Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

There are 20 comments on the CBS2 story from Nov 30, 2010, titled Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions. In it, CBS2 reports that:

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37841 Feb 21, 2013
Mojo wrote:
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That isn't the opinion. The opinion I was getting from you was that gay marriage is somehow invalid because marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
And I was going to avoid making the whole "homosexuality in nature" arguement but you've sucked me into it -
Homosexuality is an evolutionary mating behaviour in some way. Not a productive one, not one that makes sense evolutionarily, but theres no denying that many animals in nature have homosexual mating tendancies.
And marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior, is it not?
You'll soon learn that logical thought and response are not Kimare's expectations. He's merely here to be an ass-troll.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37842 Feb 21, 2013
AnnieSprinkle wrote:
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Are you going to address anything else I said? Or just argue semantics and make references to horrible TV shows? Also, I am a sexual educator and a damn good one. No one leaves any of my lessons thinking anal sex is demeaning, that's for damn sure.
Oh sit on it!

There, that addressed your comment.

Bazinga!
Mary

Wilmington, IL

#37843 Feb 21, 2013
Marriage is a sacrament between a man and a woman

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37844 Feb 21, 2013
Mojo wrote:
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That isn't the opinion. The opinion I was getting from you was that gay marriage is somehow invalid because marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
And I was going to avoid making the whole "homosexuality in nature" arguement but you've sucked me into it -
Homosexuality is an evolutionary mating behaviour in some way. Not a productive one, not one that makes sense evolutionarily, but theres no denying that many animals in nature have homosexual mating tendancies.
And marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior, is it not?
'Mating behavior' signifies procreation. When that doesn't ever occur, it is not mating behavior.

Scientists use the term 'same sex sexual behavior' instead of homosexuality when speaking of animals because most often the behavior has nothing to do with orientation.

The bottom line is that gay relationships do not meet the definition of mating behavior or marriage.

They do have every right and opportunity to identify and establish their own relationship, just like heterosexuals did with marriage.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37845 Feb 21, 2013
Mary wrote:
Marriage is a sacrament between a man and a woman
Only in the religious world. In the real world it is a contract betwen whomever the government decides can be married.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37846 Feb 21, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Only in the religious world. In the real world it is a contract betwen whomever the government decides can be married.
In the 'real' world, the government is subject to reality. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

If you want a contract, go see a lawyer.

Smile.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37847 Feb 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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In the 'real' world, the government is subject to reality. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
If you want a contract, go see a lawyer.
Smile.
You're that odd smirky/bazinga/thinks its clever to call himself a "lesbian trapped in a man's body guy" right?

As previously discussed, you should feel free to never respond to any of my comments.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37848 Feb 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
In the 'real' world, the government is subject to reality. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
If you want a contract, go see a lawyer.
Smile.
Too late. We already have gay marriage in many places. Our certificate trumps your opinions.
Cool Hand Luke

Scranton, PA

#37849 Feb 21, 2013
So you have what a 2 inch buffer zone?
TXgurl wrote:
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Brown stains from what? You don't know much about lesbian sex, do you? I lick something, but it sure isn't her butthole. ;)
Cool Hand Luke

Scranton, PA

#37850 Feb 21, 2013
So hows that marriage thing working out?
Aids rate down yet? No, it's not, it just hit 81% of Aids infections are homosexuals.

TXgurl wrote:
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Well, I am finished with this topic... I can't stand seeing the lies and hate that they post any more. They don't wish to separate fact from fiction, because if they do they wont have an excuse for their hate. I want them to all know that their hate is not going to turn me straight, and I go to bed at night with my girlfriend and a big smile on my face.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37851 Feb 21, 2013
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
So you have what a 2 inch buffer zone?
<quoted text>
So very predictable, Kimare.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#37853 Feb 21, 2013
Mary wrote:
Marriage is a sacrament between a man and a woman
They copied us:
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1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 18:4> And Ionathan stript himselfe of the robe that was vpon him, and gaue it to Dauid, and his garments, euen to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.
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1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
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1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
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2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
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2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
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Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#37854 Feb 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Oh sit on it!

There, that addressed your comment.

Bazinga!
Oh, ok. Many happy returns.
yikes

Waterloo, IL

#37855 Feb 21, 2013
google it: what's #1 on the list.....on every list.
Just Think wrote:
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Only in the religious world. In the real world it is a contract betwen whomever the government decides can be married.

“Free your mind”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#37856 Feb 21, 2013
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
So hows that marriage thing working out?
Aids rate down yet? No, it's not, it just hit 81% of Aids infections are homosexuals.
TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I am finished with this topic... I can't stand seeing the lies and hate that they post any more. They don't wish to separate fact from fiction, because if they do they wont have an excuse for their hate. I want them to all know that their hate is not going to turn me straight, and I go to bed at night with my girlfriend and a big smile on my face.
Marriage equality is going to happen nationwide whether you like it or not. And... I am still happily living with my gf. Nothing you can do to stop my relationship or my happiness.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37857 Feb 21, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
They copied us:
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1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:4> And Ionathan stript himselfe of the robe that was vpon him, and gaue it to Dauid, and his garments, euen to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.
.
1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
.
1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
.
2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
.
2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
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So David was chastised for adultery with Bathsheba, but not with Jonathon?

More gay twirl idiocy.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37858 Feb 21, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Too late. We already have gay marriage in many places. Our certificate trumps your opinions.
The 'gay' preceding marriage says it all...

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37859 Feb 21, 2013
Each individual is free to attach any meaning they choose, to their own marriage.

But from a legal perspective, marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual.

The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human. We hold these truths to be self evident.

Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Gender restrictions vary among states, and serve no legitimate governmental interest.

While churches may place any restrictions they choose on their own ceremonies, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.

Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Sterile and non sexual people are allowed to marry and do so frequently. Many second, third, ect., marriages include sterile people.

Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides no benefit to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.

As Justice Kennedy wrote about the founding fathers: "They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress."

Laws that treat gay people less than equal to straight people are laws that only serve to oppress. It is time to overcome the prejudices we were taught as children and stop harming our neighbors and family members by passing laws that dehumanize and harm gay citizens through denial of the legal equality promised in the founding documents and required by the 5th and 14th amendments to the constitution.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37860 Feb 21, 2013
TXgurl wrote:
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Marriage equality is going to happen nationwide whether you like it or not. And... I am still happily living with my gf. Nothing you can do to stop my relationship or my happiness.
Notice too, the attempt to demonize all gay people, ignoring that the female half of the gay population is the lowest risk group for HIV, most men are not infected, and that more straight people are infected worldwide.

Disease transmission information demonstrates the value of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.

It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.

But just as it was used in the past to support inter-racial segregation, it fails to provide a legitimate governmental justification for denial of equal treatment under the law.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37861 Feb 21, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Each individual is free to attach any meaning they choose, to their own marriage.
Yes, and their own gender, and their own race, and their own IQ. The list goes on.

However, in each case, reality trumps meaningless assignments of meaning.

At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Gay couples are a defective contradiction to the very core goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.

Your attempt to impose an imposter relationship on marriage is a corruption of reality, nature, culture, religions, society and law.

Smile.

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