Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 Full story: CBS2 51,304

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Since: Jun 11

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#37859 Feb 21, 2013
Each individual is free to attach any meaning they choose, to their own marriage.

But from a legal perspective, marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual.

The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human. We hold these truths to be self evident.

Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Gender restrictions vary among states, and serve no legitimate governmental interest.

While churches may place any restrictions they choose on their own ceremonies, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.

Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Sterile and non sexual people are allowed to marry and do so frequently. Many second, third, ect., marriages include sterile people.

Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides no benefit to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.

As Justice Kennedy wrote about the founding fathers: "They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress."

Laws that treat gay people less than equal to straight people are laws that only serve to oppress. It is time to overcome the prejudices we were taught as children and stop harming our neighbors and family members by passing laws that dehumanize and harm gay citizens through denial of the legal equality promised in the founding documents and required by the 5th and 14th amendments to the constitution.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37860 Feb 21, 2013
TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
Marriage equality is going to happen nationwide whether you like it or not. And... I am still happily living with my gf. Nothing you can do to stop my relationship or my happiness.
Notice too, the attempt to demonize all gay people, ignoring that the female half of the gay population is the lowest risk group for HIV, most men are not infected, and that more straight people are infected worldwide.

Disease transmission information demonstrates the value of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.

It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.

But just as it was used in the past to support inter-racial segregation, it fails to provide a legitimate governmental justification for denial of equal treatment under the law.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37861 Feb 21, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Each individual is free to attach any meaning they choose, to their own marriage.
Yes, and their own gender, and their own race, and their own IQ. The list goes on.

However, in each case, reality trumps meaningless assignments of meaning.

At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Gay couples are a defective contradiction to the very core goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.

Your attempt to impose an imposter relationship on marriage is a corruption of reality, nature, culture, religions, society and law.

Smile.
the fact king

Terre Haute, IN

#37862 Feb 21, 2013
Im gay and no one loves me in coles county
Big Boob Babe

Alpharetta, GA

#37864 Feb 21, 2013
Andrew Singer wrote:
<quoted text>
That is because you spend all your time trying to jack all of your neighbors' 10-year-old boys and wiener dogs!! Sheesh, factless... Are you THAT DENSE???
You're a secret admirer? How sweet!
It Gets Better

Alpharetta, GA

#37865 Feb 21, 2013
the fact king wrote:
Im gay and no one loves me in coles county
One of the things the ACLU will do while they are working your school district is to set up GSA clubs (Gay/Straight Alliance Clubs)
.
You will find love

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37867 Feb 21, 2013
Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Sterile and non sexual people are allowed to marry and do so frequently. Many second, third, ect., marriages include sterile people.

Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides no benefit to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.

"The Court finds that neither Congress' claimed legislative justifications nor any of the proposed reasons proffered by BLAG constitute bases rationally related to any of the alleged governmental interests. Further, after concluding that neither the law nor the record can sustain any of the interests suggested, the Court, having tried on its own, cannot conceive of any additional interests that DOMA might further."

"Prejudice, we are beginning to understand, rises not from malice or hostile animus alone. It may result as well from insensitivity caused by simple want of careful, rational reflection or from some instinctive mechanism to guard against people who appear to be different in some respects from ourselves."

Conclusion: DOMA, as it relates to Golinski's case, "violates her right to equal protection of the law under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution" (Golinski.)

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37868 Feb 21, 2013
yikes wrote:
google it: what's #1 on the list.....on every list.
<quoted text>
Odd, not according to Merriam-Webster:

1.a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37869 Feb 22, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Odd, not according to Merriam-Webster:
1.a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
I noticed you pick an 'updated' for political correctness resource...

Here is a more balanced view from Widipedia;

"Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a social union or legal contract between people called spouses that establishes rights and obligations between the spouses, between the spouses and their children, and between the spouses and their in-laws.[1] The definition of marriage varies according to different cultures, but it is principally an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged. When defined broadly, marriage is considered a cultural universal. In many cultures, marriage is formalized via a wedding ceremony. In terms of legal recognition, most sovereign states and other jurisdictions limit marriage to opposite sex couples or two persons of opposite gender in the gender binary, and some of these allow polygynous marriage. Since 2000, several countries and some other jurisdictions have legalized same-sex marriage. In some cultures, marriage is recommended or compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity."

However, from a purely scientific view point;

At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples are incapable of mating.

Moreover, the social acceptance of raising children apart from their biological children has resulted in a dramatic decline in marriage, only further exposing the relationship between marriage and children.

You are incapable of addressing these facts, and instead childishly demand I not talk to you.

Sorry.

Smile.

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Beacon, NY

#37870 Feb 22, 2013
Mary wrote:
Marriage is a sacrament between a man and a woman
Not any more! So sorry,live with it or be a hateful faux Christian for the rest of your life all the while going against the teachings of Christ!

Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#37871 Feb 22, 2013
fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Our country was founded "under God". It even says so in our pledge of allegiance, you know the thing they make kids recite every day at the start of school.........
Wasn't that line ADDED in the 50"s?

“"And Stay Off"”

Since: May 12

Tempe Arizona

#37872 Feb 22, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't that line ADDED in the 50"s?
Why yes it was! Same with the "In God we trust" on our dollar bills and coined also! I bet the author of the pledge is rolling over in his grave at the way they butcherd his pledge with out his permission! It was done during the Eisenhower administration and was ram rodded through by a group of fundamentalist Christians! Fact! LOL

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37873 Feb 22, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't that line ADDED in the 50"s?
Yes. The push by religious factions to add "under God" became popular during the McCarthey era of anti-gay, anti-communist fear mongering. It was officially added in 1954.

In 1951 and 1952, the Knights of Columbus adopted resolutions incorporating the new "under God" language into the recitation of the pledge at their various meetings.

"The Presbyterian Reverend George M. Docherty, who counted then-President Eisenhower among his congregation, was seen as influential in pushing the change." [Source: Slate.com ]

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37874 Feb 22, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't that line ADDED in the 50"s?
I find it ironic that it was added just before the word "indivisible", and yet is itself a divisive addition.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37875 Feb 22, 2013
The law trumps personal beliefs about what marriage is, has been, or should be.

Legally, marriage it is a fundamental right of all persons.

The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.

Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Within those limits, gay people qualify. Gender restrictions have been shown to be irrational and harmful.

Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate excuse for denial of equal treatment under the law. Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted.

Denial of equal treatment under the law provides no benefit to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.
observation

Saint Louis, MO

#37877 Feb 22, 2013
I keep seeing "the government must treat all people equally"..........that statement is both untrue and
unrealistic.
There is NOTHING fair about life.
Mojo

Chicago, IL

#37878 Feb 22, 2013
observation wrote:
I keep seeing "the government must treat all people equally"..........that statement is both untrue and
unrealistic.
There is NOTHING fair about life.
Hahahah what nonsense. Life does not treat all people equally, that doesn't mean the government doesn't have to.

You could justify the worst of crimes with that logic.
observation

Saint Louis, MO

#37879 Feb 22, 2013
The government DOES NOT treat all equally.
Grow up!
Mojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahah what nonsense. Life does not treat all people equally, that doesn't mean the government doesn't have to.
You could justify the worst of crimes with that logic.
Mojo

Chicago, IL

#37880 Feb 22, 2013
observation wrote:
The government DOES NOT treat all equally.
Grow up!
<quoted text>
You're right, and they should. I don't get you're point.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37882 Feb 22, 2013
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Discriminate?
Oh look, Kimare's sock puppet is back. Someone said something to piss her off, so she dragged out CHL (Drool Gland Puke).

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