Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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American Sociological Association said the following about the Regnerus study in its Supreme Court brief (pgs. 26-29):
"First, the Regnerus study does not specifically examine children born or adopted into same-sex parent families, but instead examines children who, from the time they were born until they were 18 or moved out, had a parent who at any time had “a same-sex romantic relationship.” As Regnerus noted, the majority of the individuals characterized by him as children of “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers” were the offspring of failed opposite- sex unions whose parent subsequently had a same-sex relationship. In other words, Regnerus did not study or analyze the children of two same-sex parents.
Second, when the Regnerus study compared the children of parents who at one point had a “same-sex romantic relationship,” most of whom had experienced a family dissolution or single motherhood, to children raised by two biological, married opposite-sex parents, the study stripped away all divorced, single, and stepparent families from the opposite-sex group, leaving only stable, married, opposite-sex families as the comparison... Thus, it was hardly surprising that the opposite-sex group had better outcomes given that stability is a key predictor of positive child wellbeing. By so doing, the Regnerus study makes inappropriate apples-to-oranges comparisons.
Third, Regnerus’s first published analysis of his research data failed to consider whether the children lived with, or were raised by, the parent who was, at some point, apparently involved in “a romantic...l’s adult life, particularly given that the vast majority (thirty-seven of forty) of the outcomes measured were adult and not childhood outcomes. Factors other than same-sex parenting are likely to explain these negative outcomes in the Regnerus study. Regnerus himself concludes that “I am thus not suggesting that growing up with a lesbian mother or gay father causes suboptimal outcomes because of the sexual orientation or sexual behavior of the parent.”
In sum, by conflating (1) children raised by same-sex parents with (2) individuals who reportedly had a parent who had “a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex,” and referring to such individuals as children of “lesbian mothers” or “gay fathers,” the Regnerus study obscures the fact that it did not specifically examine children raised by two same-sex parents. Accordingly, it cannot speak to the impact of same-sex parenting on child outcomes."
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_scie...
don_t_let_criticism_of_the_new _gay_parents_study_become_a_wa r_on_science.html

"Mark Regnerus is a hateful bigot. He’s an ultra-conservative with links to Opus Dei. His new research paper on same-sex parenting is “intentionally misleading” and “seeks to disparage lesbian and gay parents.” His “so-called study doesn’t match 30 years of scientific research that shows overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who are LGBT do equally as well.” His “junk science” and “pseudo-scientific misinformation,” pitted against statements from the American Psychological Association and “every major child welfare organization,” deserve no coverage or credence.

That’s what four of the nation’s leading gay-rights groups—the Human Rights Campaign, the Family Equality Council, Freedom to Marry, and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation —declared in a joint statement this week. Flanked by a mob of bloggers, they’re out to attack Regnerus’ motives, destroy his credibility, and banish his study from the scientific record. Even Slate contributor E.J. Graff says “Slate's editors should be ashamed” for publishing Regnerus’“dangerous propaganda.”
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You got a point there toolman HA HA HA!
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<quoted text>With a name like "neil an blowme" You love a man's mouth wrapped around your dixk.lol.
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lickmytool wrote:
<quoted text>With a name like "neil an blowme" You love a man's mouth wrapped around your dixk.lol.
...and what does lickmytool mean?

You're such a dumbass.
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KiMare wrote:
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I've read what you posted before you posted it.
What you are trying to deliberately cover is that the committee VINDICATED Regnerus!
Read this and gnash your teeth reprobate;
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/10/678...
"How many children were raised by two women staying together from the child’s first birthday to his or her eighteenth? Just two. And how many such cases were there in the FGR category—of children raised by two men together for their whole childhood? Zero. This, out of an initial population of 15,000.
I recite these numbers to make a point of my own that fairly leaps off the pages of Regnerus’s work: that family instability is the characteristic experience of those whose parents have same-sex relationships. This is what Regnerus is getting at when he says that critics who want him to treat stability as a “control variable” are actually “controlling for the pathways.” To go on an endless search for a sizable random sample of long-term, stable same-sex couples raising children is to miss the social reality in front of us, namely that they are conspicuously missing from the lives of children whose parents have same-sex relationships."
Smirk.
You are funny. Regnerus' study proved no such thing.

Damn, you hicks are STOOPID!
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You got a point there toolman HA HA HA!
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I guess lickmytool means put your tongue on a wrench, eh? You phobes are too stupid.
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KiMare wrote:
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_scie...
don_t_let_criticism_of_the_new _gay_parents_study_become_a_wa r_on_science.html
"Mark Regnerus is a hateful bigot. He’s an ultra-conservative with links to Opus Dei. His new research paper on same-sex parenting is “intentionally misleading” and “seeks to disparage lesbian and gay parents.” His “so-called study doesn’t match 30 years of scientific research that shows overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who are LGBT do equally as well.” His “junk science” and “pseudo-scientific misinformation,” pitted against statements from the American Psychological Association and “every major child welfare organization,” deserve no coverage or credence.
That’s what four of the nation’s leading gay-rights groups—the Human Rights Campaign, the Family Equality Council, Freedom to Marry, and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation —declared in a joint statement this week. Flanked by a mob of bloggers, they’re out to attack Regnerus’ motives, destroy his credibility, and banish his study from the scientific record. Even Slate contributor E.J. Graff says “Slate's editors should be ashamed” for publishing Regnerus’“dangerous propaganda.”
Thanks for giving us proof that your views are of the lunatic fringe.
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Well blow me down...he used the "P" word. Run away Run away...
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How dumb can this Neil get?
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I guess lickmytool means put your tongue on a wrench, eh? You phobes are too stupid.
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Well blow me down...he used the "P" word. Run away Run away...
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I'd have to be lobotomized to be as dumb as you, closet boy.

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Neil An Blowme wrote:
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Thanks for giving us proof that your views are of the lunatic fringe.
Yeah, that's what the Slate article proved, lol.
You are such a depraved idiot.
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Don't you need a brain to be lobotomized?
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I'd have to be lobotomized to be as dumb as you, closet boy.
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Yeah, that's what the Slate article proved, lol.
You are such a depraved idiot.
.... said the lunatic fringe, KiMerde. Oh boy! YOUR opinion has value..... You even post quotes that PROVE you are a lunatic.... gotta love it!
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Neil An Blowme wrote:
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...and what does lickmytool mean?
You're such a dumbass.
Get out from under the rock or get out of your cave. And learn something fool. tool is another name for a mans dixk. And if you had one you would know his.lol
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<quoted text> Get out from under the rock or get out of your cave. And learn something fool. tool is another name for a mans dixk. And if you had one you would know his.lol
Duh. Ever hear of sarcasm, numbnuts? What's the difference between our chosen names, dipshit? You called me out, yet your name means exactly the same damn thing.
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Duh. Ever hear of sarcasm, numbnuts? What's the difference between our chosen names, dipshit? You called me out, yet your name means exactly the same damn thing.
Neil an blowme. Is that what your dad said to you ?

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The demand for ss couples to be equated to marriage is that children be removed from consideration to equate ss couples to marriage, and mother and father be removed to equate ss couples to family.

And that is good and right?

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The demand for ss couples to be equated to marriage is that children be removed from consideration to equate ss couples to marriage, and mother and father be removed to equate ss couples to family.
And that is good and right?
You're the only person making that demand, Dilbert.

The rest of us know that children are not REQUIRED of marriage.

You're argument is lame, tired, and so busted.

Troll on, KiMerde.

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<quoted text>Neil an blowme. Is that what your dad said to you ?
Hey, hey, hey! Why must you assume that his father was anything like yours?

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Some opposite sex couples will still continue to reproduce, and get married. Treating same sex couples equally under all of the same laws won't change that. Children and parents will still form families.

"Although the House Report is filled with encomia to heterosexual marriage, DOMA does not increase benefits to opposite-sex couples--whose marriages may in any event be childless, unstable or both--or explain how denying benefits to same-sex couples will reinforce heterosexual marriage. Certainly, the denial will not affect the gender choices of those seeking marriage. This is not merely a matter of poor fit of remedy to perceived problem, Lee Optical, 348 U.S. at 487-88; City of Cleburne, 473 U.S. at 446-50, but a lack of any demonstrated connection between DOMA's treatment of same-sex couples and its asserted goal of strengthening the bonds and benefits to society of heterosexual marriage." First Circuit Appellate

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The demand for ss couples to be equated to marriage is that children be removed from consideration to equate ss couples to marriage, and mother and father be removed to equate ss couples to family.
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You're the only person making that demand, Dilbert.
The rest of us know that children are not REQUIRED of marriage.
You're argument is lame, tired, and so busted.
Troll on, KiMerde.
Read what I wrote again.

"The DEMAND... is that children be removed from CONSIDERATION"

How horrible, isn't it. Kids are thrown under the bus for your denial.

Oh, you forgot the other half;

"The demand for ss couples to be equated to marriage is that... mother and father be removed to equate ss couples to family."

You throw your mother and father under the bus too!

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Some opposite sex couples will still continue to reproduce, and get married. Treating same sex couples equally under all of the same laws won't change that. Children and parents will still form families.
"Although the House Report is filled with encomia to heterosexual marriage, DOMA does not increase benefits to opposite-sex couples--whose marriages may in any event be childless, unstable or both--or explain how denying benefits to same-sex couples will reinforce heterosexual marriage. Certainly, the denial will not affect the gender choices of those seeking marriage. This is not merely a matter of poor fit of remedy to perceived problem, Lee Optical, 348 U.S. at 487-88; City of Cleburne, 473 U.S. at 446-50, but a lack of any demonstrated connection between DOMA's treatment of same-sex couples and its asserted goal of strengthening the bonds and benefits to society of heterosexual marriage." First Circuit Appellate
http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl...
The demand for ss couples to be equated to marriage is that children be removed from consideration to equate ss couples to marriage, and mother and father be removed to equate ss couples to family.

And that is good and right?

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