Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Michael Clark Duncun

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In actuality, there is NO separation of church & state. Read your money; it says "In God We Trust". God is in everything. It doesn't matter if you like it or you don't or if you agree or if you don't. The bill didn't go thru & I think it's wonderful that it didn't & I hope it never does.
Well lady,there may not be separation by law but there is in practice! How about you try to teach Christianity in the public schools and see what happens! You'll get thrown out on your ear and most likely taken to court! Read my money? You do know that the Pledge of allegiance didn't have "God" in it until the 1950's right? And the "In god we trust" wasn't put on our bills until the 1950's right? A group of fundie's under Eisenhower rammed it through congress when they had the majority in the 50's!
The treaty of Tripoli stated in 1796, Quote, "As the government of the United States is NOT in any sense founded on the Christian religion"
Gee,pretty easy to follow there don't you think? LoL,Now was America founded on Christianity? The answer is NO,Lets see what some of our founding fathers had to say on this very subject,but basically they say you are full of it! We as Americans have the Constitutional right to worship in any way(or to not worship) we deem right for us! NO one religion takes precedence over another! If I worship Zeus that is my right and there is just as much evidence around that he was just as real! Our Constitution is the only supreme law that counts in the U.S. and it also trumps the bible!

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Michael Clark Duncun wrote:
<quoted text>Well lady,there may not be separation by law but there is in practice! How about you try to teach Christianity in the public schools and see what happens! You'll get thrown out on your ear and most likely taken to court! Read my money? You do know that the Pledge of allegiance didn't have "God" in it until the 1950's right? And the "In god we trust" wasn't put on our bills until the 1950's right? A group of fundie's under Eisenhower rammed it through congress when they had the majority in the 50's!
The treaty of Tripoli stated in 1796, Quote, "As the government of the United States is NOT in any sense founded on the Christian religion"
Gee,pretty easy to follow there don't you think? LoL,Now was America founded on Christianity? The answer is NO,Lets see what some of our founding fathers had to say on this very subject,but basically they say you are full of it! We as Americans have the Constitutional right to worship in any way(or to not worship) we deem right for us! NO one religion takes precedence over another! If I worship Zeus that is my right and there is just as much evidence around that he was just as real! Our Constitution is the only supreme law that counts in the U.S. and it also trumps the bible!

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Nothing trumps the Bible!!!!! Yes, you can worship whatever you choose; I just know what the consequences of that will be. It spells it out for you in the Bible; but you go ahead. & worship who you want or don't want. That is your right. I choose God.
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Southern Lady01 wrote:
In actuality, there is NO separation of church & state
No ma'am
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Still standing today we are protected by the 1948 United States Supreme Court McCollum vs Board of Education decision; 'separation means separation; not something less':
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We find that the basic Constitutional principle of absolute Separation was violated when the State of Illinois, speaking through its Supreme Court, sustained the school authorities of Champaign in sponsoring and effectively furthering religious beliefs by its educational arrangement.
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Separation means separation, not something less. Jefferson's metaphor in describing the relation between Church and State speaks of a "wall of separation," not of a fine line easily overstepped. The public school is at once the symbol of our democracy and the most pervasive means for promoting our common destiny. In no activity of the State is it more vital to keep out divisive forces than in its schools, to avoid confusing, not to say fusing, what the Constitution sought to keep strictly apart. "The great American principle of eternal separation" -- Elihu Root's phrase bears repetition -- is one of the vital reliances of our Constitutional system for assuring unities among our people stronger than our diversities. It is the Court's duty to enforce this principle in its full integrity.
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We renew our conviction that:
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"we have staked the very existence of our country on the faith that complete separation between the state and religion is best for the state and best for religion."
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If nowhere else, in the relation between Church and State, "good fences make good neighbors."
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You know I don't believe you are gay or that you're really the way you let on. I think you just like the attention; either good or bad. You like to take what people say & twist it into something discusting because you can't communicate intelligently. Poor thing!!!
thnks so much for your concern !! HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY!!
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Illinois is lime California without the good weather. Basically it sucks. Illinois rewards lazy people kr people who want free stuff and takes or punishes those who work.
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Illinois is lime California without the good weather. Basically it sucks. Illinois rewards lazy people kr people who want free stuff and takes or punishes those who work.
bite me
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Illinois is far more queer than California, remember California voted down same sex marriage! There are pockets of California that are infested with queers but the whole state of Illianois is flooded with homosexuals.
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<quoted text>bite me

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Southern Lady01 wrote:
In actuality, there is NO separation of church & state. Read your money; it says "In God We Trust". God is in everything. It doesn't matter if you like it or you don't or if you agree or if you don't. The bill didn't go thru & I think it's wonderful that it didn't & I hope it never does.
Words from Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers... "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Jefferson's own words... a wall of separation between church and state. It can't be said any more clearly.

http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html
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It's funny you would quote Jefferson considering how many times you have bashed the constitution.

That was not in the constitution but instead was in a letter written by Jefferson. Why not quote what the constitution actually says? We know why!
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Words from Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers... "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Jefferson's own words... a wall of separation between church and state. It can't be said any more clearly.
http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html
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<quoted text>Then I guess this post means that you in fact hate yourself? That is if you were truly a gay person of which you're not! Nice try but take your bible and stick it where the "SON" don't shine! This remains a secular nation with separation of church and state! And for a very good reason I might add! I mean just read your hateful "GOD" post and other hateful posts on this thread and many others! How about you try to actually follow what your Jesus taught! As it is,you're an epic fail!'Sigh"
I do try to practice what the bible teaches but there's people like you who I'd rather kill so I read the bible to try to take the hate out of me and it works til I run into someone like you again. Wish I had a brick to bash your fkn face in. I don't have to take a bible and shove it anywhere, but why don't you take a razor blade and shove it up yours and pour alcohol on it then set it on fire. But the bible tells me that vengeance is for the lord and in order for God to forgive my sun I'm supposed to pray for you and forgive yours. Do you see why it's so hard?? Flaming queen
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Illinois is lime California without the good weather. Basically it sucks. Illinois rewards lazy people kr people who want free stuff and takes or punishes those who work.
it's not just Illinois. It's the whole country!!

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It's funny you would quote Jefferson considering how many times you have bashed the constitution.
That was not in the constitution but instead was in a letter written by Jefferson. Why not quote what the constitution actually says? We know why!
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I have never bashed the constitution, in fact, I have quoted it several times on here...
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<quoted text>They would like you to think so and they try their best to magnify their numbers but they are only 2% of the population.

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U.S. Census Playing Homosexual Charades?

U.S. Census Bureau Inflates Same-Sex Couple Numbers by 40 percent

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Original data published by the 2010 Census reported that the number of same-sex households in the U.S. was 901,997, including 349,377 same-sex “married couple households,” and 552,620 same-sex unmarried partner households.

On Tuesday, however, the Census Bureau admitted that those numbers were significantly revised downward after staff discovered inconsistency in file statistics “that artificially inflated the number of same-sex couples.”

The number initially reported was about 40% higher than what the Census Bureau believes to be accurate.

The Census Bureau now estimates that there are 131,729 same-sex “married couple households,” and 514,735 same-sex unmarried partner households in the U.S. for a total of 646,464 same-sex households. The Census Bureau had, therefore, misrepresented the number of same-sex couples by 255,533 or 39.5%.

Why might this miscalculation and misreporting be important?

First off, the figure is an estimate. No doubt, same-sex “marriage” advocates will suggest that many such couples refuse to report their status and that the actual numbers are much higher. They will not only want to demonstrate that the numbers are higher, but that they are on the rise. Since, however, the number is an estimate, it’s just as conceivable (especially given the error) that the numbers are even lower. While I give the Census Bureau credit for its attempt at accuracy, the estimate, their mistake, and the highly politicized nature of the debate really put the data into question.

Numbers are important, particularly when it comes to politics and public policy.

Considering the battle over same-sex “marriage” going on in many states across the country, the president’s overwhelming support for the homosexual agenda, and the pop culture’s embrace, celebration, and promotion of homosexuality, inflated numbers make same-sex coupling seem far more common than it really is.

If, as the Census Bureau reports, there are 116,716,292 total households in the U.S., that means that same-sex households make up .55 percent of the total.

That’s far, far less than what’s more commonly reported by the media, and drastically less than what’s depicted on television and film. the total number of homosexuals in the U.S. is estimated to be lower than 2%.

Of the 10 ranked cable networks in their most recent report, ABC Family was labeled the most pro-homosexual, with 55 percent of its programming hours featuring inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender issues.
CBS, Showtime, TNT, HBO, AMC and others featured homosexual issues between 29 and 37% of their programming hours.

So a demographic that accounts for .55 percent of the total U.S. households garners 29 to 55 percent of television station’s programming hours? The Media Research Center has done much research in this regard and reported on it.

According to an April Gallup Poll, U.S. adults overestimate that more Americans are homosexual than are Catholic. They estimate that 25% of Americans are homosexual. Not so! The actual number of 2% is shocking to most Americans.

The poll cites entertainment as a likely factor.“This [poll] suggests Americans have had even more exposure to gays and lesbians, be it in their personal lives or through entertainment or other means.”

They come to the conclusion that the primary cause of the inaccurate estimate is due to entertainment influences.

“In terms of how people constitute their mental pictures of society, these things drive the impression that gays are a normal and substantial portion of the population,” said The Economist blog.
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I bet it's a lot more than %2
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<quoted text>I have never bashed the constitution, in fact, I have quoted it several times on here...
your not supposed to live by the constitution your supposed to live by Christ so why not do what the bible says
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They would like you to think so and they try their best to magnify their numbers but they are only 2% of the population.
We deliberately understate our numbers to foil the enemy in battle
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Gays and bisexuals together total 83% of the world's population
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<quoted text>your not supposed to live by the constitution your supposed to live by Christ so why not do what the bible says
This is a joke, right?
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<quoted text>your not supposed to live by the constitution your supposed to live by Christ so why not do what the bible says
The bible is not permissible as evidence in a court of law unless it was the actual murder weapon used to bludgeon the victim to death

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<quoted text>Words from Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers... "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Jefferson's own words... a wall of separation between church and state. It can't be said any more clearly.

http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html
You tell that to all the presidents in the past who prayed before making major decisions or who called their pastor for advice & prayer before deciding to go to war? How many people do you think pray in any government office everyday before making decisions that effect all of us every day?

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<quoted text>your not supposed to live by the constitution your supposed to live by Christ so why not do what the bible says
Amen.

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<quoted text>The bible is not permissible as evidence in a court of law unless it was the actual murder weapon used to bludgeon the victim to death
How long was a Bible in every court room in this country? I do believe witnesses were asked to put their hand on it & promise to tell the truth. Yes the Bible can be used as evidence in a court of law if someone does something & blames it on what they believe the Bible told them to do or not do. Such as when people try to with hold medical treatment due to religious beliefs. People use the Bible to do evil as well as good. People will answer to God for what they do. Regardless if courts like it or not. Sorry, just the way it is!!!

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