Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Again, I dont know what woods you live in, but in our area the impacts in infrastructure and jobs because of the ARRA is obvious and apparent. Maybe you should move to a better area.

Note - it wasn't me complaining about roads and bridges. We have enough, thank you.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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No way. I have no intent on dying.

Go into the light! It's warm and good in the light...

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Listen retard, the Constitution is the foundation for Government, any power not granted is not authorized.

We aren't slaves to the Constitution.

Despite what Scalia says, it's a living document that exists to serve our needs, not vice versa.

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Actually it is the ruler that demanded payment by the half shekel, that is why JC was upset, government involved once again.

frij

is this true?

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>...One tidbit: more than twice as many Americans have been killed in Afghanistan during Obama four years than Bush eight years.

You make no sense.

Look at troop levels.

http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/22/c...

Did you forget about the surge?

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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The Benghazi political furor reminds me a lot of birtherism for its lack of proper perspective, and for the willful ignorance of any fact to the contrary of the issue.
As far as Afghanistan goes, might us remind you that this was not Obamas war in the first place? And who bungled it by invading a second country for, in retrospect, no valid reason?

So many points, so little time.

Obama campaigned on refocusing on Afghanistan, and if you think we're out of Iraq..
Then when he got his chance to play president, his resume of community organizer skills failed him completely.

I believe in social justice. I don't believe in extorting money from someone else to support the causes I believe in. Let everybody marry whoever they want - gay or straight - it doesn't always work out, sometimes it does - their problem. Not my problem - unless they have or adopt kids and we end up supporting them.

As for Benghazi, if you are privy to any actual 'facts', please share. Believe me, this one isn't going away despite attempts at comparing it with birthers. Remember, nobody got killed over a birth certificate.

This one is going to end up much worse than fast'n'furious. Start connecting the dots.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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We aren't slaves to the Constitution.
Despite what Scalia says, it's a living document that exists to serve our needs, not vice versa.

Indeed the constitution is subservient to the people, it is a declaration of some of the things the people deem as rights.
But it is also THE FOUNDATION of government.
The constitution of no authority is a good read, I didn't sign it and there is no evidence that it is applicable, of course there is no facts that prove that there are citizens and states either.

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Note - it wasn't me complaining about roads and bridges. We have enough, thank you.

Wrong again, sweetie!

"(Reuters)- Long famous for its top-notch highways and passion for cars, the United States is letting bridges rust as traffic chokes overburdened roads, threatening a pillar of its economic strength...

....The United States has fallen sharply in the World Economic Forum's ranking of national infrastructure systems. In the forum's 2007-2008 report, American infrastructure was ranked 6th best in the world.

The 2011-2012 report due in September will show America at No. 16, with South Korea overtaking the United States during the last year, according to a copy of the rankings obtained by Reuters.

The quality of American roads is about on par with those of Malaysia. They lag Hong Kong, whose infrastructure tops the overall list..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/uk-...

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Indeed the constitution is subservient to the people, it is a declaration of some of the things the people deem as rights.
But it is also THE FOUNDATION of government.
The constitution of no authority is a good read, I didn't sign it and there is no evidence that it is applicable, of course there is no facts that prove that there are citizens and states either.

"But it is also THE FOUNDATION of government."

More like the reflection of our thoughts and values at the time.

It isn't holy scripture.

Conditions are fluid.

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>So many points, so little time.
Obama campaigned on refocusing on Afghanistan, and if you think we're out of Iraq..
Then when he got his chance to play president, his resume of community organizer skills failed him completely.
I believe in social justice. I don't believe in extorting money from someone else to support the causes I believe in. Let everybody marry whoever they want - gay or straight - it doesn't always work out, sometimes it does - their problem. Not my problem - unless they have or adopt kids and we end up supporting them.
As for Benghazi, if you are privy to any actual 'facts', please share. Believe me, this one isn't going away despite attempts at comparing it with birthers. Remember, nobody got killed over a birth certificate.
This one is going to end up much worse than fast'n'furious. Start connecting the dots.

" I don't believe in extorting money from someone else to support the causes I believe in."

Really?

Does this apply to military spending? Defense and support of Israel?

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Note - it wasn't me complaining about roads and bridges. We have enough, thank you.

ARRA was used for many other projects other than roads and bridges. At least here in the northeast. Down where you are I think you guys were not as creative or welcoming. Again, you have my sympathies.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Actually you are 100% wrong, I do not worship the Constitution I merely use it to point out contradictions in government because at the end of the day it is this;
Government is just a bunch of men and women providing a service at the end of the barrel of a gun, if they were so interested in protecting your rights they wouldn't be the first ones to take them away.
Government has no consensual players, at least in the private sector you can pick and choose the services that you deem fit for your needs.
p.s. if you knew anything you would know that public schooling is in the Connecticut constitution.
But there are no citizens there are know states and there is no government, just men and women everything else is a fiction.

and where in the CT Constitution is snow removal, leaf pickup, recycling and garbage, fire safety, or ems?

Do have a shrine to your Constitution? Do you leave fruit?

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>So many points, so little time.
Obama campaigned on refocusing on Afghanistan, and if you think we're out of Iraq..
Then when he got his chance to play president, his resume of community organizer skills failed him completely.
I believe in social justice. I don't believe in extorting money from someone else to support the causes I believe in. Let everybody marry whoever they want - gay or straight - it doesn't always work out, sometimes it does - their problem. Not my problem - unless they have or adopt kids and we end up supporting them.
As for Benghazi, if you are privy to any actual 'facts', please share. Believe me, this one isn't going away despite attempts at comparing it with birthers. Remember, nobody got killed over a birth certificate.
This one is going to end up much worse than fast'n'furious. Start connecting the dots.

Like I said, birtherism.

Lets face it - you hate Obama. Now that we got that over with....

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Wrong again, sweetie!
"(Reuters)- Long famous for its top-notch highways and passion for cars, the United States is letting bridges rust as traffic chokes overburdened roads, threatening a pillar of its economic strength...
....The United States has fallen sharply in the World Economic Forum's ranking of national infrastructure systems. In the forum's 2007-2008 report, American infrastructure was ranked 6th best in the world.
The 2011-2012 report due in September will show America at No. 16, with South Korea overtaking the United States during the last year, according to a copy of the rankings obtained by Reuters.
The quality of American roads is about on par with those of Malaysia. They lag Hong Kong, whose infrastructure tops the overall list..."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/uk-...

Dont forget that CT is home to 2 of the most spectacular bridge failures in American history - both over the I95 corridor

I95 Mianus Bridge in the 80s - of course you remember that - you were probably living 1 mile away

Bridgeport I95 Bridge - 2002 or 2003 - though that failure was hastened by a burning truck if I recollect

[Rtloder]

Frijoles wrote:

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The Benghazi political furor reminds me a lot of birtherism for its lack of proper perspective, and for the willful ignorance of any fact to the contrary of the issue.
As far as Afghanistan goes, might us remind you that this was not Obamas war in the first place? And who bungled it by invading a second country for, in retrospect, no valid reason?

People including him, Bush, used to say God made him do it, now Obama after paying the enemy not to attack, has to support the terrorism of the enemy to try
to get Saddam Hussein back again.
Now other people who have never been
to the middle east are saying, it was God that made him do it.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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"But it is also THE FOUNDATION of government."
More like the reflection of our thoughts and values at the time.
It isn't holy scripture.
Conditions are fluid.

False

Hierarchy of law.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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frij
is this true?

Dunno - the jesus thing is that other religion, not mine

:)

[Voluntarist]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>So many points, so little time.
Obama campaigned on refocusing on Afghanistan, and if you think we're out of Iraq..
Then when he got his chance to play president, his resume of community organizer skills failed him completely.
I believe in social justice. I don't believe in extorting money from someone else to support the causes I believe in. Let everybody marry whoever they want - gay or straight - it doesn't always work out, sometimes it does - their problem. Not my problem - unless they have or adopt kids and we end up supporting them.
As for Benghazi, if you are privy to any actual 'facts', please share. Believe me, this one isn't going away despite attempts at comparing it with birthers. Remember, nobody got killed over a birth certificate.
This one is going to end up much worse than fast'n'furious. Start connecting the dots.

Great!
So I don't have to pay for your "war on terror "?

[Frijoles]

Former -

How goes the storm? So far we have gotten the winds - will probably loose power at some point. Our governor told the cities to implement Cat 4 disaster plans. They are evacuating everything below Post Road in a lot of places, inc Bridgeport.(No worries here - I am well above).

BTW I succumbed to the hype yesterday and bought another pack of AA batteries. So much for a battery shortage - at the podunk supermarket there were about a dozen displays of them - all selling well with more in store. I left thinking the storm was just a conspiracy by Energizer to sell stock.(Now looking outside - I am not so sure about that)

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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False
Hierarchy of law.

How can you just ignore the legal debate within between the literalists and everyone else? Denial is not an acceptable strategy - you would be laughed out of a law school classroom.