Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Until you try it you'll never understand.

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Butkus wrote:
Until you try it you'll never understand.
Are we talking about ObamaNation or anal sex.

Is there a difference?
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I go a step deeper;
Ss couples prevent children from enjoying both a mother and father. Even if they are default.
children need a mother and father. Having same sex parents is so wrong.
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<quoted text>children need a mother and father. Having same sex parents is so wrong.
Did you have gay parents?

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Did you have gay parents?
No one has gay parents.
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To say the least Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman.
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ya the hell with all that its adam and eve NOT steve and steve. we werent made to be pounding other dudes booty holes if yall into that go to the joint and I'm sure plenty of guys will pound ya out hoooooooomooooos

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KiMare wrote:
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I go a step deeper;
Ss couples prevent children from enjoying both a mother and father. Even if they are default.
Not all couples who marry will choose to or are even capable of having children. Children are not a requirement for marriage to remain a fundamental right of all individuals. Gender fails as a legitimate restriction.

When a child is adopted by a same sex couple, they are afforded two parents who want them, rather than being deprived of one or two parents. When born into a same sex marriage, they are also afforded two parents. Your artificial gender requirement is no guarantee they will have parents who care about them. It often means they will have one or two parents who don't want them, resent them, beat, torture and even kill them. Gender of the parent is no guarantee of survival, let alone good parents.

(Hawaii supreme court testamony): Dr Eggebeen (witness against marriage equality) also conceded that "gay and lesbian couples can , and do, make excellent parents" "that they are capable of raising a healthy child", and "that children of same sex couples would be helped if their families had access to or were able to receive benefits of marriage".

Dr. Charlotte Patterson: there was "no data or research which establishes that gay fathers and lesbian mothers are less capable of being good parents than non-gay people.

Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.

Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child."
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Just this week I witnessed a same sex couple break up. It is NOT turning out well for the kids involve.
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Not all couples who marry will choose to or are even capable of having children. Children are not a requirement for marriage to remain a fundamental right of all individuals. Gender fails as a legitimate restriction.
When a child is adopted by a same sex couple, they are afforded two parents who want them, rather than being deprived of one or two parents. When born into a same sex marriage, they are also afforded two parents. Your artificial gender requirement is no guarantee they will have parents who care about them. It often means they will have one or two parents who don't want them, resent them, beat, torture and even kill them. Gender of the parent is no guarantee of survival, let alone good parents.
(Hawaii supreme court testamony): Dr Eggebeen (witness against marriage equality) also conceded that "gay and lesbian couples can , and do, make excellent parents" "that they are capable of raising a healthy child", and "that children of same sex couples would be helped if their families had access to or were able to receive benefits of marriage".
Dr. Charlotte Patterson: there was "no data or research which establishes that gay fathers and lesbian mothers are less capable of being good parents than non-gay people.
Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.
Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child."

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Not all couples who marry will choose to or are even capable of having children. Children are not a requirement for marriage to remain a fundamental right of all individuals. Gender fails as a legitimate restriction.
When a child is adopted by a same sex couple, they are afforded two parents who want them, rather than being deprived of one or two parents. When born into a same sex marriage, they are also afforded two parents. Your artificial gender requirement is no guarantee they will have parents who care about them. It often means they will have one or two parents who don't want them, resent them, beat, torture and even kill them. Gender of the parent is no guarantee of survival, let alone good parents.
(Hawaii supreme court testamony): Dr Eggebeen (witness against marriage equality) also conceded that "gay and lesbian couples can , and do, make excellent parents" "that they are capable of raising a healthy child", and "that children of same sex couples would be helped if their families had access to or were able to receive benefits of marriage".
Dr. Charlotte Patterson: there was "no data or research which establishes that gay fathers and lesbian mothers are less capable of being good parents than non-gay people.
Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.
Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child."
Still trying to equate a married couple who chooses not to have a child with a SS couple who can NEVER have a child?

Get real honey

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Just this week I witnessed a same sex couple break up. It is NOT turning out well for the kids involve.
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Just this week, thousands of opposite sex parents were reported to Child Protective Services for physical abuse, sexual abuse, and neglect of their own children. That does not include the unreported cases. Having one parent of each gender is no guarantee the child will be wanted, let alone survive.

While not all same sex parents will be great parents, the difference is that they are always motivated to be parents, while opposite sex parents are often not motivated and sometimes resentful. Others simply have no idea of how to be a good parent and repeat the abuses of their own parents. Again, over 30 years of research and clinical experience has revealed the relationship between the parent and child is the determining variable for healthy adjustment, not the gender of the parent.

Again; Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.

Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child." (Hawaii Supreme Court testamony)

Additionally; "The nation's most influential pediatrician's group has endorsed gay marriage, saying a stable relationship between parents regardless of sexual orientation contributes to a child's health and well-being.
The American Academy of Pediatrics' new policy, published online Thursday, cites research showing that the parents' sexual orientation has no effect on a child's development. Kids fare just as well in gay or straight families when they are nurturing and financially and emotionally stable, the academy says."

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/...

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Still trying to equate a married couple who chooses not to have a child with a SS couple who can NEVER have a child?
Get real honey
Many opposite sex couples can never have a child.

They are allowed to get married despite that fact, as procreation has never been a requirement for marriage in any state or by the federal government. Even anti-gay Justice Scalia recognizes this fact of law. The elderly or otherwise sterile, paralyzed, amputated, or otherwise incapable of even having sex, are still recognized as retaining the fundamental right of marriage.

Your personal requirement of procreation ability in order to get married is your personal prejudice, not a requirement of law. Apply it to yourself if you choose, but the law does not impose it on anyone.

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"But even if Congress believed at the time of DOMA's passage that children had the best chance at success if raised jointly by their biological mothers and fathers, a desire to encourage heterosexual couples to procreate and rear their own children more responsibly would not provide a rational basis for denying federal recognition to same-sex marriages. Such denial does nothing to promote stability in heterosexual parenting. Rather, it "prevents children of same-sex couples from enjoying the immeasurable advantages that flow from the assurance of a stable family structure, when afforded equal recognition under federal law." (Gill)

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Just this week, thousands of opposite sex parents were reported to Child Protective Services for physical abuse, sexual abuse, and neglect of their own children. That does not include the unreported cases. Having one parent of each gender is no guarantee the child will be wanted, let alone survive.
While not all same sex parents will be great parents, the difference is that they are always motivated to be parents, while opposite sex parents are often not motivated and sometimes resentful. Others simply have no idea of how to be a good parent and repeat the abuses of their own parents. Again, over 30 years of research and clinical experience has revealed the relationship between the parent and child is the determining variable for healthy adjustment, not the gender of the parent.
Again; Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.
Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child." (Hawaii Supreme Court testamony)
Additionally; "The nation's most influential pediatrician's group has endorsed gay marriage, saying a stable relationship between parents regardless of sexual orientation contributes to a child's health and well-being.
The American Academy of Pediatrics' new policy, published online Thursday, cites research showing that the parents' sexual orientation has no effect on a child's development. Kids fare just as well in gay or straight families when they are nurturing and financially and emotionally stable, the academy says."
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/...
Politically correct BS at the expense of children. Biological parents are statistically better by far.
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Do as you please and say as you please. There is one born FACT gays and same sex marriage will burn in hell forever. Leviticus 18:22

Get your life right with God or pay for it the hard way at the end of time. And that time is coming real soon people. Don't let the devil make a fool out of you get right or else....
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The Preacherman i BET YOU WOULD LIKE TO BANG MY BOOTY HOLE?

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KiMare wrote:
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Politically correct BS at the expense of children. Biological parents are statistically better by far.
No one is prevented from having biological children by treating same sex couples equally under the marriage laws. Those so inclined will continue to do so, whether married or not.

Children are not required for marriage. They benefit from having married parents, but many couples cannot have children, while others have no desire. Children of same sex parent families do just as well.

Adoption studies have reinforced the findings that the most important variable is the relationship between the parent and child. Not gender, not biology. Quality of nurturing relationship is the most important factor.

Common sense, common observation, should make this finding of research and clinical observation, self evident.

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No one is prevented from having biological children by treating same sex couples equally under the marriage laws. Those so inclined will continue to do so, whether married or not.
Children are not required for marriage. They benefit from having married parents, but many couples cannot have children, while others have no desire. Children of same sex parent families do just as well.
Adoption studies have reinforced the findings that the most important variable is the relationship between the parent and child. Not gender, not biology. Quality of nurturing relationship is the most important factor.
Common sense, common observation, should make this finding of research and clinical observation, self evident.
There are NO legitimate studies of lesbian couples compared to hetero couples. There are NO studies of gay couples parenting.

Common sense should tell you that a child needs and deserves both genders parenting.

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Common sense should tell you that a child needs and deserves both genders parenting.
Two SS adults can be as nurturing to a child as two adults of opposite gender.

What role do adult genitals serve in parenting?

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Two SS adults can be as nurturing to a child as two adults of opposite gender.
What role do adult genitals serve in parenting?
'Adult genitals'?

That's how you view parenting?

And you see no distinction between a father and mother? Wonder how your parents feel getting thrown under the bus...

You only prove why SS couples are unqualified to be parents.

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