Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

[Just Think]

non smoker wrote:

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Wow, I feel sad for you and where you are going end up. Remember our conversation when you are burning in hell, and I don't mean that meanly, I mean it literally. Some day you will remember these words and wish to yourself you never said not believed them. I won't stoop to your level and call names, I will pray for you instead. God bless, I'm afraid for your future.

So...basically you have no answers for very legitimate biblical questions.

Shocker.

[Quest]

get smart wrote:

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The heathen that do not believe in God's Word-- might just be smart enough to know that the tap on SS FROM THE GAY BOOMERS WILL BE GREATER than the Baby Boomers tap.
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What?

So, only Christians fear providing the same social security benefits to gay married couples as they do straight couples? Why would only Christians want to stiff others to increase their share? Do only Christians have issues with standing on their own two feet, or do they all need to be subsidized by gay families, to the detriment of those families?

Doesn't sound very Christian to me.

[Quest]

get smart wrote:

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Money is the name of the game- They are laughing all the way to the bank as no one has brought this up as of now.

Yes, many people have realized that currently, straight couples are laughing all the way to the bank. They are squeezing subsidies from gay families, without a care in the world as to how their greed harms those families.

Your post here proves that for many straight people, it's all about preserving their unfair share of each gay taxpayer's money.

Fortunately, a great many straight couples have realized this, and are fighting alongside gay folks to change this ridiculous situation.

[non smoker]

Just Think wrote:

<quoted text>So...basically you have no answers for very legitimate biblical questions.

Shocker.

I don't think you have actually read the bible not understand it. You can twist anything you want and slant it to sound as you wish but if you read the bible you would get your answers. I don't need to debate what it says because you will interpret things the way you want them to sound.

[Quest]

non smoker wrote:

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Wow, I feel sad for you and where you are going end up. Remember our conversation when you are burning in hell, and I don't mean that meanly, I mean it literally. Some day you will remember these words and wish to yourself you never said not believed them. I won't stoop to your level and call names, I will pray for you instead. God bless, I'm afraid for your future.

You do not stand side by side with God, judging the human heart and soul.

A great many gay people have flown from the very notion of God, driven away by those that pretend to "care", while demanding the impossible.

Threatening people with hell while talking of a loving god is a wonderful way to spread the Word.

[non smoker]

mahz wrote:

<quoted text>He is also against pork. Do you eat bacon?

He is also against shellfish? Eat any shrimp lately?

He is also against mixing more than one type of fiber? Do you own any cotton/poly blend t-shirts?

He is also for slavery. How many slaves do you own?

He also commands that women be forced to leave the house during menstration and can only return after the bleeding has stopped and they have been ritually bathed so that they are once again clean?

So do you force the women in your house to go live in the shed for five days a month?

If not you need to shut your pie hole because your cafeteria Christianity in which you get to pick and choose which of your God's laws to obey is pathetic.

Here's a question for you Christian. Jesus came to fulfill God's covenant and replaced the Old Testament laws with his own. Jesus never mentions homosexuality once. Do you think that if it was as important to him as you are trying to make it out to be, he might has said something about it somewhere? Just once?

1 Timothy 1 9-10. Wow New Testament talks about it. Amazing what you find when you open and read it. This is why I don't have to prove to you what's in it, because I know it is and you haven't read not understand it.

[non smoker]

Quest wrote:

<quoted text>You do not stand side by side with God, judging the human heart and soul.

A great many gay people have flown from the very notion of God, driven away by those that pretend to "care", while demanding the impossible.

Threatening people with hell while talking of a loving god is a wonderful way to spread the Word.

Hopefully it is enough to get them reading or interested enough to check it out. I am only stating what is in Gods word, it is wrong plain and simple. I understand there have been many great gay people in this world but it doesn't change the fact that its wrong.

[Quest]

non smoker wrote:

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I don't think you have actually read the bible not understand it. You can twist anything you want and slant it to sound as you wish but if you read the bible you would get your answers. I don't need to debate what it says because you will interpret things the way you want them to sound.

Will you be honest enough to acknowledge that every reader, every translator, every biblical scholar does this, ever time they read the Bible?

Even yourself?

Every person who has picked up any translation throughout it's long history has done this.

That's why we do not run or Government by the Bible. If we did, we would have to decide which version, which translation, and which interpretation was "correct".

And EVERYONE would believe that it was their own interpretation.

[Just Think]

non smoker wrote:

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I don't think you have actually read the bible not understand it. You can twist anything you want and slant it to sound as you wish but if you read the bible you would get your answers. I don't need to debate what it says because you will interpret things the way you want them to sound.

Rather like Christians who twist the bible's words to support their hatred and ignore the rest of bible's admonitions...

[We Know]

Yep, YOURS is the only opinion that counts.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA..........HA!

Just Think wrote:

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Rather like Christians who twist the bible's words to support their hatred and ignore the rest of bible's admonitions...

[mahz]

non smoker wrote:

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Wow, I feel sad for you and where you are going end up. Remember our conversation when you are burning in hell, and I don't mean that meanly, I mean it literally. Some day you will remember these words and wish to yourself you never said not believed them. I won't stoop to your level and call names, I will pray for you instead. God bless, I'm afraid for your future.

So what your saying is that you have no logical response so your going to default to some bullshit canned line threatening me with hell. Somehow I dont think Jesus message was "do what I say or you will suffer." He wasn't that kind of prick.

About what I expected.

[mahz]

non smoker wrote:

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1 Timothy 1 9-10. Wow New Testament talks about it. Amazing what you find when you open and read it. This is why I don't have to prove to you what's in it, because I know it is and you haven't read not understand it.

I said where did Jesus mention it, not Paul. Major fail!

I have read it many times and understand it far more than you will ever be capable of you mental midget.

[mahz]

You know what else is wrong you feeble minded fool. Eating pigs. It is given the exact same treatment as homosexuality in Leviticus. It is an abomination.

Yet I don't see you protesting BBQ joint. You probably enjoy a good slice of bacon every once in a while yourself. You are the same as a sodomite, you pig eating filth. At least you are according to your gods words.

Like I said, do you kick the women out of your house for 5 days a month because they are "unclean" while menstruating? If not, you are an abomination. You might as well go have gay sex because you are just as lowly and evil as they are. At least that's what it says in your bible anyway.

[KiMare]

Just Think wrote:

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So...basically you have no answers for very legitimate biblical questions.
Shocker.

Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."

Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)

Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.

Note; The effect of radiation.

Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.

Smile.

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

Jeb Wilson wrote:

this is sick man. i aint for gays at all. this country is going down the tubes man. in nam we shot gays.

i say you kill yourself tonight t preent having to go thru the downfall.... dumbazz

oh and as to nam... you lost

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

KiMare wrote:

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Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."
Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)
Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.
Note; The effect of radiation.
Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.
Smile.

oh i saw your jesass today.... he was hanging dead on a cross....what a shame

[Jeb Wilson]

you must be one of them sick lesbians man. are you the man or biatch. you are sicko as we say in nam.

[Restless Spirits]

Jeb Wilson wrote:

this is sick man. i aint for gays at all. this country is going down the tubes man. in nam we shot gays.

Listen to the lying Chicken Hawk! You haven't served a day in your life let alone Vietnam! Listen buddy,I was there and I served with many gays while over there! Gays have been serving our country with honor since this country was formed! Get over yourself,DADT is now history as it should be and soon gays will have marriage equality as per that pesky Constitution of ours of which you seem to forget even exists! Read the 14th amendment and then STFU! Equal treatment under the law! You didn't shoot anybody,you are a coward!

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

Jeb Wilson wrote:

you must be one of them sick lesbians man. are you the man or biatch. you are sicko as we say in nam.

oh sorry dumbazs, but i'm not gay... quite the opposite... actually a stripper and escort in seattle... with you know... men.... but i have a gay child and i fully support equallity.... maybe had you supported real freedom you wouldn't have ... well ... you know... been a loser in nam

[KiMare]

Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:

<quoted text>oh sorry dumbazs, but i'm not gay... quite the opposite... actually a stripper and escort in seattle... with you know... men.... but i have a gay child and i fully support equallity.... maybe had you supported real freedom you wouldn't have ... well ... you know... been a loser in nam

We would rather be ruined than changed.
We would rather die in our dread
Than climb the cross of the present
And let our illusions die.
--WH Auden, The Age of Anxiety

Being disillusioned is one of the best things that can happen. We all live in a illusion of reality. When it bitch slaps us, we say we are disillusioned.

Good.

Listen to her.