Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>I made it through your first three sentences and determined who is truly clueless. I lived in SF in the late 60s, early 70s and saw what was going on.

Sorry.

I shouldn't have called you clueless. My bad.

Now go back and read and respond.

Did this great country of ours ever do anything regrettable?

Or are we like the Pope?

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

<quoted text>
Spoken more like a divider than a uniter.
Paul is not a conservative.
Libs are supposed to be "fiscally conservative and socially tolerant."
Didn't you get the memo?

Prove it

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

<quoted text>
And the Unibomber is a good example of rugged individualism.
Now what?

No, the unibomber is an example of a CIA agent that went nuts when he realized the technocracy that is in the plans for the future.

[TJ Monk]

Rtloder wrote:

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Victory for internationalism, Cornilious got the golden hand shake when he was accepted into heaven,, previous to that of
Course there was no heaven, the purpose of that was of course to keep the bastards honest,, yes the keepers managed to keep the faith alive, with a Priestly connection to the garden, heaven is relevant,, if there was
no priestly connection to heaven surely
the choice would favour the internationalist approach, of Cornilious.

There has always been a heavenly realm. God cannot be contained in a building temple....no, he lives in the heavens. God has a heavanly orgainization of angels. He also has an earthly organization of people who serve him unitedly. Both organizations operate unitedly to vindicate gods name world wide. Ezekiel 36:7....Ezekiel 28:23

[SeasideSoon]

former res wrote:

<quoted text>
Sorry.
I shouldn't have called you clueless. My bad.
Now go back and read and respond.
Did this great country of ours ever do anything regrettable?
Or are we like the Pope?

Accepted. Yes we have, numerous times. We may disagree on which are bad, and which are badder. But in which country would you rather live?

I was thinking about your post while I was walking this morning and remembered an instructor I had a while back in a software class - he came here from India about 20 years ago, not to get anything except an opportunity to excel. During break we got into politics and he told us when he received his citizenship papers, he was asked if he wanted to register to vote. His answer - "Absolutely! Give me a Republican form."

[SeasideSoon]

Finally, someone comes out with a video explaining redistribution. I've used this example with my kids when they thought they should have the same as everyone else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>I agree with your assessment of the difference. Not sure that a marathon is a proper response to either situation. My first reaction to both marathons is that the mayor(s)(D/R) considered the economic impact to business, hotels, restaurants, etc. first.

Nytimes estimated the marathon generates 340 million dollars in spending, in part due to 20,000 runners from overseas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sports/mara...

My initial reaction was that it should be cancelled, but then I figured that post 911 NY takes it resiliency seriously. But 340 M is a large chunk of chain, and obviously that was the driving factor to keep in going.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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I'm a little surprised to hear you say that (and a little gratified).
Rudy was lionized for basically doing his job.
Biden said it best in 2008.
"But let's face it: Rudy is still hurting from Biden's withering assessment of him from the 2008 campaign, "There's only three things he mentions in a sentence —a noun, a verb, and 9/11."

Guliani was a horribly divisive mayor. A lot of people were fed up with him. Then 911 happened and to his credit, he rose to the occasion. But he then blew all of that by marketing himself as "the 911 guy" after he finished his term. Overplayed his hand.

Bloomberg, until his last reelection was very well liked, and not very divisive. Almost the opposite of Rudy. Until he strong armed a charter revision so that he could run for a 3rd term. That left a bad taste in many people. But his performance since then has been generally good, and for someone to push the notion that he is not being empathatic shows that they are radically unfamiliar with our region.

[Frijoles]

Storm notes to FR and COR

Yesterday the local traffic was terrible. We were literally being invaded by NY and NJ plates. Made me wonder what type of desperation would propell someone to drive 50-70+ miles round trip just to fill up with gas.

And if this panic is just going to get worse.

This morning I went to my local park and discovered its parking lot was being used as a staging area for the utilities. I counted no less that 100 bucket trucks from Quebec, and probably 50 Tree removal trucks. I would hope they were all sleeping off their shift, if not - there is no excuse for not fixing the power by the end of the day for the entire southwest CT.

I also hope for the sake of Canada that there are no power outages in Quebec - as all their personal appears to be here.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, I find it humorous that Obama is stating that all the red tape (think government) is going to be set aside to deal with this calamity.

Red tape is just a political codeword - fodder for people like you so you can relax.

Regulation is generally acceptable to most people, as long as they dont have to follow it themselves.

Responses to situations tend to be triaged. Right now we are in the emergency stage. Most governments have emergency powers within their executive branch that allow some type of suspension of normal regulation for emergencies. We went through with this after Irene - its not a new concept. Once things stabilize, and the emergency phase is over then "red tape" i,e, regulation will resume, as it is intended to function. None of this is really news or anything unique to any chief government executive.

[Rtloder]

TJ Monk wrote:

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There has always been a heavenly realm. God cannot be contained in a building temple....no, he lives in the heavens. God has a heavanly orgainization of angels. He also has an earthly organization of people who serve him unitedly. Both organizations operate unitedly to vindicate gods name world wide. Ezekiel 36:7....Ezekiel 28:23

(p) Ezekiel was the son of man, Who had a
Special Message of Hope, so naturally heaven got a mention, but then it was not taken up, because Our Lord decreed it so.
If the Jews had access to the Tree of Life
they would be God 1000 times over every single day. Or so I believe.
No prophet, that the Jews accepted ever
sanctioned any other adjudication other
than the Sadducees. I don't say who does or does not gain acceptance into heaven, but it's not a concept associated to inclusion in the Old Testament except as unofficial.
I don't think its a political relevance as this discussion would indicate, although enjoyable, my perspective is totally metaphysical, and I invite no participation except on that level. And as of now not disclosed.
I thought response would be Elijah and Elisha.

[SeasideSoon]

former res wrote:

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If you can remember it, you weren't really there!
:))
Prove it.

LOL. I worked right near the Haight-Ashbury area - stoned city. Yup, getting up every day, going to work, dealing with the barefoot gal who couldn't get to work on time or missed work altogether because her grandmother died,(every few weeks). I even voted for Bobby in the California primary.

I'm one of the four or five people in the country that never tried anything, so I have no empathy for Clinton who claims he never inhaled.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Red tape is just a political codeword - fodder for people like you so you can relax.
Regulation is generally acceptable to most people, as long as they dont have to follow it themselves.
Responses to situations tend to be triaged. Right now we are in the emergency stage. Most governments have emergency powers within their executive branch that allow some type of suspension of normal regulation for emergencies. We went through with this after Irene - its not a new concept. Once things stabilize, and the emergency phase is over then "red tape" i,e, regulation will resume, as it is intended to function. None of this is really news or anything unique to any chief government executive.

I've discovered that I can have very heated discussions with people about politics and religion and part friends. I simply refrain from phrasing my argument with 'you'.:)

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Nytimes estimated the marathon generates 340 million dollars in spending, in part due to 20,000 runners from overseas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sports/mara...
My initial reaction was that it should be cancelled, but then I figured that post 911 NY takes it resiliency seriously. But 340 M is a large chunk of chain, and obviously that was the driving factor to keep in going.

Recall my statement about dead people still floating around. It can wait. What I don't understand is why cancel it - it could've sensibly been postponed without causing the ruckus - the $$ will still be there, and hopefully all the bodies buried. I don't think that's an unreasonable solution.

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

Storm notes to FR and COR
Yesterday the local traffic was terrible. We were literally being invaded by NY and NJ plates. Made me wonder what type of desperation would propell someone to drive 50-70+ miles round trip just to fill up with gas.
And if this panic is just going to get worse.
This morning I went to my local park and discovered its parking lot was being used as a staging area for the utilities. I counted no less that 100 bucket trucks from Quebec, and probably 50 Tree removal trucks. I would hope they were all sleeping off their shift, if not - there is no excuse for not fixing the power by the end of the day for the entire southwest CT.
I also hope for the sake of Canada that there are no power outages in Quebec - as all their personal appears to be here.

Saturday night and still no power :-(. Latest estimate from CL&P is Tues, 11:00pm

To add insult to injury, had to wait in line for almost an hour to get gas.

And now I hear a Nor' Eastern is heading this way for mid week.

Suffice it to say, I'm a little cranky right now.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Saturday night and still no power :-(. Latest estimate from CL&P is Tues, 11:00pm
To add insult to injury, had to wait in line for almost an hour to get gas.
And now I hear a Nor' Eastern is heading this way for mid week.
Suffice it to say, I'm a little cranky right now.

I was 4th in line at station across from Newfield this morning.

Family in Norwalk got power tonite.

[SeasideSoon]

former res wrote:

<quoted text>
If you can remember it, you weren't really there!
:))
Prove it.

So...what do you know about "fish and poi"??

[TJ Monk]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Saturday night and still no power :-(. Latest estimate from CL&P is Tues, 11:00pm
To add insult to injury, had to wait in line for almost an hour to get gas.
And now I hear a Nor' Eastern is heading this way for mid week.
Suffice it to say, I'm a little cranky right now.

There is no such thing as Messianic Jews...doesn't exsist. The Law Code is over in place of the New Covanent....LOVE. You arenot persecuted, you jokers have American weapons....your GOD is AMERICA......Jews shouldnot have a country.....Palastinians have been on the land LONGER than Jews.

[Frijoles]

You still havent learn to read other posts yet before you open your flapper, have you?

[Frijoles]

That was directed at TJMonk