Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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former res

Broomall, PA

#41906 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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What if you hate butterflies? Will it still be heaven?
I'm allergic to the little winged rats.(or is that bats?..)
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41907 Oct 14, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm allergic to the little winged rats.(or is that bats?..)
Then arent you in luck...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nose_syndr...

White-nose syndrome (WNS) is a poorly understood disease associated with the deaths of at least 5.7 million to 6.7 million North American bats.[

(except,,,ummm,,,what about those mosquito populations???)
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41908 Oct 14, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm allergic to the little winged rats.(or is that bats?..)
Did you enjoy my videos?

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/judaism/T...
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41909 Oct 14, 2012
MAAT wrote:
pg 1908
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Sea. Normally 4 security guys would be the max (apart from local suport), when traveling rather anonymously in any country.
And the point would be whether a recommendation was put forward or a high priority demand.
Usually embassies speak in terms of recommendations.
The point is also, that if the are out to get you with heavy material, casualties cannot be avoided.
From what was testified, the request was made for the embassy in Tripoli, not the consulate in Bengazzi. The attack was an intelligence failure - which doesnt say much.

The repubs are trying to make this into a political issue - but really, most people here are more concerned with the economy (trying not to go back in time) and social issues (trying not to go back in time).

Today one of the dead security guy's wife is on the airwaves spastically upset because she she says she now cant "trust" what the government is telling her. HELLOOOOOOO!!!! Her hubbie was an ex Navy Seal!!! WHEN did the government EVER tell her truthfully what he was up to??? Puleaaaaaze.

(Its like people have memory blinders once they decide they want to enter the political fray).

Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41910 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam does not advocate that people take law in their own hand and dispense their own justice. In Islamic courts such people are like criminals and they would be dealt very severely.
But you people do not want Islamic courts, do you?
MUQ,

Are woman allowed to sit on the Islamic courts as Judges?

Are woman allowed to be mullahs or imams and authorize fatwas and other religious decrees or interpretations?

If not, why not? How can Islam be fair if it is only administered by men?
SeasideSoon

Fortson, GA

#41911 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
From what was testified, the request was made for the embassy in Tripoli, not the consulate in Bengazzi. The attack was an intelligence failure - which doesnt say much.
The repubs are trying to make this into a political issue - but really, most people here are more concerned with the economy (trying not to go back in time) and social issues (trying not to go back in time).
Today one of the dead security guy's wife is on the airwaves spastically upset because she she says she now cant "trust" what the government is telling her. HELLOOOOOOO!!!! Her hubbie was an ex Navy Seal!!! WHEN did the government EVER tell her truthfully what he was up to??? Puleaaaaaze.
(Its like people have memory blinders once they decide they want to enter the political fray).
I believe it was the lady's only child, who she raised by herself. No, he didn't tell her what he did, or was he was stationed.
SeasideSoon

Fortson, GA

#41912 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
From what was testified, the request was made for the embassy in Tripoli, not the consulate in Bengazzi. The attack was an intelligence failure - which doesnt say much.
The repubs are trying to make this into a political issue - but really, most people here are more concerned with the economy (trying not to go back in time) and social issues (trying not to go back in time).
Today one of the dead security guy's wife is on the airwaves spastically upset because she she says she now cant "trust" what the government is telling her. HELLOOOOOOO!!!! Her hubbie was an ex Navy Seal!!! WHEN did the government EVER tell her truthfully what he was up to??? Puleaaaaaze.
(Its like people have memory blinders once they decide they want to enter the political fray).
Did you watch the entire hearing? I found it curious, actually refreshing, that after a couple of obligatory remarks about being a partisan hearing, the Dems were strangely silent. Rats and ships come to mind.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41913 Oct 14, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I believe it was the lady's only child, who she raised by herself. No, he didn't tell her what he did, or was he was stationed.
I read the obit of him, and he had been around the world doing security (post special ops) in some really sketchy places. I had thought the story was about his wife. When I read the obit a few weeks ago, I couldnt help wondering what type of marriage this guy must have to be abroad for his entire career, let alone in highly dangerous places.(To be fair, I wonder the same about Bill and Hillary - but we know the answer to THAT one)
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41914 Oct 14, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I believe it was the lady's only child, who she raised by herself. No, he didn't tell her what he did, or was he was stationed.
You are correct. I just googled the story. He was the computer specialist, not the ex Seal. Ironically, it was the ex-Seals mom who told Romney to buzz off and not invoke them.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41915 Oct 14, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Did you watch the entire hearing? I found it curious, actually refreshing, that after a couple of obligatory remarks about being a partisan hearing, the Dems were strangely silent. Rats and ships come to mind.
Like I said, this is a tempest in a teapot. An attempt to create an election year issue from a candidate whose own views om foreign policy are either no different than Obama, or MIA.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41916 Oct 14, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#41917 Oct 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Have you read this?
former Res the atheist should read it as well ;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22148...
rabbee: coma is not the same, as an out of body experience. i have had more than one out of body experience. two of them for these visits with G-D, like with Daneeel. once while i was reported as being killed in action in vietnam. when i visited, the sleeping place. and a couple of times, as a child.
former res

Broomall, PA

#41918 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Then arent you in luck...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nose_syndr...
White-nose syndrome (WNS) is a poorly understood disease associated with the deaths of at least 5.7 million to 6.7 million North American bats.[
(except,,,ummm,,,what about those mosquito populations???)
Yeah, we need those flying rats!

Else we'll all die of malaria.
former res

Broomall, PA

#41919 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you enjoy my videos?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/judaism/T...
yes, nice re-creation

almost as good as the college boys doing the gaga video

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#41920 Oct 14, 2012
SEA
Lybia is not the business of the UN anymore.
Once the rebels decided to fight on, instead of depending on by proxy talks, there was no more roll for them.
Some resolution will be put into place, but did Lybia ever sign the accord not to use clusterbombs? I'll bet not.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#41921 Oct 14, 2012
Of course there are sharia courts in pakistan.
One saw a documantary of a divorced mae judge and his young daughter wanting to become a judge.
She often di her homework while dad did family cases. She also wanted to become a judge in time.
She announced that she was never ever going to get married in her life, after seeing what it was all about. Her father smiled and said she would in time change her mind.
Would be interesting to see a follow-up.

Traveling in pakistan you often spend time in army compounds, for your own safety, but also control.
Quite the normal thing. A combination of hotel, parking/camping.
SeasideSoon

Fortson, GA

#41922 Oct 14, 2012
SeasideSoon

Fortson, GA

#41923 Oct 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, this is a tempest in a teapot. An attempt to create an election year issue from a candidate whose own views om foreign policy are either no different than Obama, or MIA.
NOT for me - on either count.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41924 Oct 14, 2012
Mohammad , the Ideal Prophet By SYED SULAIMAN NADWI (Abridged) Part-22

Lecture 3. The Historic Aspect of Prophet Muhammad’s Life (Contd.)

Books on Life History of Prophet by Non Muslims

Leave aside the Muslims whose very faith and love for the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) demands that they serve this cause with dedication.

Come to his adversaries. In India, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Brahmo Samajis have written the Prophet’s biographies. In Europe, which does not claim any love for the Prophet, books have been written on the “Life of Muhammad” either to serve the Christian missionary or to satisfy their taste for knowledge or world history.

A few years ago, it was mentioned in a literary magazine of Damascus, called Al- Muqtabas, that 1300 books have been published so far in various European languages about the Prophet of Islam (Peace be upon him). Add to it the number
of books published about him upto the present time and you can get some idea of the interest shown by the non-Muslims in his biography.

No book in English is more poisonous and hostile than Professor D.S. Margoliouth’s “Muhammad” published in 1905 as part of the series “Heroes of the Nations.” The author is a professor of Arabic at Oxford University. This man has distorted nearly every event in the holy Prophet’s biography.

Yet, even he could not help admitting in the introduction of his book:“….The biographers of Prophet Muhammad form a long series which is impossible to end, but in which it would be honourable to find a place”,[Muhammad and Rise of Islam New York, 1905, p1].

John Davenport adopts a more sympathetic attitude. He begins his book “Apology for Muhammad and the Quran”(1870) with the acknowledgment that “Undoubtedly there is not a single law-giver or conqueror in the history of the world whose biography is more detailed and truer than that of Muhammad.”

Rev. Bosworth Smith, fellow of Trinity College, Oxford, gave a series of lectures on the subject of “Muhammad and Mohammedanism” at the Royal Institute of Great Britain in 1874. These lectures were later compiled in the form of a book. How well does he state in this book:

“And, what is true of religion generally is also true, unfortunately, of those three religions which I have called, for want of a better name, historical—and of their founders. We know all too little of the first and the earliest laborers; too much, perhaps, of those who have entered into their labours.

We know less of Zoroaster and Confucius than we do of Solon and Socrates; less of Moses and Buddha than we do of Ambrose and Augustine.

We know indeed some fragments of a fragment of Christ’s life; but who can lift the veil of the thirty years that prepared the way for the three?..

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#41925 Oct 14, 2012
But in Mohammedanism everything is different; here instead of the shadowy and the mysterious we have history. We know as much of Muhammad as we do even of Luther and Milton. The mythical, the legendry, the supernatural is almost wanting in the original Arab authorities, or all events can easily be distinguished from what is historical. Nobody here is the dupe of himself or of others. There is
full light of day upon all that light can ever reach at all.”

Six hundred pupils of Imam Malik, the author of the first compilation of traditions known as Mu’atta, learnt it directly from him. The audience included the rulers and governors, scholars, researchers, literary persons, writers and people from all walks of life.

Imam Bukhari’s Saheeh Al-Bukhari is regarded the most reliable book after the holy Quran. Sixty thousand people learnt it directly from Firbary, just one of the Imam’s numerous students. Can such care, such accuracy and soundness of sources, ever be matched by the life history of any other prophet or founder of a religion?

This historicity was to be the lot of none other than Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah. May Allah send His Blessings and Peace upon him.

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