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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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mahz

Trenton, IL

#36660 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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They can start their own so called churches. But they will never really be a church in the Bible sense of the word.
So churches are not allowed to contain sinners? I thought the biblical sense of the word was congregation of people gathered together to worship Christ? Sinners included.

Actually, you just committed a sin by casting judgement upon them and saying they cannot be true followers of Christ because they don't do what you do.
control

Saint Louis, MO

#36661 Jan 2, 2013
It is very interesting what some people call progress is what others call moral decline.
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36666 Jan 2, 2013
control wrote:
It is very interesting what some people call progress is what others call moral decline.
And yet when priests spend a couple hundred years having gay pedophile sex they didn't mention anything about moral decline.

When 50% of marriages end in divorce their answer to protect the sanctity of marriage is to make sure gay people don't have one.

They have no problem with drone bombing that targets people when they are in the midst of their families. Killing women and children is perfectly moral. As long as they are Muslim women and children.

Hypocrites.
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36667 Jan 2, 2013
Mister E wrote:
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Ohhhh. I see now. So you now want it forced upon me to (and I will use YOUR word) honor gays AND honor a church/religion and some sort of sanctity shared by the two groups? Honor them. Or I am denying them a first amendment right? What if I choose to honor neither? Am I in double jeopardy for failing to properly honor each group seperately? Sounds like communism with a flair to me...
Wow! How completely clueless. You really just don't get it do you? No one cares about your beliefs. It is the action of the Federal Government that matters.

You can deny their marriage vows all you like. It will remain as meaningless as your beliefs do now.

It's when the government does it that it becomes a constitutional violation. Their marriage is not a violation of your rights. Stop trying to play the victim.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#36668 Jan 2, 2013
truth wrote:
2013 should have new law if you dont have drivers license or insurance you can not buy gasat the gas stations this will help the usa. oil shortage and save the 0-zone air etc. take drunks off the road and get rid of all the wrong doers on the road help safe America post this we need your help.
Sugar; that won't work
.
People purchase gasoline for many purposes that don't require a drivers license
.
Here's a few:
tractors
mowers
generators
chippers
ATVs
go carts
mini bikes
weedeaters
blowers
golf carts
airplanes
boats
chain saws
helicopters
.
See what i mean; Vern?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#36669 Jan 2, 2013
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares about the bible. They have their own Christian Churches and denying them their right to marry is a violation of the First Amendment. I couldn't care less what your book of mythology, or theirs, actually says.
If they are homosexual then it's not a Christian church!!!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#36670 Jan 2, 2013
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>I'd wager to say you exist in a pretty tiny bubble.

Support for gay marriage breaks down along generational lines. The older you are the less likely you are to support it.

64% of those born after 1981 do and that number keeps growing. In another 20 years more than 2/3 of the people will support gay marriage. Currently more than half do. Its time has come.
That is just stupid. No one can say what is going to happen in 20 years, except God. Like I said you don't know the young people I know. I don't know of any of them who support this junk,
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36671 Jan 2, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Sugar; that won't work
.
People purchase gasoline for many purposes that don't require a drivers license
.
Here's a few:
tractors
mowers
generators
chippers
ATVs
go carts
mini bikes
weedeaters
blowers
golf carts
airplanes
boats
chain saws
helicopters
.
See what i mean; Vern?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08...
WTF is this oil shortage they are talking about? The United States is going to become the largest producer of Petroleum in the world within a couple years.

Some people are so painfully clueless.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/business/en...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#36672 Jan 2, 2013
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>So churches are not allowed to contain sinners? I thought the biblical sense of the word was congregation of people gathered together to worship Christ? Sinners included.

Actually, you just committed a sin by casting judgement upon them and saying they cannot be true followers of Christ because they don't do what you do.
Read I Corinthians & then tell me that.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#36673 Jan 2, 2013
control wrote:
It is very interesting what some people call progress is what others call moral decline.
So true.
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36674 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
<quoted text>
If they are homosexual then it's not a Christian church!!!
You are still missing the point. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with what they do in their church, or that you hold the opinion they are not Christians. What matters is they have a First Amendment right to practice Christianity any way they choose, including offering gay marriage rites. Your opinion does not change that.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#36675 Jan 2, 2013
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>And yet when priests spend a couple hundred years having gay pedophile sex they didn't mention anything about moral decline.

When 50% of marriages end in divorce their answer to protect the sanctity of marriage is to make sure gay people don't have one.

They have no problem with drone bombing that targets people when they are in the midst of their families. Killing women and children is perfectly moral. As long as they are Muslim women and children.

Hypocrites.
Idiot. They had no trouble killing the people on 9/11. Didn't care about gender or age. Get over yourself.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#36676 Jan 2, 2013
Mister E wrote:
<quoted text> But you and your husband CANNOT reproduce together sir. THAT is the difference I was suggesting that separates what is consummation of marriage that gays will NEVER have the ability to do. That can consummate their love in many ways I am sure but procreation isn't one of them. I bet your straight adult children are just thrilled to know their dad is pumping their "other" dad. He'll, they might make a tv sitcom about your dysfunctional family. Maybe you can pitch it to LOGO.
You are still failing to explain how our marriage affects your marriage
.
Quit dancing around the bush and spill it
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36677 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
<quoted text>
That is just stupid. No one can say what is going to happen in 20 years, except God. Like I said you don't know the young people I know. I don't know of any of them who support this junk,
So God can see into the future?

If God can see into the future then everything must be pre-determined. If not, how can he see something that is not yet set in stone.

If he can see into the future then it means mankind has no free will. If everything is pre-determined and God already knows what you are going to do 20 years from now, then you have no choice in the matter. It is already set.

So either God cannot see into the future, or mankind has no free will. Logically there is no other way this can be looked at.

So which is it? Can God see the future, meaning man has no free will and therefore is incapable of sin? OR is God not all powerful and he cannot see into the future?

Sorry, honey, but anyone with half a brain can look at the past and current demographic trends and see where we will be in 20 years. You are just in denial about the fact your belief system has faded from prominence and is going the way of the dodo. Like thousands of religions before it.
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36678 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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Idiot. They had no trouble killing the people on 9/11. Didn't care about gender or age. Get over yourself.
So it's OK to do wrong if wrong has been done to you?

Where can I find that in my Bible?

WWJB? Who Would Jesus Bomb?
mahz

Trenton, IL

#36679 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
<quoted text>
Idiot. They had no trouble killing the people on 9/11. Didn't care about gender or age. Get over yourself.
We'll show them how wrong it is to kill innocents. We'll kill their women and children!

You are so twisted up in that little head of yours it isn't even funny. A hateful, angry Christian lashing out at the world.

Does Jesus call people idiots too?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#36680 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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If they are homosexual then it's not a Christian church!!!
Malarky!!!!
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We wrote The Book
http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012...

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#36681 Jan 2, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's where you're wrong. My generation is raising the next generation to have the same morals & to follow the Bible's teachings. It's a never ending cycle. Just the way God intended it to be.
Well then, you've been duped. Fundamental Christians under the age of 30 support gay rights. They can recognize the difference between church affairs, and civil affairs.

Marriage, between ANY two consenting adults is a civil matter. There is NO requirement that anyone marry in a church/temple/synagogue. Nor is there any requirement that those institutions recognize SSM.

Many churches do recognize SSM, while others never will. But the bottom line is that marriage recognition by government is a civil matter.

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#36682 Jan 2, 2013
Mister E wrote:
<quoted text> But you and your husband CANNOT reproduce together sir. THAT is the difference I was suggesting that separates what is consummation of marriage that gays will NEVER have the ability to do. That can consummate their love in many ways I am sure but procreation isn't one of them. I bet your straight adult children are just thrilled to know their dad is pumping their "other" dad. He'll, they might make a tv sitcom about your dysfunctional family. Maybe you can pitch it to LOGO.
1. What is your fascination with anal? My husband doesn't enjoy it, at all, so all that humping and pumping that you're daydreaming about only exists in your head. But, carry on if that's working for you.
2. My children have no issue with my sexuality and out daily life is probably every bit as mundane as is yours.
3. I know many people who either can't, or won't have children. Are their marriages any less valid in the eyes of the government?

Again, civil marriage is NOT about procreation.

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#36683 Jan 2, 2013
our*, not out

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