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#54049 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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http://chronicle.com/article/article-content/...
Evolutionists have nailed down how an enormous number of previously unexplained phenomena—in anatomy, physiology, embryology, behavior—have evolved. There are still mysteries, however, and one of the most prominent is the origins of homosexuality.
The mystery is simple enough. Its solution, however, has thus far eluded our best scientific minds.
First the mystery.
The sine qua non for any trait to have evolved is for it to correlate positively with reproductive success, or, more precisely, with success in projecting genes relevant to that trait into the future. So, if homosexuality is in any sense a product of evolution—and it clearly is, for reasons to be explained—then genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage. The problem should be obvious: If homosexuals reproduce less than heterosexuals—and they do—then why has natural selection not operated against it?
The paradox of homosexuality is especially pronounced for individuals whose homosexual preference is exclusive; that is, who have no inclination toward heterosexuality. But the mystery persists even for those who are bisexual, since it is mathematically provable that even a tiny difference in reproductive outcome can drive substantial evolutionary change.
Smile.
Yawn. The original statement concerned the claim that homosexuality was a form of mental retardation. Was this cut and paste supposed to address that? It didn't. Thanks for demonstrating yet again that you're a complete dolt Greg.

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#54050 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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You lie.
Every time I have seen it, I have responded. In fact, the article I posted even notes your suggestion AND GIVES REASON FOR WHY IT HAS PROBLEMS.
But hey, you are clearly in denial. Here is another smack on the head:
http://popsych.org/5-weak-ideas-about-the-ori...
"Selection Pressures: Sexually Antagonistic Selection
This brings us to the final selection pressure. Here, the idea is that a gene is detrimental when it’s inherited by one sex, but beneficial in the other. This is another theoretically plausible suggestions with some consistent evidence behind it (but the account isn’t anywhere near complete, and only considers male homosexuality). Unfortunately for this suggestion, like the above hypothesis, it also suffers from the concordance rate data. It would also require that females consistently more than make up for the detriment to the male offspring, reproductively. Remember, this isn’t just a matter of slight disadvantages; this is a matter of effective sterility. Further, such sexually antagonistic issues tend to be weeded out over time, as any new modifications that can avoid the costs associated with expression in males will be selected for. Even if this was a viable account, then, it would still be far from a complete one, as it would not be able to explain why some of the twin pairs turn out concordant, but most don’t, why these reproductive costs have yet to be eliminated, and it’s missing an account of female homosexuality."
SMile.
And still you haven't supported the claims that homosexuality is either a form of mental illness or a defect.

Greg Kirschmann = Topix's biggest moron.
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#54051 Apr 11, 2014
CDC wrote:
Every time you walk by a dumb@ss meter it must be pegged.
DOUBLE SMIRK
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At least I was able to break you down and make you stop with the "you're so hateful" routine.

LOL.

You lose. You were trying to troll and got out-trolled.

Better luck next time, little guy.

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#54052 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Actually, I've posted two articles that give several reasons to question the hypothesis. The most significant is that it does nothing to address the other gender side of homosexuality.
The "other gender side of homosexuality". WTF? You're a moron.
KiMare wrote:
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Moreover, you are attempting to assert that the purpose of homosexuality is proven. A lie.
But to top it off, your answer is the gene that gives straight women fecundity makes gay men a mating behavior failure. And most women now counter the effect... A pointless purpose...
What's the purpose of left handidness? Is it required to have one? I'm pretty sure that my homosexuality isn't required to have a purpose.

Carry on with your stupidity dolt.
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#54053 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
To me, SS couples are still only ever mutually sterile pointlessly duplicate gendered halves of marriage.
There. Fixed that for ya.

SMIRK
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#54054 Apr 11, 2014
Scott wrote:
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If there was now BIBLE there would be no such thing as good or evil.
Are you retarded?
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#54055 Apr 11, 2014
Registered Earth Angel wrote:
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And still you haven't supported the claims that homosexuality is either a form of mental illness or a defect.
Greg Kirschmann = Topix's biggest moron.
Of course not. He throws crap out there and when you refute it with documented facts he starts the ad hominems. When you return fire, he says all you can do is attack.

He is beyond pathetic.

But what else can you expect from someone who is such a failure in life. A dumb, hillbilly truckdriver who got himself thrown out of his church for adultery trying to claim moral high ground. It's sheer insanity.

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#54056 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
If ss couples want to be considered married,
The state and the federal government aren't concerned with "considerations". Any "considerations" are of your own making and thus completely irrelevant.
KiMare wrote:
they will always be rated as the inferior version,
The state that sanctions marriages doesn't have various versions, they only have one version. It's the same version granted to both gays and straights. Any "rating" of marriages is being conducted by the mentally inferior like yourself, and of no concern.
KiMare wrote:
lacking the fruit and diversity in traditional marriage.
Our marriage have just as much fruit and diversity as any others. You're opinions are founded in nonsense and as such not worth consideration.
KiMare wrote:
However, a rational person would consider just those two distinctions so severe, it instead makes ss marriage an oxymoron.
No, rational people don't spend time making up irrelevant distinctions. Rational people don't stick their fingers in their ears and yell "lalalalalalalalalalalala ". You, pretending to speak for rational people is beyond hilarious.

What else you got gramps?

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#54057 Apr 11, 2014
Ace wrote:
God Expects Us to Judge
"The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.
"Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can't. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.
Zeus expects you to shut your moron mouth. He trumps your god.

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#54058 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.
An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.
To answer your question, no, we won't feel inferior. We never have. We have no reason to.

Dance puppet.

“Busting Kimare's”

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#54059 Apr 11, 2014
Registered Earth Angel wrote:
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And still you haven't supported the claims that homosexuality is either a form of mental illness or a defect.
Greg Kirschmann = Topix's biggest moron.
I would amend that to include the word troll.

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#54061 Apr 11, 2014
Ace wrote:
<quoted text> And gays can't have children, that is why they are kidnapping children from hetersexuals.
Two boys kidnapped by homosexuals or “homosexuals ...
antigayfactcheck.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/two... ...
Sep 24, 2012 · Is making a news report about two boys being “kidnapped by homosexuals” an attempt to brand homosexuals as being more likely to molest children?
Homosexuality A Serious Problem as Terrorism Archives ...
gistonthis.com/tag/homosexuality-a-serious-pr...
Homosexuality A Serious Problem as Terrorism,... Police Discover Baby Factory in Asaba.... Canadian Nun Kidnapped In Cameroon.
Gays can and do have children, and you post proves you're a complete idiot. My guess is you didn't read either of your links. Had you, you would know you've just demonstrated yourself to be a moron.

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#54062 Apr 11, 2014
Scott wrote:
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If there was now BIBLE there would be no such thing as good or evil.
By far, one of the stupidest posts ever to grace Topix.

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#54063 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
SS couples are still only ever mutually sterile pointlessly duplicate gendered halves of marriage.
Gregory Kirschmann, still only a moron with no power, no influence and no importance.

“Busting Kimare's”

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#54064 Apr 11, 2014
Registered Earth Angel wrote:
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Gregory Kirschmann, still only a moron with no power, no influence and no importance.
Truer words were never spoken.

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#54066 Apr 12, 2014
The personal bullying and troll attacks don't answer the question:

Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?

A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.

An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.

“Busting Kimare's”

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#54068 Apr 12, 2014
KiMare wrote:
The personal bullying and troll attacks don't answer the question:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
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No. We don't feel inferior to anyone. Many of us have children.

Question answered, you schipzophrenic, 3 nipped, hermaphrodite.

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#54069 Apr 12, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>No. We don't feel inferior to anyone. Many of us have children.

Question answered, you schipzophrenic, 3 nipped, hermaphrodite.
LMAO!!! Ha Ha!

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#54070 Apr 12, 2014
Registered Earth Angel wrote:
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The state and the federal government aren't concerned with "considerations". Any "considerations" are of your own making and thus completely irrelevant.
<quoted text>
The state that sanctions marriages doesn't have various versions, they only have one version. It's the same version granted to both gays and straights. Any "rating" of marriages is being conducted by the mentally inferior like yourself, and of no concern.
<quoted text>
Our marriage have just as much fruit and diversity as any others. You're opinions are founded in nonsense and as such not worth consideration.
<quoted text>
No, rational people don't spend time making up irrelevant distinctions. Rational people don't stick their fingers in their ears and yell "lalalalalalalalalalalala ". You, pretending to speak for rational people is beyond hilarious.
What else you got gramps?
Lol, you have a piece of paper from the state that every element of reality mocks.

Your relationship is a duplicate gendered fruitless fraud.

Smirk.

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#54071 Apr 12, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Lol, you have a piece of paper from the state that every element of reality mocks.
Your relationship is a duplicate gendered fruitless fraud.
Smirk.
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