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“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#1 Jun 10, 2013
DEAR ABBY: I was wondering if you could print something about how to properly dispose of American flags. I'm a garbage man in northern Illinois, and I am sick of finding American flags in the trash.

Most of my co-workers and I pull them out and properly dispose of them. Do people really not realize what our flag means, and how many men and women have given their lives for what it stands for?-- PATRIOT NAMED DANIEL

DEAR DANIEL: Your letter is timely. I'm sure the people you have described are not being intentionally disrespectful. I suspect the flags are thrown out because of ignorance.

Readers: When an American flag becomes soiled, faded and tattered, there are better ways to dispose of it than tossing it in the garbage. According to the U.S. Flag Code, "When a flag has served its useful purpose, it should be destroyed, preferably by burning."

The pamphlet "Flag Etiquette" published by the American Legion states: "For individual citizens this should be done discreetly, so that the act is not perceived as a protest or desecration."

Many American Legion posts conduct Disposal of Unserviceable Flag ceremonies on June 14, Flag Day, each year. The Boy and Girl Scouts of America also are able to conduct these ceremonies. When you are ready to dispose of yours, contact the local Boy or Girl Scout Council, or wait until the Girl Scout cookie sales start locally and offer the flag to the troop during a sale at a small business.

DEAR ABBY: I'm a 50ish, never-married bachelor with a question about engagement rings. Do you recommend that the man go out and purchase an engagement ring and then present it to the woman when he proposes, or do you think he should propose without a ring and then let her choose the ring she wants?-- OLD BACHELOR IN OHIO

DEAR BACHELOR: When a man is ready to propose, it would be prudent for him to visit a jeweler and ask that some rings -- or stones -- in his price range be set aside. Then he can pop the question, and if the woman says yes, take her to the jeweler to select something she would enjoy wearing. This will prevent an unpleasant and expensive surprise should the lady say no.

DEAR ABBY: Your response to "One-Way Ticket's" (5/11) question about his mother's final trip home got me thinking, and I found a loophole they may be able to use. If their mother's air miles can be used by someone else (like her grown kids), she would go as cargo, but her miles would pay for her escort to take her home.

If there are any miles left over after that, they could be donated to various causes, like the Shriners, who sometimes need to get a child flown to another part of the country for treatment. Or the military may have a stranded soldier waiting to go home for the holidays, etc. My oldest flies using my mom's air miles, and I flew my youngest with mine, so if the mother of "One-Way" would like to put her miles to use, this could be helpful.-- FORMER FREQUENT FLIER

DEAR FORMER FREQUENT FLIER: What great ideas! I love the suggestions my readers come up with, and yours are good ones.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#2 Jun 10, 2013
1 If anyone ever challenged me over why I was burning a flag, I would punch them in the nose for their ignorance.

2 Your a 50ish never married bachelor, Why the F* are you even asking this question?

3 Yay, granny is cargo, and this rehash has rigarmortis.(ha!spellcheck dont know that one!)
Cass

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#3 Jun 10, 2013
RACE wrote:
1 If anyone ever challenged me over why I was burning a flag, I would punch them in the nose for their ignorance.
2 Your a 50ish never married bachelor, Why the F* are you even asking this question?
3 Yay, granny is cargo, and this rehash has rigarmortis.(ha!spellcheck dont know that one!)
ROFLMAO

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#4 Jun 10, 2013
LW1: I can't believe this is a huge problem. I've never owned a flag and I'm guessing I'm not alone here.

I'm wondering if the LW is getting upset about the little novelty flags and other flag-adorned cr*p that people have for the 4th of July. If so, he needs to find a hobby; that stuff *is* garbage.

LW2: Whatever.

LW3: I'm being to suspect that Abby gets frequent flyer miles for running rehash.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#5 Jun 10, 2013
L1: I'm with Squishy on this one.

L2: I believe if you can't answer this question for yourself, then you don't know your fiance very well and should not be getting married.

L3: I agree with Race except it's "rigor mortis".
pde

Homer Glen, IL

#6 Jun 10, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I'm wondering if the LW is getting upset about the little novelty flags and other flag-adorned cr*p that people have for the 4th of July. If so, he needs to find a hobby; that stuff *is* garbage.
I've banned those little, cr*ppy flags from my house, because they themselves offend the girl scout in me. And because putting them in the garbage after a few hours when the wood splinters in a dangerous matter also offends the girl scout in me.

I have neighbors who put those little cheapie flags all around their property as decoration for the 4th of July and I suspect toss a ton of them every year (they stay out until they are tattered and then the next year there are new and shiny flags again). The complete waste and the total mistreatment of the flag, just makes me want to groan.

We have a flag but have never put up the flag holder at our house so the pole is in the garage and the flag folded up neatly in the linen closet.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#7 Jun 10, 2013
L1: I bet you're finding those cheap little ones that are on a stick the size of a pencil. I don't care, I'd throw those away as well. But a real flag? I'd give it to a local veterans type group to dispose of properly.

L2: You also can buy a nice, fake CZ ring to propose with, then take her shopping for a ring you both like.

L3: Heh race. It's "rigor mortis."

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#8 Jun 10, 2013
Ah, nevermind. That's what I get for not reading all the comments through first.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#10 Jun 10, 2013
The VFW near here has an old mailbox outside repurposed for old flags.

Since: May 13

Monterey, CA

#11 Jun 10, 2013
LW1: Totally OT, but I have a flag story to share. Our next door neighbor when I was growing up was a vet with one arm. He had a huge flagpole in the front yard and flew the flag every day. When I was learning how to ride my bike, I would ride it across our lawn and his driveway, circle the flagpole, and ride back.

I now work in a building on a former Army base. People here are *very* patriotic and bring out the flags on Memorial Day, July 4, Veterans Day, etc.

The only flag that I own is the one from my dad's funeral and it will remain folded. I was thinking about getting a case for it that I can put his picture and the flag in. My co-worker has one and it's really nice.

LW2: I like Red's idea of getting a nice CZ ring to propose with and buying the real ring together.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#12 Jun 10, 2013
When my ex-FIL retired from the Air Force, he got a flag from the military. He gave it to my ex. We put up a flag pole (not tall, maybe seven feet or eight feet?) and hung it. And it got stolen.

He was FURIOUS.

He bought another flag and hung it, but he electrified the flag pole.:)

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#13 Jun 10, 2013
Kuuipo wrote:
LW2: I like Red's idea of getting a nice CZ ring to propose with and buying the real ring together.
I had heard that you sometimes can get a plain ol' solitaire -- a real diamond ring -- that you can use to propose, and then you take the ring back and return it to the store and get full credit to use toward another ring -- that was the whole purpose of the ring and the store encouraged it (because now you're stuck having to buy a ring from them).

BUt that seems risky to me. What if she says "But I want THIS ring, it's the one you proposed with!"? Just get a fake one she's fine giving up.
Stina

Saint Petersburg, FL

#14 Jun 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I had heard that you sometimes can get a plain ol' solitaire -- a real diamond ring -- that you can use to propose, and then you take the ring back and return it to the store and get full credit to use toward another ring -- that was the whole purpose of the ring and the store encouraged it (because now you're stuck having to buy a ring from them).
BUt that seems risky to me. What if she says "But I want THIS ring, it's the one you proposed with!"? Just get a fake one she's fine giving up.
I think the CZ idea is great and would make for a fun story to tell in the future.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#15 Jun 10, 2013
I dont see a problem with her wanting to keep a cheap ring and save me a few K. Wish the X had given me back the one I gave her, woulda made a nice deposit on my boat.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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BUt that seems risky to me. What if she says "But I want THIS ring, it's the one you proposed with!"?

Since: May 13

Monterey, CA

#16 Jun 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>
I had heard that you sometimes can get a plain ol' solitaire -- a real diamond ring -- that you can use to propose, and then you take the ring back and return it to the store and get full credit to use toward another ring -- that was the whole purpose of the ring and the store encouraged it (because now you're stuck having to buy a ring from them).
BUt that seems risky to me. What if she says "But I want THIS ring, it's the one you proposed with!"? Just get a fake one she's fine giving up.
They make some very nice looking CZs now and mount them in real gold. They look very real, sparkle very nicely, and if you should lose the ring, you are not out thousands of dollars. If she decides to keep the CZ ring, they can spend the money on a nice honeymoon. Personally, I would not feel safe wearing a huge, expensive diamond on my finger like one of my friends does.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#17 Jun 10, 2013
I had friends who married very young who used a very cheap gold band. Years passed and they did well and she wouldn't give up the original band because of it sentimental value.
I had an engagement ring the first time. I think we picked it out together and then he chose the stone he could afford. It's in the jewelry box I think- that was 45 years ago.
Second time, I didn't want one. I don't wear stones in general and sometimes go places I don't want to flash jewelry anyway. No one will fight over who gets my engagement ring wen I am gone.He gave me a truly beautiful necklace with matched stones for an engagement gift instead, but I only wear it rarely

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#18 Jun 10, 2013
L1. I would not be at all surprised if many of those sentimental US flags are made in China these days.
I'm not saying they should be treated with disrespect, just that I would not be surprised if they have their manufacturing origin in China or Taiwan or Bufu Eqypt perhaps.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#19 Jun 10, 2013
*Indochina

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#20 Jun 10, 2013
RACE wrote:
1 If anyone ever challenged me over why I was burning a flag, I would punch them in the nose for their ignorance.
Word.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#21 Jun 10, 2013
I refuse to buy those cheapie little flags, flag pens, or other flag paraphernalia. If I'm going to have a flag (and I do) it will be real, even if it's not huge. Those other ones are crap, but the patriot in me has a hard time discarding them, even though logically I know they're garbage. <sigh>

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