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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#42590 Oct 31, 2012
Eric wrote:
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I don't know what you are talking about. You said that the legislature could only act within the state constitution. Your state constitution gives the CT General Assembly unlimited legislative power with the exception of a few prohibition in the declaration of rights.
We live in a society where the people have instituted laws. The people of CT have decided that their legislature should have very few restrictions. You live in CT; The CT Constitution is applicable to you. You, yourself, set forth the parameters under which the CT legislature operates--that they must comply with the state constitution. Well, it doesn't take much in CT for the General Assembly to comply with the state constitution.
Factually what is Connecticut and what facts are relied upon that the laws are applicable to me?
Voluntarist

United States

#42591 Oct 31, 2012
former res wrote:
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"The Daily Telegraph is a daily morning broadsheet conservative-leaning newspaper distributed throughout the United Kingdom and internationally."
I don't really get the point. We certainly knew they had no video feed of any kind. They were clearly waiting on pins and needles for information and status updates. Wouldn't you too be anxious waiting to hear what was happening?
Oh but that was the initial claim, the situation room photo.
Clinton Recounts Osama Bin Laden's Death
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "gave a play-by-play account of
the day Bin Laden was killed" in a speech at the U.S. Naval
Academy and recalled how none of the officials in the room
watching the operation, including President Obama, "could
breathe for 30-35 minutes," ABC News reports.
former res

Broomall, PA

#42592 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Oh but that was the initial claim, the situation room photo.
Clinton Recounts Osama Bin Laden's Death
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "gave a play-by-play account of
the day Bin Laden was killed" in a speech at the U.S. Naval
Academy and recalled how none of the officials in the room
watching the operation, including President Obama, "could
breathe for 30-35 minutes," ABC News reports.
You must not take everything so literally.

How will Romney pay for his $5 trillion tax cut. I'm much more interested in that fiction.
former res

Broomall, PA

#42593 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh but that was the initial claim, the situation room photo.
Clinton Recounts Osama Bin Laden's Death
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "gave a play-by-play account of
the day Bin Laden was killed" in a speech at the U.S. Naval
Academy and recalled how none of the officials in the room
watching the operation, including President Obama, "could
breathe for 30-35 minutes," ABC News reports.
Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/01/the-...
Voluntarist

United States

#42594 Oct 31, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/01/the-...
Top CIA director admits that there was no footage yet you are quoting inferior underlinks.
Eric

Lemont, IL

#42595 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Factually what is Connecticut and what facts are relied upon that the laws are applicable to me?
I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.
Frijoles

Portland, CT

#42596 Oct 31, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
you can't possibly make this stuff up!
is he back judging horse shows?
I know, that perhaps was the funniest quote I have read in a while. Better than "binders full of woman.."

Its like Tony Hayward criticizing an oil spill recovery operation for being too agressive.

We'll give Seaside a chance to retract her reference....

Brown is now doing talk radio in Denver. I think that quote was lifted from his normal daily babble.
Frijoles

Portland, CT

#42597 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Great and what facts do you rely on that the Constitution as amended in 1818 is it?, is applicable to me?
If you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.
former res

Broomall, PA

#42598 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Top CIA director admits that there was no footage yet you are quoting inferior underlinks.
Doesn't sound like direct footage but more of link via a drone.

From what I remember at the time, it wasn't a clear picture of what was happening at all.

They were obviously watching something but mostly listening for updates.

This was my understanding and seems to be consistent with accounts.
Frijoles

Portland, CT

#42599 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Factually what is Connecticut and what facts are relied upon that the laws are applicable to me?
Again, if you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.
Frijoles

Portland, CT

#42600 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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That is precisely my point, if you are forcing an agreement there is no choice, the gun is pointed to my head to make a false choice.
I am not forcing an "argument"- I am forcing reality on you, courtesy of the US and CT constitutions

You have too choices

1)govt by distance
2) govt by local

Make your choice.

I'll take govt by local.
Frijoles

Portland, CT

#42601 Oct 31, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.
It was a typical response of a fundamentalist when cornered (in this case by himself). Change the goal posts and hope noone notices.
Voluntarist

United States

#42602 Oct 31, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.
Actually no, you stated that it is applicable I am asking you for the facts.
Voluntarist

United States

#42603 Oct 31, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.
What do you mean by legal politics? I am asking for facts not politics.
Voluntarist

United States

#42604 Oct 31, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't sound like direct footage but more of link via a drone.
From what I remember at the time, it wasn't a clear picture of what was happening at all.
They were obviously watching something but mostly listening for updates.
This was my understanding and seems to be consistent with accounts.
Actually if you look close enough it appears to be a photo shopped photo.
Voluntarist

United States

#42605 Oct 31, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not forcing an "argument"- I am forcing reality on you, courtesy of the US and CT constitutions
You have too choices
1)govt by distance
2) govt by local
Make your choice.
I'll take govt by local.
And precisely what or who is going to force me to agree to be politically ruled?
Voluntarist

United States

#42606 Oct 31, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a typical response of a fundamentalist when cornered (in this case by himself). Change the goal posts and hope noone notices.
I don't stick by the constitution I never signed the document I am merely having a discussion about governmental framework.
John Preacher

Europe

#42607 Oct 31, 2012
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Eric

Lisle, IL

#42608 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Actually no, you stated that it is applicable I am asking you for the facts.
Please don't make me go back and make you eat your words.
Eric

Lisle, IL

#42609 Oct 31, 2012
Voluntarist
United States
Reply ยป
|#42541 22 hrs ago

Eric wrote:
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It's not hard to understand at all. The people of the US gave their federal government limited power reserving all other governmental power to the states and themselves. That's called the 10th Amendment. CT used that reserved power to offer social services. CT did not need for Congress to grant them the power. The people reserved that power to the states, including CT.

You replied
But Connecticut can only do what is expressed in the Constitution, and can't do what is expressly prohibited.

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And my follow up was that if they can do what's in the constitution, and the people of CT have given the General Assembly in the constitution extremely broad powers, then the General Assembly can do just about anything, with the exception of the few prohibitions in Article One.

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