Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#48711 Jan 17, 2014
Earth Angel wrote:
<quoted text>
what you're in the 5th grade ??
i'll have to keep my grand daughter away from you.
you do know this is pretty much an adult theme thread.
talk to your mommy and daddy before you post on here ok
sheesh kids with nothing to do once they get out of school for a holiday weekend.
uh huh..... avoid my response. Try and steer the conversation away from evidence of your guilt. Of course I didn't say I was in the 5th grade. Either your reading skills suck, or you were attempting to make a joke for a dodge... probably both.

But I don't expect facts to change your mind. People like you don't care about facts.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#48712 Jan 17, 2014
Earth Angel wrote:
<quoted text>
i don't see the answer so let me try it this way just pick a number
1 ) the church is right therefore the pastor/priest should be defrocked and the marriage annulled.
2 ) the priest is right therefore the gay agenda is that churches like that Methodist church should be FORCED to allow marriages of gays in their church
just pick one of the numbers Dusty
that answers the question
none of your BS dodge just pick a number
Forced? Forced by whom?...surely not the government. Aren't you forgetting about the 1st Amendment? You know: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#48713 Jan 17, 2014
Earth Angel wrote:
<quoted text>
you're still ducking it
this is the 2ND time - so the pastor/priest KNEW he wasn't allowed to do it
so again stop ducking and pick an answer
OR
admit the fact that you're ducking it - its obvious why
Pick an answer? The Methodist church has the right to discipline its pastors, of course.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#48714 Jan 17, 2014
Earth Angel wrote:
that is the gay agenda - to force churches to allow gay marriages in churches where it is against their religion.
You better believe at some point they'll take this Methodist church to court saying gay marriages did occur there so therefore they should be allowed.
The government has no jurisdiction over whom a church chooses to marry/not marry. Why would anyone file suit for that? It would be immediately dismissed because the court has no jurisdiction.

Stop being Chicken Little. The sky ain't falling!
Gay Activist

Carbondale, IL

#48715 Jan 17, 2014
Carbondale just lost its gay mayor. Hope we can get Sheila back.
I Own You Now

Prague, Czech Republic

#48717 Jan 17, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Toodles, AceWipe. Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
I am going to take your account away from you. It will be mine, soon. You stupid little pp homosexual boy.
I Own You Now

Prague, Czech Republic

#48718 Jan 17, 2014
rabnew wrote:
When my sister wanted to get married, she found it difficult to find a church to marry her and her fiance` because he was a divorced Catholic. Not that he was Catholic, but rather a divorced Catholic. They found a lovely church to get married in and all was well. A non Catholic Church.
Now, having said that, nobody kicked up a fuss about the reasoning behind the church's decision not to marry them, because we respected their beliefs. I think, as a straight person, that if a church knocks back a gay marriage, then look elsewhere. Some church's will bless the gay marriage and some probably won't. They (in my opinion only) should not be 'forced' to acknowledge a union between two people if they feel it goes against their religious beliefs.
... Church of Satan, no doubt. Aside from that, why don't you go kill yourself? Nobody would miss your pathetic fooked up evil self. BTW ... why is there child pornography on your computer?
I Own You Now

Prague, Czech Republic

#48719 Jan 17, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Trolling. And really badly, I might add.
Your death wish has been noted.
I Own You Now

Prague, Czech Republic

#48720 Jan 17, 2014
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
In your opinion, but not in reality. Now, within every church, and denomination, everyone has free will. If some in a church believe that marrying a gay couples is Godly, and some don't, then they will have to work it out among themselves, or split off.
It's not like this is uncommon. There are thousands of Christian denominations for just this reason.
But a religious blessing is certainly not required for ANY marriage, and no one is forced to give one if they choose not to.
I hate homosexuals. And so do tens of millions of others Americans I see. In Africa, homosexuals are put to death like they should be in the USA.

“"Running Into The Sun"”

Since: Sep 11

"But Im Running Behind"

#48722 Jan 17, 2014
I Own You Now wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate homosexuals. And so do tens of millions of others Americans I see. In Africa, homosexuals are put to death like they should be in the USA.
Ahhhh....But the majority of Americans now support marriage equality stupid ! Hows that make you feel being in the minority loser ? Seems you hate our Constitution huh ? Tell us all,what's it like to suffer from schizophrenia and anti-personality disorder ? Seek professional help before you hurt yourself or some innocent person,YOU are one sick puppy and that's a fact !

“Free your mind”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#48724 Jan 17, 2014
Earth Angel wrote:
that is the gay agenda - to force churches to allow gay marriages in churches where it is against their religion.
You better believe at some point they'll take this Methodist church to court saying gay marriages did occur there so therefore they should be allowed.
Its the gay agenda
and Dusty wouldn't admit to that
the other choice is the church's rights should be protected by having that the priest/pastor be defrocked and that gay marriage he preformed should be annulled.
and Dusty couldn't agree with that either
so Dusty does what he does best - duck the comment - blame me -
lie about answering it when he didn't
Would you please stop it??? WHY do you think gays want to force churches to marry them? There are churches out there that gladly marry gay couples, and that is where the ones who want a church marriage go. The rest go to the Justice of the Peace, just like a lot of heterosexual couples do. There IS NO AGENDA besides the fact of wanting EQUALITY. Stop being one of those people who judge a whole group of people by what a VERY SMALL number of them might do. My partner goes to church, it is one of the churches in town that allows everyone, including homosexuals. I am agnostic, so I do not go to any church. When we get married, neither she nor I will want a church wedding. We will go to a court house and have a JP do it. I WANT to be able to marry my partner. We have been together for 3 years, we love each other deeply. We are NOT defined by our sexuality. Yes, we hold hands in public, yes, I may kiss her (just a peck on the lips or cheek, not french) in public... but that is NO DIFFERENT than a heterosexual showing love and affection for their partner. There are people who will say that just because we are lesbians that we should not be allowed to show affection for each other. If that is true, no heterosexuals should be able to hold hands or kiss in public, either.

I am NOT defined by my sexuality. It is not about SEX, but about ATTRACTION. I am not attracted to males. I think male anatomy is GROSS. I think males being hairy is gross. I can't stand kissing someone with facial hair or whiskers... Are you heterosexual because you think about having sex with every woman you see? Or are you heterosexual because you find women attractive?(I am assuming you are a male, if not replace women with men).

Stereotyping is a bad thing... when stereotypes are applied, it keeps you from seeing people as individuals and just seeing them as a group. We are all individuals, all different.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48725 Jan 18, 2014
TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you please stop it??? WHY do you think gays want to force churches to marry them? There are churches out there that gladly marry gay couples, and that is where the ones who want a church marriage go. The rest go to the Justice of the Peace, just like a lot of heterosexual couples do. There IS NO AGENDA besides the fact of wanting EQUALITY. Stop being one of those people who judge a whole group of people by what a VERY SMALL number of them might do. My partner goes to church, it is one of the churches in town that allows everyone, including homosexuals. I am agnostic, so I do not go to any church. When we get married, neither she nor I will want a church wedding. We will go to a court house and have a JP do it. I WANT to be able to marry my partner. We have been together for 3 years, we love each other deeply. We are NOT defined by our sexuality. Yes, we hold hands in public, yes, I may kiss her (just a peck on the lips or cheek, not french) in public... but that is NO DIFFERENT than a heterosexual showing love and affection for their partner. There are people who will say that just because we are lesbians that we should not be allowed to show affection for each other. If that is true, no heterosexuals should be able to hold hands or kiss in public, either.
I am NOT defined by my sexuality. It is not about SEX, but about ATTRACTION. I am not attracted to males. I think male anatomy is GROSS. I think males being hairy is gross. I can't stand kissing someone with facial hair or whiskers... Are you heterosexual because you think about having sex with every woman you see? Or are you heterosexual because you find women attractive?(I am assuming you are a male, if not replace women with men).
Stereotyping is a bad thing... when stereotypes are applied, it keeps you from seeing people as individuals and just seeing them as a group. We are all individuals, all different.
welcome back Long time no see.
BTW isn't gurl the term used by crossdresser ? just asking because i really don't know for sure. Not trying to insult just want to know for sure.
yes i honestly do believe there is a gay agenda. Plenty of sites mention a gay agenda
whatever reason you run across its always to force accepting gays.
In this case not just for marriage but where to be married at.
and if you think the government is going to support the church guess again.
the came down against the nuns recently. Obama himself spoke against them. Look at how many times nativity scenes were taken down. Singing carols were stopped. etc. The church does not have a winning record.
Anyway back to my question
so you think the church should win this one. The priest/pastor ( it bothered Dusty so i say both ) should be defrocked and the gay marriage annulled ??? It seemed you were going that way in your answer. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48726 Jan 18, 2014
rabnew wrote:
When my sister wanted to get married, she found it difficult to find a church to marry her and her fiance` because he was a divorced Catholic. Not that he was Catholic, but rather a divorced Catholic. They found a lovely church to get married in and all was well. A non Catholic Church.
Now, having said that, nobody kicked up a fuss about the reasoning behind the church's decision not to marry them, because we respected their beliefs. I think, as a straight person, that if a church knocks back a gay marriage, then look elsewhere. Some church's will bless the gay marriage and some probably won't. They (in my opinion only) should not be 'forced' to acknowledge a union between two people if they feel it goes against their religious beliefs.
i had a strange experience too. My wife and grew up knowing each other same schools, church, friends etc So even though we both moved we wanted to get married in old church. We coax our retired pastor into accepting to do it. However the new pastor in that church refused since we no longer were members in that church. And also because he didn't want another pastor working his church. So we went to our church and got married there.
Anyway back to my question
it sounds like you too think that the church should have had the right to not have that marriage taken place there. Therefore that priest/pastor should be defrocked and the marriage annulled. Make them go elsewhere if they want to be married. Is that what you think ? Or did i get you wrong ? i want to be clear.. Please don't duck it by saying half is right. It won't work halfway.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48727 Jan 18, 2014
rabnew wrote:
<quoted text>
Another sick mofo....why should I kill myself? Because I'm straight? Because I'm female? Or because I voiced an opinion? I don't use a computer fuckstain!
welcome to my world. Best to just ignore that kind of hate.
responding to it only encourages it.( i should follow my own advice better )
i'm really glad you and i came to agree to stick to issues. I enjoy your responses because of it.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48728 Jan 18, 2014
Ace wrote:
I see it's impossible to have an intelligent conservation with the cumdumsters on this thread, so stick your finger up each others ass an have a good time. I'm out of here, and will take of business at the voting booth.
i'm missing you already. Please reconsider.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48729 Jan 18, 2014
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
In your opinion, but not in reality. Now, within every church, and denomination, everyone has free will. If some in a church believe that marrying a gay couples is Godly, and some don't, then they will have to work it out among themselves, or split off.
It's not like this is uncommon. There are thousands of Christian denominations for just this reason.
But a religious blessing is certainly not required for ANY marriage, and no one is forced to give one if they choose not to.
please read i really wrote and DON'T add things i never said.
for example i never said anywhere in my question that a religious blessing was required.
Nor did i imply anyone was forced to be married in a church.

it was about a particular religion that for the 2ND time had one of their churches forced unknowingly by its pastor/priest to perform a marriage that was totally against what that church wanted.
so my question is pick one
1 ) should the pastor/priest be defrocked and that marriage be annulled
2 ) if the marriage stands then pastor/priest be allowed to marry against that churches wishes. Hence the gay agenda. Forcing churches to have gay marriages allowed when its against their religion.
THERE IS NO OTHER REAL CHOICE HERE

and to define force ( since most of you can't seem to accept that )
force is anytime someone or some thing ( in this case the church ) does an act they clearly did not want to do or have done by them by someone else.
In this case the church had a marriage forced without their consent within their building by a priest/pastor who knew it was wrong to do so.

if i go into your house and do something when you didn't want me to its a force entry even if the door is unlocked and i did nothing more then watch tv
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48730 Jan 18, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Trolling. And really badly, I might add.
you're really upset that you can't answer this question
its ok Dusty i knew you wouldn't . You don't stand by your convictions. You never have.
Besides others have answered it. You're unimportant to the conversation.
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48731 Jan 18, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Forced? Forced by whom?...surely not the government. Aren't you forgetting about the 1st Amendment? You know: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?
more then once i've stated it as simple as i can.
see one of the posts above for how its FORCED onto that church.
and how it will be again forced on that church and any other churches that don't want gay marriages.
its really not that hard. Stop trying to mimic Dusty and think for yourself.
Destroy All Homosexuals

Prague, Czech Republic

#48732 Jan 18, 2014
TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you please stop it??? WHY do you think gays want to force churches to marry them? There are churches out there that gladly marry gay couples, and that is where the ones who want a church marriage go. The rest go to the Justice of the Peace, just like a lot of heterosexual couples do. There IS NO AGENDA besides the fact of wanting EQUALITY. Stop being one of those people who judge a whole group of people by what a VERY SMALL number of them might do. My partner goes to church, it is one of the churches in town that allows everyone, including homosexuals. I am agnostic, so I do not go to any church. When we get married, neither she nor I will want a church wedding. We will go to a court house and have a JP do it. I WANT to be able to marry my partner. We have been together for 3 years, we love each other deeply. We are NOT defined by our sexuality. Yes, we hold hands in public, yes, I may kiss her (just a peck on the lips or cheek, not french) in public... but that is NO DIFFERENT than a heterosexual showing love and affection for their partner. There are people who will say that just because we are lesbians that we should not be allowed to show affection for each other. If that is true, no heterosexuals should be able to hold hands or kiss in public, either.
I am NOT defined by my sexuality. It is not about SEX, but about ATTRACTION. I am not attracted to males. I think male anatomy is GROSS. I think males being hairy is gross. I can't stand kissing someone with facial hair or whiskers... Are you heterosexual because you think about having sex with every woman you see? Or are you heterosexual because you find women attractive?(I am assuming you are a male, if not replace women with men).
Stereotyping is a bad thing... when stereotypes are applied, it keeps you from seeing people as individuals and just seeing them as a group. We are all individuals, all different.
Eat sheet and die, you demon for satan!
Earth Angel

Kenosha, WI

#48733 Jan 18, 2014
obviously some here either really don't know or just want to confuse the subjects so i'll try and make a few of them clear.

1 ) this is a gay marriage thread therefore posting about a church that preformed a gay marriage is certainly on topic. Far more on topic then most of the posts in here.

2 ) gay agenda = at some point in time forcing churches to accept and preform gay weddings even though its against their religious beliefs.
They will achieve this in any way possible.
Probably way = If this marriage in this Methodist church stands then it sets a legal precedent. That even though a church is against gay marriage since its now been done it can be done again any time in any church.

3 ) force is anytime someone or some thing ( in this case the church ) does an act they clearly did not want to do or have done by them by someone else.
In this case the church had a marriage forced without their consent within their building by a priest/pastor who knew it was wrong to do so.

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