Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#42 Feb 6, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Number one, the separation of church and state is not in place to prevent students from praying. That's an over-zealous interpretation from the left. Number two, I never advocated the principal should be allowed to lead the entire school in prayer during the morning announcements. That is YOU'RE over-zealous interpretation. Schools won't even allow a student prayer group on school grounds. Now if you can show me those exact words in the constitution, then you'll be able to tell me I'm "picking and choosing" constitutional laws.
Most schools don't allow students to chew gum. That's not in the Constitution either.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#43 Feb 6, 2013
Toj wrote:
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Exactly -- which means there is no ban on prayer.
When people bring up not being able to have organized prayer in school, let's say before little Johnny starts his day -- how would they feel if it was this they were teaching the kids: http://islam.about.com/od/prayer/ht/pray.htm
Edog will claim that this is a CHRISTIAN nation and who cares what muslims want.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#44 Feb 6, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Number one, the separation of church and state is not in place to prevent students from praying. That's an over-zealous interpretation from the left. Number two, I never advocated the principal should be allowed to lead the entire school in prayer during the morning announcements. That is YOU'RE over-zealous interpretation. Schools won't even allow a student prayer group on school grounds. Now if you can show me those exact words in the constitution, then you'll be able to tell me I'm "picking and choosing" constitutional laws.
You're right, it's not. It's not in place for any particular purpose. it is in place for the general purpose of preventing an established government religion, which is what the settlers left Europe to escape. And it doesn't. Susie and Johnny are not prevented from praying.

You're the one who said there is a ban on prayer. Talk about your over-zealous interpretations. How about YOU show me THOSE exact words in the constitution. Show me where the Constitution bans prayer in schools. Show me where a student cannot pray if he or she so chooses.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#45 Feb 6, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
Show me where the Constitution bans prayer in schools. Show me where a student cannot pray if he or she so chooses.
Are you really this simple? Is this not the exact question I just posed to you? By all means, please show me where it says that.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#46 Feb 6, 2013
Toj wrote:
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unless you're talking about organized prayer in a public school/place.
He is. God forbid someone worships a different god than the one he believes is the RIGHT one...or...GASP!...doesn't worship one at all. Taliban anyone?
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#47 Feb 6, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Are you really this simple? Is this not the exact question I just posed to you? By all means, please show me where it says that.
You don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore. You're just fighting to fight. Does it ever get frustrating, contributing nothing but antagonism?

Since: Mar 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#48 Feb 6, 2013
Speaking of religion, didn't anyone notice LW1's signature? Specifically, location location location!

May not be gay OR low-T; may have some religiously-based hangups. Just sayin'!

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#49 Feb 6, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Schools won't even allow a student prayer group on school grounds.
Fail. Again.

http://www.homeword.com/equal-access-students...
rancor

United States

#50 Feb 6, 2013
Testing

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#51 Feb 6, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
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You don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore. You're just fighting to fight. Does it ever get frustrating, contributing nothing but antagonism?
Why can't you just admit defeat?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#52 Feb 6, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Uh... you do realize that you've actually just proved yourself wrong? Aren't you the ones claiming church and state should be kept separate?

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#53 Feb 6, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Uh... you do realize that you've actually just proved yourself wrong? Aren't you the ones claiming church and state should be kept separate?
OMG. I'm with Sam on this one...TSTI.
Mia

Rockford, IL

#54 Feb 6, 2013
Winning!
:)
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#55 Feb 7, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Why can't you just admit defeat?
Says the person who has been shown to be wrong 4-5 times in this thread alone.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#56 Feb 7, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
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Says the person who has been shown to be wrong 4-5 times in this thread alone.
Name three.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#57 Feb 7, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Name three.
Just read the thread, dum dum. Tonka, Toj, Mimi, they all have your number.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#58 Feb 7, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
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Just read the thread, dum dum. Tonka, Toj, Mimi, they all have your number.
Nothing, huh? Figures.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#59 Feb 7, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Nothing, huh? Figures.
Putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "La la la!" doesn't make it not happen.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#60 Feb 7, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
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Putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "La la la!" doesn't make it not happen.
No, what makes it not happen is everyone's inability to prove me wrong. Just saying I'm wrong without backing it up doesn't make it so.

So students can get special permission and an exception can be made. That still doesn't negate my whole premise. Now either prove me wrong or be man enough to admit defeat.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#61 Feb 7, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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No, what makes it not happen is everyone's inability to prove me wrong. Just saying I'm wrong without backing it up doesn't make it so.
So students can get special permission and an exception can be made. That still doesn't negate my whole premise. Now either prove me wrong or be man enough to admit defeat.
Your premise was that prayer was banned so, yep, it negates it.

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