Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Frijoles wrote:

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Come now. Obama sponsored the attack on the WTC, among other things, killing 5000 people. If that does instantly catapult him into the media, I am not sure what else would.
Maybe killing 10,000 people?

rabbee: well so did everyone else, not true to G-D here in TheTorah help orchastrate this. why else would G-D of commanded hasatan, or baal hamolech to have this done? i blame everyone on earth, not true to G-D for all pestilence, plague and famine.

lies only give support, for all murderers and all mayhem. even your school systems, not true to G-D here in TheTorah are all to blame. how horrible! is teaching, your children how to lie. as your lying government, would have them do against G-D.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Frijoles wrote:

LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION
Osama not Obama
Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me
:)

rabbee: why when according to G-D, both are just as guilty. even before obama, was president. who both say and do, everything wicked and evil, in TheEyes of G-D.

for G-D is responsible for what, all the righteous and non-righteous actually do. but is not in charge, of what we think or say about it.

and G-D is going to finish, giving TheWhole Torah. whether you mentally all, choose to be here in IT or not. and then G-D is going to give, TheWhole Story of Creation again, beguinning with Parashas Noach. because this whole world and your grandmother, has again failed to believe in G-D.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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You're in good company. Schieffer made the same mistake during the third debate.

I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said Barak Obama 2012. It was written entirely in Hebrew. Talk about a select audience.

On the same note, there was an article in Slate today about how the GOP superpacs have speant millions of dollars in Florida on billboards and other things vilifying Obama reagrding Jewish issues. The article noted that by all polling, the media blitz was a huge waste of money as it has not moved the vote any significant amount. Last poll had Florida Jews 75% Obama 25% Romney I think.

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

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I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said Barak Obama 2012. It was written entirely in Hebrew. Talk about a select audience.
On the same note, there was an article in Slate today about how the GOP superpacs have speant millions of dollars in Florida on billboards and other things vilifying Obama reagrding Jewish issues. The article noted that by all polling, the media blitz was a huge waste of money as it has not moved the vote any significant amount. Last poll had Florida Jews 75% Obama 25% Romney I think.

Those types of adds only work on the uneducated/uninformed. Hardly the demographics they were going for.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Those types of adds only work on the uneducated/uninformed. Hardly the demographics they were going for.

On the other hand, our "friend" Sheldon Adelson is creating mischief in Israel as well.

A while back he funded a free daily newspaper - Hayom - "the day" I havent seen it but I imagine it has to be the equivalent of Fox -and it may be putting the Jerusalem Post out of business. sad.

[Frijoles]

oops - it was Maariv, not the Jerusalem Post that is in trouble

http://seattletimes.com/text/2019256212.html

Iconic Israeli newspaper on the verge of collapse

......"We can't compete with a machine that prints money and hands out papers for free," said Avi Ashkenazi, Maariv's veteran crime correspondent. "We are the first ones to enter the slaughterhouse but we likely won't be the last. It's only a matter of time."

Israel Hayom's success has raised questions about whether a wealthy foreigner has bought power and influence on behalf of the prime minister. Adelson also has contributed $30 million to super PACs supporting Republican candidates and has attended major fundraising events for U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney.....

[Frijoles]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/1...

Colin Powell announced this morning he will again vote for President Obama, handing the president a rare endorsement from across the aisle and taking a few shots at Mitt Romney in the process.

"I’m not quite sure which Governor Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy," the former secretary of state said on CBS's This Morning. "I don’t sense he’s thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have. He gets advice from his campaign staff that he then has to modify as he goes along."

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.
Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.
What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.

The other side was vehemently against Hillary-Care too.

Remember the scary commercials?

That wasn't even for universal healthcare per se.

I don't acually recall the details.

I'm sure Hillary has blocked it out too.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION
Osama not Obama
Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me
:)

Bob Shiefer made the same mistake the other night.

I think it was him

Seems to happen a lot.

[former res]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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You're in good company. Schieffer made the same mistake during the third debate.

I should have read ahead.

Is there an echo in here?

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said Barak Obama 2012. It was written entirely in Hebrew. Talk about a select audience.
On the same note, there was an article in Slate today about how the GOP superpacs have speant millions of dollars in Florida on billboards and other things vilifying Obama reagrding Jewish issues. The article noted that by all polling, the media blitz was a huge waste of money as it has not moved the vote any significant amount. Last poll had Florida Jews 75% Obama 25% Romney I think.

Though of course that won't stop Romney and his ilk from pandering their asses off any chance they get.

If I were a chosen person, I'd be downright insulted by it all!

;)

[former res]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Those types of adds only work on the uneducated/uninformed. Hardly the demographics they were going for.

Blatant pandering by CoR!

:))

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Though of course that won't stop Romney and his ilk from pandering their asses off any chance they get.
If I were a chosen person, I'd be downright insulted by it all!
;)

To be honest (as if I need a reason to dislike Romny) I am insulted by the crudeness.

The last election was the first election in memory where Republicans started pandering for a Jewish vote. Up to then, although Jews were predominately Democrats, the notion of Israel was strongly bipartisan. Since then, they have tried to make it a wedge issue. I guess it is a sign of recognition that Jews vote.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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The other side was vehemently against Hillary-Care too.
Remember the scary commercials?
That wasn't even for universal healthcare per se.
I don't acually recall the details.
I'm sure Hillary has blocked it out too.

Oh I remember.

But Obama-care was patterned after a bipartisan consensus of ideas that were originally republican, such as the exchanges. It suddenly became radioactive after Obama took office.

[Cult of Reason]

former res wrote:

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Blatant pandering by CoR!
:))

Come on. We're talking about retired Jews in Florida. What category would you put them in ;-)

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Come on. We're talking about retired Jews in Florida. What category would you put them in ;-)

Remember , it was the Jewish grandmas who decided the 2000 election by (erroneously??) voting for Pat Buchanan!!!(hanging chad issue)

True story.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Remember , it was the Jewish grandmas who decided the 2000 election by (erroneously??) voting for Pat Buchanan!!!(hanging chad issue)
True story.

OMG

is there a gun in the house?

i do remember that

[former res]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Come on. We're talking about retired Jews in Florida. What category would you put them in ;-)

They're saying now it all may come down to 4 counties in Ohio.

Our system sucks but it's the best one there is.

Who said that? Someone famous. I paraphrase of course.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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OMG
is there a gun in the house?
i do remember that

even worse, remember Ralph Nader?

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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They're saying now it all may come down to 4 counties in Ohio.
Our system sucks but it's the best one there is.
Who said that? Someone famous. I paraphrase of course.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...

Oct. 24: In Polls, Romney’s Momentum Seems to Have Stopped

"....Take Wednesday’s national tracking polls, for instance.(There are now eight of them published each day.) Mr. Romney gained ground in just one of the polls, an online poll conducted for Reuters by the polling organization Ipsos. He lost ground in five others, with President Obama improving his standing instead in those surveys. On average, Mr. Obama gained about one point between the eight polls.

This is the closest that we’ve come in a week or so to one candidate clearly having “won” the day in the tracking polls — and it was Mr. Obama...."