Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

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Oct 24, 2012
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But what's worse? Living in a battleground state where your vote can make a difference, or living in a state like CT where you traditionally already know where the electoral votes are heading?
I have given that issue thought before. My conclusion is that I would prefer the status quo, because at least we dont have to worry as much about the loonies getting into power statewide or even locally.
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(and hopefully Linda was just an outlier.)
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former res wrote:
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The people of MA voted for it and by all reports (and polls) are very happy with it.
Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

“No Allah: know peace”

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Yes that is the easiest way out, in which you do not have to do any thing.
You call some thing as myth and that is end of the matter.
We can also say all your posts and logic is myth and that is the end of discussion!!
And that is the best way to deal with people like you.
We call the Koran a silly myth for the simple reason that it IS a silly myth. That fact is easily demonstrable to anyone and everyone who is wiling to see the truth. For example:

12:4 In spite of Joseph's dream, there are not eleven planets in the Solar System.

7:124 The Ancient Egyptians never used crucifixion as a punishment.

7:80 - 81 Every species of mammal, and many other species as well, have been documented as having some members that engage in homosexual behavior.

13:2 is wrong, the Sun does not orbit the Earth

15:19 No matter what the koran says, the Earth is not flat. No lied.

18:86 The Sun does not set in a muddy pond.

51:49 No, NOT all things are created in pairs. Many bacteria, protists, fungi, and plants reproduce asexually.

So, for those with eyes to see, it is clear that the koran was only a collection of poems, made up by Mo all on his own, without the aid of any Deity.

“No Allah: know peace”

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Jehovah is the only true God.
There is no God named Jehovah, never has been.
former res

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But what's worse? Living in a battleground state where your vote can make a difference, or living in a state like CT where you traditionally already know where the electoral votes are heading?
That's true and I always thought visiting NH duruing their primary could be kind of exciting.

The tv commercails would suck though.
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Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
In your analogy, who is the sheep?

Are those the folks who don't want to contribute towards their healthcare costs?

(Are they related to the Teabaggers carrying the signs that said "Keep Your Gov't Hands off my Medicare"?)

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And from where you "derived" this word Jehovah? I do not think that it is available in any of the Original Scripture Book!!
How can you issue such a blank check for a name that has no Scriptural Base?
Islamic Radicals are destroying this world. Soon the United Nations will wipe out Radical Islamists for their extreme views and actions. Sensless TOOLS will be done away with by the Christian right in America. Islam will cease to exsist. TOOL

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MESSIANIC Jews are not persecuted in Israel....they have no right to the land. Palastinians were there longer than any Jew....2000 years is a long time to be away from home.....GO AWAY. Palastinians own Israel.
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Islamic Radicals are destroying this world. Soon the United Nations will wipe out Radical Islamists for their extreme views and actions. Sensless TOOLS will be done away with by the Christian right in America. Islam will cease to exsist. TOOL
I doubt if UN will be able to wipe out any radicals. UN has not been able to do anything in the world so far.

What we like is real teachings of Islam be propagated into the world and people be aware of it.

Radicals and Extremists and Terrorists come up when there is injustice and oppression and corruption and common people have no recourse to get their rights and justice.

If rule of law, justice and equity is maintained, these extremists and terrorists would not get any public support.

And then linking these extremists with Islam is the work of Media which use these cases to malign Islam and 1.5 Billion Muslims. This compounds the issue.
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Mohammad , the Ideal Prophet By SYED SULAIMAN NADWI (Abridged) Part- 28

Lecture 4. The Perfectness of the Holy Prophet’s Life

Holy Prophet as Role Model for All Muslims all over the world:

It was this spirit which made the holy Prophet’s companions, their disciples and then those who came after them, the scholars of the Prophet’s traditions, the Muslim historians and biographers to look for each and every of his sayings, his actions and movements and record them for the coming generations so that every Muslim could follow him to the best of his capacity.

This fact makes it quite clear that in their minds the life of the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) was a perfect and ideal life that was meant to be followed in all its details. The standard of perfection, in their sight, was the degree to which
one followed the holy Prophet’s example.

In Islam, the holy Prophet’s life is the supreme model for a Muslim. Therefore, all its aspects should be clearly known to everybody, and so they are. No link is missing. No event of his life is shrouded in mystery. Every thing is as clear as a mirror, preserved for ever in the books of history. That is the evidence that helps
one to believe in an ideal, innocent and perfect life which is as clear as daylight.

Only such a life can serve as a model for all mankind.

Islamic and Other world civilizations:

This world has produced great civilizations such as those of Babylon, Assyria,
India, China, Egypt, Greece and Rome. Great ethical systems were evolved. Rules for a civilized and polite behaviour were set.

Etiquettes and conventions were established for all kinds of human activities such as sitting, standing, eating and drinking, clothing, visiting people, sleeping, marriages, funerals, meeting, inviting, saluting, greeting, bathing and cleansing, offering congratulations, offering condolences and conducting burials etc.

It took centuries to establish the principles of these ancient civilizations, yet they could not stand the challenge of time. Centuries old conventions crumbled in no time. All those great civilizations are now found only in history books.

Whereas the Islamic civilization evolved and established in just a few years. And after a passage of over 1400 years it is there, constant and unchanged, present in hundreds of nations spread all over the world. The basic reason is that it riginates from one source—the life of Prophet

Muhammad (Peace be upon him). This faultless and noble way of life was
reflected in the lives of his worthy companions and then in those of their
dedicated disciples and thus it became the established way of life of the world of
Islam. The holy Prophet’s life was the centre around which revolved the lives of
his companions. The later generations have expanded the circle.

Present day Muslims and Prophet’s life:

Although the present day Muslims are at quite a distance from the centre of that circle, they are tracing the same path. The holy Prophet’s way of life became the way of life of his immediate followers and then that of the entire Muslim world through the ages.

Today that picture is with us in its entirety, intact and complete. In today’s Africa or India if a tribe is converted to Christianity, it gets its religion from the Bible but is taught the ways and culture of Europe. But when a wild tribe of remote Africa converts to Islam, it gets its faith and a complete way of life from the same single source.

When a person enters Islam, the complete picture of the life of the Prophet of Islam comes before him, guiding him through various human conditions and needs. This living picture becomes a reflection of the whole life of a Muslim.

And since no human life is available in such a complete and comprehensive form, the Prophet of Islam is the only ideal and perfect model following whose example the whole mankind can live a pure, decent and complete life.

May Allah shower His best Blessings on him.
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Radicals and Extremists and Terrorists come up when there is injustice and oppression and corruption and common people have no recourse to get their rights and justice.
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You know, that theory has been debunked. There have been several studies that noted that terrorists are equally likely, if not more likely, to come from middle class backgrounds.
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What we like is real teachings of Islam be propagated into the world and people be aware of it.
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There is a little girl from Pakistan who would disagree with you on that.
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And then linking these extremists with Islam is the work of Media which use these cases to malign Islam and 1.5 Billion Muslims. This compounds the issue.
I guess you would give no credit for those terrorists that publically lay claim to their actions in the name of Islam. Such as OBL, and all the ones that release jihad videos. The Media does not have to do this work, the Muslims do it for them.
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MESSIANIC Jews are not persecuted in Israel....they have no right to the land. Palastinians were there longer than any Jew....2000 years is a long time to be away from home.....GO AWAY. Palastinians own Israel.
First off, its Palestinians, not Palastinians.

Secondly, you ignore the Palestinian Jews that have always been there. As well as the Jews that were expelled from Arab lands post 1948.

Thirdly, you are far from home yourself. What are you doing in Canada? What did you do with the native-Americans who used to live in what you now claim as your neighborhood? What right do you have to be living on other people's land?
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The media projects the Multi time magnified images of the Extremists like OBL, the person whom no one even knew became the Top Most world terrorists overnight because of Media.

And he is not alone, they make stars of the people with little following and into super personalities.

The media want to have their roles to play to malign Islam and Muslims and they are looking for such people.

I have seen the same thing in India where every now and then Media come out with Banner Headlines as such and such Super Terrorist has been captured and arrested..and after three or four days no one even remembers their name, what happened to them and how many of them were actually convicted.

The Police and Security Services only want Blank checks to take into custody and put behind bars as many number os persons and for how many days, they want to kill and / or keep behind bars any number of people for indefinite period,

The Prime example is GITMO, where hardly anyone is charged and convicted of any crime, but the whole World Media agrees that such Terrorists must remain confined.

They have Convicted them as Terrorists without any due process of law.

And this is going on for many years right in front of our very eyes and no one feels any thing about it.

It is media which "creates" these Super Terrorists in most of the cases.
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The people of MA voted for it and by all reports (and polls) are very happy with it.
Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.

Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.

What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.
Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.
What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.
rabbee: i would prefer, we all be in GanEden. where healcare and peace is all, taken care of by command of G-D. and where pestilence, plague, and famine are not sent, so the devil can sell you his healthcare and insurance progroms.

but all long as you all, do not really believe in G-D here in TheTorah. you are going to have to be, codependant on the devils unfair and unjust systems.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i would prefer, we all be in GanEden. where healcare and peace is all, taken care of by command of G-D. and where pestilence, plague, and famine are not sent, so the devil can sell you his healthcare and insurance progroms.
but all long as you all, do not really believe in G-D here in TheTorah. you are going to have to be, codependant on the devils unfair and unjust systems.
Torah also says you should look out for your neighbor

at least my torah does
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MUQ wrote:
The media projects the Multi time magnified images of the Extremists like OBL, the person whom no one even knew became the Top Most world terrorists overnight because of Media.
And he is not alone, they make stars of the people with little following and into super personalities.
The media want to have their roles to play to malign Islam and Muslims and they are looking for such people.
I have seen the same thing in India where every now and then Media come out with Banner Headlines as such and such Super Terrorist has been captured and arrested..and after three or four days no one even remembers their name, what happened to them and how many of them were actually convicted.
The Police and Security Services only want Blank checks to take into custody and put behind bars as many number os persons and for how many days, they want to kill and / or keep behind bars any number of people for indefinite period,
The Prime example is GITMO, where hardly anyone is charged and convicted of any crime, but the whole World Media agrees that such Terrorists must remain confined.
They have Convicted them as Terrorists without any due process of law.
And this is going on for many years right in front of our very eyes and no one feels any thing about it.
It is media which "creates" these Super Terrorists in most of the cases.
Come now. Obama sponsored the attack on the WTC, among other things, killing 5000 people. If that does instantly catapult him into the media, I am not sure what else would.

Maybe killing 10,000 people?

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