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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Granite City, IL

#53422 Mar 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At this point, you could have posted a book AND those 'court documents'. What, was I arrested?
You got nothing troll.
Smile.
No, I have posted you accuser's blog as well. Remeber, the one you keep saying I couldn't post? I already have twit.

Those legaal documents show you removed from the pulpit of House of Israel for meddling with one of your married parishioners wives.

You are no authority on marriage, just a sociopath who gets his kicks meddling in other people's marriages.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Granite City, IL

#53423 Mar 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet, ss couples are still only ever mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered fake halves of marriage.
Being gay and being sterile are two different things, you twit.

Wife thief.

Defrocked pastor.

Adulterer.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Granite City, IL

#53424 Mar 14, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
The exact same marriage that you have, according to the federal government.
No Dusty, you didn't steal someone else's spouse. Kimare's marriage isn't real because his wife already belonged to someone else until death do them part. Kimare's marriage is the only one here that isn't real, because he stole his wife from one of his parishioner's. He used his role as pastor to groom and con her into leaving her husband. He is a sociopath who used his pulpit for abusive, manipulative purposes.

So your marriage is far more acceptable and moral than Kimare's
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Granite City, IL

#53425 Mar 14, 2014
Cali Girl 2014 wrote:
<quoted text>
Who would stay with that POS for
36 years?
A weak minded victim of a sociopathic con man. Greg used his pulpit to control and manipulate people. He was removed from the pulpit when it was discovered that he was a psycho who was using his role in the church to abuse and control people.

His wife is just a victim in all of this. She's not even his real wife. She can't be. She was betrothed to another and God does not believe in divorce. Especially when it is started by a manipulative clergy member, abusing his authority within the church to satisfy his own selfish ends.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Granite City, IL

#53426 Mar 14, 2014
Ace wrote:
<quoted text> Your are losing it, going into attack mode doesn't suit you well. For a couple of days there you was holding your own without attacking.
Now getting back on track. So you say priest, boy scout leaders, school coaches that has sexually abused young boys is not gay? Maybe you can understand this?
Florida gay child porn suspect admits to molesting Boy Scouts on ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../florida-child-porn-su... York Daily News
Feb 21, 2014 - A former Boy Scout leader from Florida confessed to molesting dozens of young boys ... 76, confessed to abusing and taking nude photos of young boys while they were in ... Eric Gay/AP ... RELATED: COACH JAILED AT SEX ABUSE TRIAL ... BY U.N. COMMITTEE TO ACT ON PRIEST SEX ABUSE CASES.
RE- The advisability of "Gay" men acting as Boy Scout leaders,.?
answers.yahoo.com/question/index... ;
Jun 13, 2012 - I am thinking of Catholic priests & athletic coachs,.... It is a fact, that we read in the news, on a regular basis, of Little League coaches, abusing their positions. So, are those who are in favor of Gay Boy Scout leaders saying that they .... A Catholic priest, a Boy Scout leader and a lawyer take some boys out on ...
Boy Scouts release secret child abuse files --'the pain and the ...
usnews.nbcnews.com/_.../14539592-boy-scouts-r... ;
NBC News
Oct 18, 2012 -“While there are 1,247 files, we know that each Scout leader ..... Scouting is supposed to give young boys positive male role models ... So now the boy scouts have all these files on sexual abuse from gay scout leaders I am not surprised..... Scout's pedophile Masters and Catholic Church's pedophile priests ...
Would you like some more proof?
Proof of what, twit?

Pedophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality.

Period.

Cali Girl 2014

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#53427 Mar 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>You posted those lies.

You are a transvestite going by the name of 'Phylis'
whose real name is 'Sonne Israel'.
Prove it liar ;;;;
facts

Detroit, MI

#53428 Mar 14, 2014
Kimare_is_a_wife_thief wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof of what, twit?
Pedophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality.
Period.
Before you speak you might want to read this link

http://patdollard.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedop...

Seems that the experts on this subject don't agree with your opinion but hey what do they know im sure their degrees mean nothing its not like they have the superior knowledge you have on the subject.
facts

Detroit, MI

#53429 Mar 14, 2014
Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law.“This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”The White House praised the bill saying,“At root, this isn’t just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another  – whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament,“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”He went on to say,“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied,“If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and,“There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said,“Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.“It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53430 Mar 14, 2014
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you speak you might want to read this link
http://patdollard.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedop...
Seems that the experts on this subject don't agree with your opinion but hey what do they know im sure their degrees mean nothing its not like they have the superior knowledge you have on the subject.
"In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Where. What report?

"Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term."

No, no it hasn't. Victimizing a minor is already a crime. This law did nothing to change that.

"Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament,“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”

The article says VAn Gigjseghem said this, but it is a deliberate misrepresentation. Here he is in his own words.

n response to the article of columnist Brian Lilley “«Experts» running the asylum in Canada”(Toronto Sun, February 25), I would like to make the following statement.
M. Lilley may have been acting in jest when he wrote that Van Gijseghem “showed up (at the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights) to tell MPs pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality”
Now, if this may look funny, this misquote got around the country and people interpret it as if Van Gijseghem is trivializing pedophilia and treating it like, as on hate-mail stated,“a normal human function”

"My argumentation before the Committee was exactly the opposite
What I said, in sum, is the following: Real pedophiles (about 15 to 20 percent of all child sexual abusers) would better be incarcerated rather than referred to some therapy program as an alternative. The reason: they are untreatable. Why are they untreatable? Because a sexual orientation (an exclusive attraction to prepubescent children is a sexual orientation) is irreversible.
Unlike the way Lilley’s quote was interpreted, I affirm that pedophilia is definitely a pathologic attraction and acting out this attraction is a very serious crime.

Dr Hubert Van Gijseghem, Ph.D.
Forensic Psychologist
Université de Montréal"

"Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.“It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”"

Mission America is well-known hate group.

Regardless, the original point was that homesexuality and pedophilia are two different things. Your article actually substantiates my point. It doesn't refute it. Your webpage is a bunch of bullshit propaganda. Sex with children is a crime. Sex between two consenting adults is not. You only try to confound the issues because you know that you are losing the gay marriage debate and this is your only hope. It's a pathetic gutter tactic only worthy of trashy, ignorant people.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#53432 Mar 14, 2014
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you speak you might want to read this link
http://patdollard.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedop...
Seems that the experts on this subject don't agree with your opinion but hey what do they know im sure their degrees mean nothing its not like they have the superior knowledge you have on the subject.
Um..... what experts and what degrees? Pat Dollard flat out lies in the article you linked.
Ace

Benton, IL

#53433 Mar 14, 2014
Cali Girl 2014 wrote:
<quoted text>
No.....I'm sure there are Gay Pedophiles. I'm sure there are straight
Pedophiles as well.I don't think they
care if it's a boy or girl,some do. I
have my opinion about Kimare.Did you
know he says he is a Hermaphrodite?
A Chimera? Self proclaimed Barbarian?
Plus adulterer and stole money from
God? You stick up for him all you
want to,he really was kicked out of
two churches for seducing two
Parishioners?Look up Chimera while
you're at it....No Pastor acts like him.
Humm, how do I respond? No I do not know KiMare just only what he posted and I haven't read those comments. But i'm not here reading everyday neither, so you could be correct? Another view point if KiMare is guilty of those allegations then he has admitted his sins and can be forgiven by god if he ask for forgiveness and has a change of heart. Have you every heard of a gay person asking forgiveness for their homosexual sex acts?(being gay is not a sin, but the gay sex acts is) Hate the game not the player.......two types of people that never ask god for forgiveness for their sins, gays and atheist.

"No Pastor acts like him"....The good book does say beware of false profits. I know we are walking a fine line, but what is your salvation worth? When in doubt, give doubt the benefit. So until I truly know what gods true intentions he gets the benefit of the doubt, not mankinds laws. It's better to be safe than sorry!!!!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#53434 Mar 14, 2014
Kimare_is_a_wife_thief wrote:
<quoted text>
Being gay and being sterile are two different things, you twit.
Wife thief.
Defrocked pastor.
Adulterer.
Copy and paste what the blog said about me.

I give you permission.

Smile.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53435 Mar 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Copy and paste what the blog said about me.
I give you permission.
Smile.
I don't need your permission to point out your immorality, pastor. Stop being such a narcissist.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53437 Mar 14, 2014
Ace wrote:
<quoted text> Humm, how do I respond? No I do not know KiMare just only what he posted and I haven't read those comments. But i'm not here reading everyday neither, so you could be correct? Another view point if KiMare is guilty of those allegations then he has admitted his sins and can be forgiven by god if he ask for forgiveness and has a change of heart. Have you every heard of a gay person asking forgiveness for their homosexual sex acts?(being gay is not a sin, but the gay sex acts is) Hate the game not the player.......two types of people that never ask god for forgiveness for their sins, gays and atheist.
"No Pastor acts like him"....The good book does say beware of false profits. I know we are walking a fine line, but what is your salvation worth? When in doubt, give doubt the benefit. So until I truly know what gods true intentions he gets the benefit of the doubt, not mankinds laws. It's better to be safe than sorry!!!!!!
Actually, he hasn't admitted his sins. He is living in denial.

His lashing out here is a defense mechanism because he knows his own marriage is illegitimate as it was born out of a covetous, adulterous relationship.
facts

Detroit, MI

#53438 Mar 14, 2014
Kimare_is_a_wife_thief wrote:
<quoted text>
"In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”
Where. What report?
"Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term."
No, no it hasn't. Victimizing a minor is already a crime. This law did nothing to change that.
"Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament,“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”
The article says VAn Gigjseghem said this, but it is a deliberate misrepresentation. Here he is in his own words.
n response to the article of columnist Brian Lilley “«Experts» running the asylum in Canada”(Toronto Sun, February 25), I would like to make the following statement.
M. Lilley may have been acting in jest when he wrote that Van Gijseghem “showed up (at the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights) to tell MPs pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality”
Now, if this may look funny, this misquote got around the country and people interpret it as if Van Gijseghem is trivializing pedophilia and treating it like, as on hate-mail stated,“a normal human function”
"My argumentation before the Committee was exactly the opposite
What I said, in sum, is the following: Real pedophiles (about 15 to 20 percent of all child sexual abusers) would better be incarcerated rather than referred to some therapy program as an alternative. The reason: they are untreatable. Why are they untreatable? Because a sexual orientation (an exclusive attraction to prepubescent children is a sexual orientation) is irreversible.
Unlike the way Lilley’s quote was interpreted, I affirm that pedophilia is definitely a pathologic attraction and acting out this attraction is a very serious crime.
Dr Hubert Van Gijseghem, Ph.D.
Forensic Psychologist
Université de Montréal"
"Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.“It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”"
Mission America is well-known hate group.
Regardless, the original point was that homesexuality and pedophilia are two different things. Your article actually substantiates my point. It doesn't refute it. Your webpage is a bunch of bullshit propaganda. Sex with children is a crime. Sex between two consenting adults is not. You only try to confound the issues because you know that you are losing the gay marriage debate and this is your only hope. It's a pathetic gutter tactic only worthy of trashy, ignorant people.
Lol i careless if gay marriage is allowed the way i see it there is no reason that they should not be allowed to be married. My point is you ramble off your thought and all who do not share your view is wrong. You will find that you are not always right. The people mentioned in the article have degrees and titles since you say they are wrong can you enlighten us on your education and possible degrees to back it ??? Or maybe you should just change your name back to truth and go back to being a granite city topix troll.
(Not to be confused with mahz the other granite city topix user using the name truth)
facts

Detroit, MI

#53439 Mar 14, 2014
Kimare_is_a_wife_thief wrote:
<quoted text>
"In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”
Where. What report?
"Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term."
No, no it hasn't. Victimizing a minor is already a crime. This law did nothing to change that.
"Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament,“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”
The article says VAn Gigjseghem said this, but it is a deliberate misrepresentation. Here he is in his own words.
n response to the article of columnist Brian Lilley “«Experts» running the asylum in Canada”(Toronto Sun, February 25), I would like to make the following statement.
M. Lilley may have been acting in jest when he wrote that Van Gijseghem “showed up (at the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights) to tell MPs pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality”
Now, if this may look funny, this misquote got around the country and people interpret it as if Van Gijseghem is trivializing pedophilia and treating it like, as on hate-mail stated,“a normal human function”
"My argumentation before the Committee was exactly the opposite
What I said, in sum, is the following: Real pedophiles (about 15 to 20 percent of all child sexual abusers) would better be incarcerated rather than referred to some therapy program as an alternative. The reason: they are untreatable. Why are they untreatable? Because a sexual orientation (an exclusive attraction to prepubescent children is a sexual orientation) is irreversible.
Unlike the way Lilley’s quote was interpreted, I affirm that pedophilia is definitely a pathologic attraction and acting out this attraction is a very serious crime.
Dr Hubert Van Gijseghem, Ph.D.
Forensic Psychologist
Université de Montréal"
"Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves.“It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”"
Mission America is well-known hate group.
Regardless, the original point was that homesexuality and pedophilia are two different things. Your article actually substantiates my point. It doesn't refute it. Your webpage is a bunch of bullshit propaganda. Sex with children is a crime. Sex between two consenting adults is not. You only try to confound the issues because you know that you are losing the gay marriage debate and this is your only hope. It's a pathetic gutter tactic only worthy of trashy, ignorant people.
You claim this to be false well prove it all knowing. Like you like to cry show me your proof.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53440 Mar 14, 2014
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol i careless if gay marriage is allowed the way i see it there is no reason that they should not be allowed to be married. My point is you ramble off your thought and all who do not share your view is wrong. You will find that you are not always right. The people mentioned in the article have degrees and titles since you say they are wrong can you enlighten us on your education and possible degrees to back it ??? Or maybe you should just change your name back to truth and go back to being a granite city topix troll.
(Not to be confused with mahz the other granite city topix user using the name truth)
I already pointed out in my previous post that your article was a deliberate misrepresentation of what was said and then posted the correction in the man's own words. The people in the article do have degrees, but what the article said was a lie.

You will find that the US Constitution says that anyone who thinks their religion trumps individual liberty is wrong.
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53441 Mar 14, 2014
facts wrote:
<quoted text>
You claim this to be false well prove it all knowing. Like you like to cry show me your proof.
I already have. What are you, stupid?

Cali Girl 2014

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#53442 Mar 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Copy and paste what the blog said about me.

I give you permission.

Smile.
No one needs to copy and paste, it's
all on one page.Your page liar!
Kimare_is_a_wife _thief

Saint Louis, MO

#53443 Mar 14, 2014
Well, I sure am stupid !

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