Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Xavier Breath

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I don't do ad hominem, I simply state obvious reality.
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OMFG! Are you kidding me? You think your ad hominem attacks aren't ad hominem because YOU think they are reality? You 'don't do ad hominem' and then you end your post with 'idiot?' Way to make yourself look like an illiterate fool.
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The whole purpose of separation of Church and state is to prevent what was present in Europe. A state sponsored Church. It was not to censor religion from public influence, something you are attempting to do. The Founding Fathers in fact EMBRACED religious influence in the public sector.
You went to public school and failed, right?
Are you embarrassed about what goes on in your bedroom?
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You didn't go to school, did you?

Separation of church and State has been very well defined by SCOTUS over the years. If you are attempting to push your religious beliefs into secular law, then what do you call that if not a State Church?. Why should your 'religion' get preference over any other?

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors."- Thomas Jefferson

"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."- Thomas Jefferson

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."- Ben Franklin

Why are you so curious about what goes on in my bedroom, you pervert? There's free porn all over the web for you to 'educate' yourself. Losing the taste for pussy, are ya?
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So your rights trump mine? Welcome to your liberal utopia.
Besides being a christo-fascist you're not to very bright now are you! LoL,I repeat one more time,your rights end where mine begin,simple isn't it? Keep your religion out of secular society and stop trying to force your beliefs on others who believe differently and we won't have a problem! Now I know you're incapable of even understanding this simple statement but who gives a flying F! Other freedom and Constitution loving Americans do and that's all that counts,and that's why you're losing when it comes to marriage equality and that's why you've already lost! Secular YES,Theocracy NO! D-U-H!

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Xavier Breath wrote:
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Really? What is a 'fact' about your faith? That's it's man-made? The Jesus story isn't even original. It's "borrowed." What is truly idiotic is that some people actually believe that shit. Of course, science has shown that people with lower than average IQs gravitate toward conservative, fundamentalist religion. No surprise.
Well, to start with, lets start with the start;

Genesis 1:1 is the first assertion of the Big Bang.

It includes human life being formed out of the earth, and first life being genderless.

And regarding the start of Jesus, the Virgin Birth is the first instance of an invitro procedure, something science did not achieve until 1943.

And at the start, there was the prediction that the Hebrews would be the only culture to maintain their identity in history WITH distinction in the end. This in spite of endless attempts to eradicate them. YOU should be aware of that! By the way, do you know the impact the Law has had on that identity?

Maybe you should check out conservative Christians to further your education. Just a thought.

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Xavier Breath wrote:
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Your opinion changes nothing. Gay couples can legally marry, whether you like it or not.
The Founding Fathers have been dead for two hundred years. They were EXTREMELY liberal in their own time. What makes you think they'd be rolling over in their graves? I know, I know. Because your entire existence is based on wishful thinking and speculation. Facts and science mean nothing, and when shown the error of your ways, you simply don't care that you are wrong. Sounds like low IQ to me.
Here is what hasn't changed;

Ss couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered halves of marriage.

Speaking of science, you might want to read to read some things about mating behavior and marriage like this;

http://www.psy.cmu.edu/~rakison/bussandschmit...

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OMFG! Are you kidding me? You think your ad hominem attacks aren't ad hominem because YOU think they are reality? You 'don't do ad hominem' and then you end your post with 'idiot?' Way to make yourself look like an illiterate fool.
No, they are not ad hominem attacks because the substance of our posts affirm them as fact.

You really are an idiot because of your hate and bitterness. I simply point it out. Over and over.

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You didn't go to school, did you?
Separation of church and State has been very well defined by SCOTUS over the years. If you are attempting to push your religious beliefs into secular law, then what do you call that if not a State Church?. Why should your 'religion' get preference over any other?
"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors."- Thomas Jefferson

"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."- Thomas Jefferson
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."- Ben Franklin
Why are you so curious about what goes on in my bedroom, you pervert? There's free porn all over the web for you to 'educate' yourself. Losing the taste for pussy, are ya?
Where am I trying to push my faith into secular law?

I'm simply saying that sodomy is medically harmful and unhealthy, and relationally degrading. And that marriage defines a distinct relationship in society based on the evolutionary science of mating behavior.

The real problem is the homosexual demand that science and reason be segregated from law, NOT the inclusion of religion!

Just a heads up, Ben and Tom do not represent the bulk of the Founding Fathers. In every community across our country there are scores and hundreds of churches serving their community with compassion and sacrifice. Your hateful bigotry is blinding you honey...

Finally, did you just assert that my orientation is changing?

And in an effort to insult me you call me a sodomite?

Interesting.

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I don't do ad hominem, I simply state obvious reality.
Idiot.
We all know how you operate here:

When you're a dick to someone, you're simply stating obvious reality.
When someone treats you badly, they're gay twirling and stating ad hominems.

You read like a cheap dime-store novel, Pastor Kirschmann. A really bad cheap novel.

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No, they are not ad hominem attacks because the substance of our posts affirm them as fact.
Yes, dear, we know. EVERYONE who disagrees with you uses ad hominem "attacks" against you.

Delusional paranoid troll, party of one, your padded cell is ready.

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Dusty Mangina wrote:
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We all know how you operate here:
When you're a dick to someone, you're simply stating obvious reality.
When someone treats you badly, they're gay twirling and stating ad hominems.
You read like a cheap dime-store novel, Pastor Kirschmann. A really bad cheap novel.
Do you ever have a response of substance? You denial and ad homoan attacks are tiresome and boring.

You don't speak for everyone Dick, never will.

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Where am I trying to push my faith into secular law?
I'm simply saying that sodomy is medically harmful and unhealthy, and relationally degrading. And that marriage defines a distinct relationship in society based on the evolutionary science of mating behavior.
The real problem is the homosexual demand that science and reason be segregated from law, NOT the inclusion of religion!
Just a heads up, Ben and Tom do not represent the bulk of the Founding Fathers. In every community across our country there are scores and hundreds of churches serving their community with compassion and sacrifice. Your hateful bigotry is blinding you honey...
Finally, did you just assert that my orientation is changing?
And in an effort to insult me you call me a sodomite?
Interesting.
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LMAO...Now why would anyone suspect a guy who attended a theology school and spent 30 years of his life as a pastor of having a theocratic agenda? Why would anyone suspect a guy who apparently thinks about little else (17,500+ posts) of being a bubble or two off plumb? Who would ever dream that a guy who believes women haven't evolved to lead would be mired in archaic thought? How could anyone draw the conclusion that a guy who routinely equates sodomy to same-sex marriage fancies himself in a position to preach to others what should and should not be acceptable (and legal) bedroom behavior? Greg, why is this issue of such vital importance to you, personally? What was it that inspired your crusade? Why do you devote as much time and energy as you do to this? I can't be the only one who'd be fascinated by your answers to these simple questions.

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Where am I trying to push my faith into secular law?
I'm simply saying that sodomy is medically harmful and unhealthy, and relationally degrading. And that marriage defines a distinct relationship in society based on the evolutionary science of mating behavior.
The real problem is the homosexual demand that science and reason be segregated from law, NOT the inclusion of religion!
Just a heads up, Ben and Tom do not represent the bulk of the Founding Fathers. In every community across our country there are scores and hundreds of churches serving their community with compassion and sacrifice. Your hateful bigotry is blinding you honey...
Finally, did you just assert that my orientation is changing?
And in an effort to insult me you call me a sodomite?
Interesting.
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<quoted text>LMAO...Now why would anyone suspect a guy who attended a theology school and spent 30 years of his life as a pastor of having a theocratic agenda? Why would anyone suspect a guy who apparently thinks about little else (17,500+ posts) of being a bubble or two off plumb? Who would ever dream that a guy who believes women haven't evolved to lead would be mired in archaic thought? How could anyone draw the conclusion that a guy who routinely equates sodomy to same-sex marriage fancies himself in a position to preach to others what should and should not be acceptable (and legal) bedroom behavior? Greg, why is this issue of such vital importance to you, personally? What was it that inspired your crusade? Why do you devote as much time and energy as you do to this? I can't be the only one who'd be fascinated by your answers to these simple questions.
So when I present the evidence of medical and scientific fact, my faith deletes the validity of those facts?

You have an insurmountable problem.

Science and faith agree on the oxymoron of ss marriage. You have to ignore science and denigrate faith in the vain attempt to excuse the inexcusable.

Moreover, we are talking about the most important relationship of society, marriage, and the most vulnerable member of society, children. My concern equates to the most esteemed defenders of humanity in human history. You are regulated to defending the sexual abuse of another person and the idiotic attempt to equate a sterile duplicate half with the historic cross cultural practice of marriage.

You are welcome to wallow in your perverted denial. However when you seek to impose your delusions and perversion on society, moral and reasoned citizens stand up and say no.

That is the simple answer to your simpleton question.

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Where am I trying to push my faith into secular law?
I'm simply saying that sodomy is medically harmful and unhealthy, and relationally degrading. And that marriage defines a distinct relationship in society based on the evolutionary science of mating behavior.
The real problem is the homosexual demand that science and reason be segregated from law, NOT the inclusion of religion!
Just a heads up, Ben and Tom do not represent the bulk of the Founding Fathers. In every community across our country there are scores and hundreds of churches serving their community with compassion and sacrifice. Your hateful bigotry is blinding you honey...
Finally, did you just assert that my orientation is changing?
And in an effort to insult me you call me a sodomite?
Interesting.
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So when I present the evidence of medical and scientific fact, my faith deletes the validity of those facts?
You have an insurmountable problem.
Science and faith agree on the oxymoron of ss marriage. You have to ignore science and denigrate faith in the vain attempt to excuse the inexcusable.
Moreover, we are talking about the most important relationship of society, marriage, and the most vulnerable member of society, children. My concern equates to the most esteemed defenders of humanity in human history. You are regulated to defending the sexual abuse of another person and the idiotic attempt to equate a sterile duplicate half with the historic cross cultural practice of marriage.
You are welcome to wallow in your perverted denial. However when you seek to impose your delusions and perversion on society, moral and reasoned citizens stand up and say no.
That is the simple answer to your simpleton question.
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Somehow I missed the "medical and scientific fact" that should trump constitutional rights. You love saying you've presented evidence. Evidence of what? Same-sex attraction has existed for as long as our species. Does it play a role in procreative mating behavior? No. Does the fact that a same-sex couple cannot conventionally create offspring invalidate their need for companionship and love? No. Please feel free to cite evidence that supports the notion that people who are attracted to people of their same gender should be subject to a different set of laws. This should, as always, be very entertaining.

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<quoted text>Somehow I missed the "medical and scientific fact" that should trump constitutional rights. You love saying you've presented evidence. Evidence of what? Same-sex attraction has existed for as long as our species. Does it play a role in procreative mating behavior? No. Does the fact that a same-sex couple cannot conventionally create offspring invalidate their need for companionship and love? No. Please feel free to cite evidence that supports the notion that people who are attracted to people of their same gender should be subject to a different set of laws. This should, as always, be very entertaining.
You missed nothing. You ignore it and demand that the 98% of married couples that could procreate capitulate to ss couples who can NEVER mutually procreate.

You disqualify every distinction between ss couples and marriage except the number of people, you ignore the medical violation of design, you desecrate and trample on religious and cultural traditions, you censor the distinction that evolutionary science clearly distinguishes, and then turn around demand all the rights and privileges based on those very distinctions.

I simply point of the idiocy of that foolish attempt by the refusal of reality to adjust to your deception and denial.

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Eusebius said that it is lawful to lie and cheat for the cause of Christ: "I have repeated whatever may rebound to the glory, and suppressed all that could tend to the disgrace of our religion" (Chp. 31, Book 12 of Prae Paratio Evangelica).

Eusebius is one of Christ-insanities greatest teachers and KiMare has carried on the tradition of lying and deceiving for Jesus.

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<quoted text>LMAO...Now why would anyone suspect a guy who attended a theology school and spent 30 years of his life as a pastor of having a theocratic agenda? Why would anyone suspect a guy who apparently thinks about little else (17,500+ posts) of being a bubble or two off plumb? Who would ever dream that a guy who believes women haven't evolved to lead would be mired in archaic thought? How could anyone draw the conclusion that a guy who routinely equates sodomy to same-sex marriage fancies himself in a position to preach to others what should and should not be acceptable (and legal) bedroom behavior? Greg, why is this issue of such vital importance to you, personally? What was it that inspired your crusade? Why do you devote as much time and energy as you do to this? I can't be the only one who'd be fascinated by your answers to these simple questions.
Nicely said. I suspect that KiMare is in prison and has nothing to do all day long except try to make good decent normal people feel worse than he does.
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Funny...I was about to say the same about you.
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Nicely said. I suspect that KiMare is in prison and has nothing to do all day long except try to make good decent normal people feel worse than he does.
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No PROS all CONS. SS marriage =wrong.
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No PROS only CONS. SS marriage=Wrong.
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No PROS only CONS. SS marriage=Wrong.
Maybe for you. But basic human rights is a pro.

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