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Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43717 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
And I provided you a link
I am not sure if there are two Voluntarists, or perhaps I need more cider vinegar in my life to improve my vision, or perhaps someone (not me) needs to take their meds....

but you are confusing enough in the single form. No need to double up on us.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43718 Nov 18, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
You're assuming he goes to the doctors. My guess is that he has no insurance and uses the ER for all his medical needs. Either that, or his parents still support him.
His poor social worker.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43724 Nov 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you cannot read, why you assume no one else can read?
If you cannot digest good literature, why you assume no one else does?
Either make serious comments or keep quite, why you display your idiocy to everyone on the thread?
rabbee: mental, cooties, belladonna, and ptomane is too hard, on the mental digestive tract. poisons that kill the true soul, are even more dangerous than the poisons of the flesh.

why would anyone want to eat, your mental cyanide, stryctnine, lye or wear a mental suicide vest? when you become the mental poison, that you eat. it is mental suicide/murder, to digest anything not true to G-D. and two or more opposing sides, not true to G-D - is, suicide/murder/robbery.
Voluntarist

United States

#43729 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Every time I have my yearly checkup I am questioned about my diet.
You sound like a man with an agenda. Its a bizaare agenda - the War against Doctors.
What kind of questions
Voluntarist

United States

#43730 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I must be missing it. Please enlighten us.
Diabetics, cancer patients, those on.blood pressure pills.
Voluntarist

United States

#43731 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not sure if there are two Voluntarists, or perhaps I need more cider vinegar in my life to improve my vision, or perhaps someone (not me) needs to take their meds....
but you are confusing enough in the single form. No need to double up on us.
I provided a link in regards to you agenda 21 comments.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43734 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Diabetics, cancer patients, those on.blood pressure pills.
rabbee: why do these unecessary plagues, even necessarily exist? could it be, that the same subtle beast. that pretends to care, for you. is the reason why, they even exist. so that you run to them, rather than G-D for help. knowing full well, these curses would not occur. if this world had been, true to G-D all along.

"(G-D spoke spoke all these statements, saying:

IAM HaShem*, your G-D, WHO has taken you out of the land of egypt,from the house of slavery.

you shall not recognize the g-ds of others in MY Presence. you shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of that which is in heavens above the earth or below or in the water beneath the earth. you shall not prostrate yourself to them nor worship them, for I-AM HaShem*, your G-D - a jealous G-D, WHO visits the sins of fathers upon children to the third and fourth generation, for my enemies; but WHO knows kindness for thousands [of generations] to those who love ME and observe MY commandments.)"

and if you cannot understand this Preamble, then you are not going to get the rest right. for all the other commands, are based on this inclusive principal - for thousands of generations of Adam.

and the only time, here in TheTorah. that Adam can be paired up, with any different mate. is in this second coming, when Adam has been seperated, as He And She. the only point in time, all of you and your grandmother can be replaced.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43735 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I provided a link in regards to you agenda 21 comments.
Which volunteerist is adressing me now? I dotn even know what both of them were discussing.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43736 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Diabetics, cancer patients, those on.blood pressure pills.
What about those?

I cant read internet shorthand. Please write in complete sentences, preferably one thought per sentence.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43737 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What about those?
I cant read internet shorthand. Please write in complete sentences, preferably one thought per sentence.
rabbee: can't chew gum, and read at the same time?

even if most of what is written, is not really true enough to be worth reading.
Voluntarist

United States

#43738 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What about those?
I cant read internet shorthand. Please write in complete sentences, preferably one thought per sentence.
You are deflecting.

Watch behind the green mask, a film created by a liberal about agenda 21.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43739 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
You are deflecting.
Watch behind the green mask, a film created by a liberal about agenda 21.
Actually, you are deflecting

1. I noted that on one hand you promote organic foods and deindustrialized agriculture and on the other hand are on a religious crusade against Agenda21 which actually promotes the same

2. I posted a link to the text of the Agenda21 subsections which promote those same values

3. I asked you how you can reconcile this.

I didnt ask for other people's opinion. I asked an honest question about the coherency of your OWN views.

I suspect you have never read the Agenda21 section in question.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43740 Nov 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: can't chew gum, and read at the same time?
even if most of what is written, is not really true enough to be worth reading.
I couldnt get past the part where you are supposed to drink vinegar.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43741 Nov 18, 2012
Vinegar potato chips are Da Bomb though!
Voluntarist

United States

#43742 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you are deflecting
1. I noted that on one hand you promote organic foods and deindustrialized agriculture and on the other hand are on a religious crusade against Agenda21 which actually promotes the same
2. I posted a link to the text of the Agenda21 subsections which promote those same values
3. I asked you how you can reconcile this.
I didnt ask for other people's opinion. I asked an honest question about the coherency of your OWN views.
I suspect you have never read the Agenda21 section in question.
The "local control " wording in agenda 21 is just window dressing.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43745 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
The "local control " wording in agenda 21 is just window dressing.
lol

thats lame. Even from coming from you.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43746 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
The "local control " wording in agenda 21 is just window dressing.
Go back and read this so you dont have to make stupid statements anymore

I now it will be your first time
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda...
arian man

Armenia

#43747 Nov 18, 2012
Arians will dominate in the world) And you all know that ) Even,now-they are rulling the world...) not you...
Voluntarist

United States

#43748 Nov 18, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Go back and read this so you dont have to make stupid statements anymore
I now it will be your first time
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda...
Would this be one of the things you are referring to?;
14.16. This component bridges policy and integrated resource
management. The greater the degree of community control over
the resources on which it relies, the greater will be the incentive
for economic and human resources development. At the same
time, policy instruments to reconcile long-run and short-run
requirements must be set by national Governments. The
approaches focus on fostering self-reliance and cooperation,
providing information and supporting user-based organizations.
Emphasis should be on management practices, building
agreements for changes in resource utilization, the rights and
duties associated with use of land, water and forests, the
functioning of markets, prices, and the access to information,
capital and inputs. This would require training and capacity-
building to assume greater responsibilities in sustainable
development efforts. 2/
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43749 Nov 18, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Would this be one of the things you are referring to?;
14.16. This component bridges policy and integrated resource
management. The greater the degree of community control over
the resources on which it relies, the greater will be the incentive
for economic and human resources development. At the same
time, policy instruments to reconcile long-run and short-run
requirements must be set by national Governments. The
approaches focus on fostering self-reliance and cooperation,
providing information and supporting user-based organizations.
Emphasis should be on management practices, building
agreements for changes in resource utilization, the rights and
duties associated with use of land, water and forests, the
functioning of markets, prices, and the access to information,
capital and inputs. This would require training and capacity-
building to assume greater responsibilities in sustainable
development efforts. 2/
I was referring to the numerous times in the text were the documents advocates sustainable agriculture with an emphasis of nutritional content over mass production.

Sustainable agriculture is organic or similarly lower input farming. That is what you originally posted about.

Local control, which that passage above refers to, is a byproduct of sustainable agriculture because of the economy of scale is different than in agribusiness, which in contrast involves centralized decision making from power centers far away.

Where I think you might stray is that you read local "control" as a controlling factor, rather than a byproduct. If you were better versed in what sustainable agriculture is, you would understand this better. Over all, the sustainable farming movement advocates the same values you are promoting, and Agenda21 encapsulates those values.

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