White Sox GM might consider dealing Dye

White Sox GM might consider dealing Dye

There are 255 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 12, 2008, titled White Sox GM might consider dealing Dye. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

In his attempt to field a younger and quicker team for the future, White Sox general manager Ken Williams and high-level staff members currently are evaluating talent at the Arizona Fall League.

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Rocky

Ilion, NY

#1 Nov 12, 2008
How in the world are you considering a trade of Bobby Jenks?! My God- how would you replace him? He was gone for a month this year and the bullpens' collective backsides hit the floor.

He's way, way, way too valuable. No way.
no nose

Woodridge, IL

#2 Nov 12, 2008
trading Jenks would be ballsy. trading Dye would be a good thing. You have to trade at their zenith if you want good returns. Dye is a good player but this team does need speed. Kenny always does a good job so I am not too worried with what may be on the table. I hear Kenny is looking at Kerry Wood and Fukodome. It should be a fun winter league.
WrecksAlwaysSux

King Of Prussia, PA

#3 Nov 12, 2008
Jenks should only be dealt if the other team takes both Konerko and Thome along, which is NEVER! I'm so sick of those lead-footed swinging-for-the-fences-and-wh iffing types.

Since: Sep 08

Bloomington,IL

#4 Nov 12, 2008
Please God, Don't let Kenny have a major brain fart and trade Bobby Jenks.
Tired of the Idiots

Chicago, IL

#5 Nov 12, 2008
What awful thinking. Jenks, no way. Dye? Who the hell would take up the slack for his bat? We're already going to be stuck with "Wheels" Konerko and "Leadfoot" Thome striking out and hitting into double plays each at bat.

Given the fat contracts of Konerko and Thome hanging around the Sox' collective neck like a dead albatross, I can't see how Kenny will be able to field an improved team in '09.
The Capitalist

Chicago, IL

#6 Nov 12, 2008
If Kenny's looking at Wood and Fukodome, Jerry better reel his ass in FAST!
KAG

United States

#7 Nov 12, 2008
Dye's a great player and class act, but at 35 you trade him now for value or risk his inevitable decline at which point you can't get much for him. Still, it'd be hard to see him go.

The Sox have too many players like Thome (39 next season), Konerko (33), Piercynski (32), Cabrera (34), and Dye (35), good but aging fast. Sooner or later they need to make some trades for younger guys.
Salsa Shark

Streamwood, IL

#8 Nov 12, 2008
Yeah, get rid of the proven and loyal Dye in favour of Quentin, who had a fluke year.
Hmm

Carol Stream, IL

#9 Nov 12, 2008
Trading Dye would be a good thing as you can get some value in return. Ideally I would rather get rid of Thome, and put Dye at DH, and get rid of Konerko, but he had a bad year and who would want him now? I'm not sure trading Jenks makes any sense, unless you know you have a closer at the ready, which I don't think they do. What would be the point of trading your current closer just to get a closer prospect?
Alan

Salt Lake City, UT

#10 Nov 12, 2008
fatchef wrote:
Please God, Don't let Kenny have a major brain fart and trade Bobby Jenks.
Kenny Williams is a smart and clever GM but if you remember he DID have a "Brain Fart" when he launched Aaron Rowand. We are still getting over that one!
KW FAN

Lake Forest, IL

#11 Nov 12, 2008
It's a perfect time to dump Jenks, he is clearly not the pitcher of 2 years ago. I don't think there's too many non pitchers afraid of him at this point and he's putting an awful lot of people on base.

And there are many more legit reasons to dump a slow, very poor defensive Dye at 35 years old than there are to keep him.
They both seem like good moves at the right time.
Funny though, the only reason the sox got Jenks to begin with was because he was getting drunk all the time and lighting himself on fire, now they're going to dump him because he's got no fire inside and can't fire the ball like he used to. Maybe if he lost 75 pounds or so, he would show people he was serious about baseball and not getting drunk all the time. And why did this team let this guy turn into such a slob?
At any rate goodbye boys, out with the old.

“The quo has no status”

Since: Oct 08

Glen Ellyn, IL

#12 Nov 12, 2008
KAG wrote:
Dye's a great player and class act, but at 35 you trade him now for value or risk his inevitable decline at which point you can't get much for him. Still, it'd be hard to see him go.
The Sox have too many players like Thome (39 next season), Konerko (33), Piercynski (32), Cabrera (34), and Dye (35), good but aging fast. Sooner or later they need to make some trades for younger guys.
I agree whole heartedly. BUT, Cabrera is a FREE AGENT and can't be traded because officially he's NOT ON THE TEAM!

“This and That”

Since: Jul 08

Chicago

#13 Nov 12, 2008
I really don't want to see Dye go
Fandemonium

Chicago, IL

#14 Nov 12, 2008
I'd give Jenks one more year on the White Sox. He's only 27 and the best closer the Sox have. He's declined but man-oh-man his attitude changed during that final Minnesota game, he really let them have it. It would be suicide to trade Bobby Jenks.

Think of it this way, with this bad economy that is going to really tank in the next few months into 2009, if the White Sox choose to go more marginal than usual, then plan on seeing more empty seats a la KC over at the Cell.
Fandemonium

Chicago, IL

#15 Nov 12, 2008
no nose wrote:
I hear Kenny is looking at Kerry Wood and Fukodome.
Has Ken been drinking again?

Shopping up on the north side, that's as special as shopping in KC. Fukodome did ***SO*** much for the Cubs, as did blister fingered Wood. And that's just bringing the enemy into their beauiful ballpark. Quit it, ok?

If Ken wants a good Japanese player on the Sox, bring back Tadahito. He's a MUCH better player than Fukodome turned out to be a huge disappointment on the north side. The north side doesn't even want him anymore.

Also, Ken, remember the economy is tanking. How much are the Sox (& Cubs) gonna push the tickets up this year? Putting a s-h-!tty team on the field = lots of empty seats. I'd rather watch the games from home and $ave a ton of $$$$$$$, especially paying $24 for parking in a backlot.

NOT WORTH IT ANYMORE.
bob

Winfield, IL

#16 Nov 13, 2008
no way jermaine stays!!
Hardliner

United States

#17 Nov 13, 2008
What other choice does Kenny Williams have if he wants to trade for a top player? The Sox only have two minor league players that come to mind, Poreda and Beckham, which would be considered upper level prospects by others teams. The bloom appears to be off of the rose on Josh Fields. Unless Williams wants to trade Beckham (future second baseman) or Poreda ( Lefty that throws in the upper 90's) he is going to have to trade a top big league player to get another teams top prospects or producers.

Since the minor league system is in a rebuilding mode and the big league roster is filled with slow plodding veterans he should shake it up and make some deals for youth and speed. If he trades Jenks look for Poreda to move onto the bullpen.
Rick

Gilberts, IL

#18 Nov 13, 2008
Look at the history. Williams knows when to trade his pitchers. If I was a GM amd Williams wanted to trade a pitcher to me, I would run away from that deal. McCarthy and Garcia ring a bell? If he is trying to deal Jenks, he knows he's an injury waiting to happen or he sees him declining.
Hardliner

United States

#19 Nov 13, 2008
Rick wrote:
Look at the history. Williams knows when to trade his pitchers. If I was a GM amd Williams wanted to trade a pitcher to me, I would run away from that deal. McCarthy and Garcia ring a bell? If he is trying to deal Jenks, he knows he's an injury waiting to happen or he sees him declining.
Also people seem not to have noticed that Big Bobby no longer reaches 100mph. He throws in the low to mid 90's now. He has that monster curve ball which compensates but still. We all have a soft spot in our heart for the big goofy guy that helped the Sox win it all in 2005 but if Williams can parlay Jenks into a trade to get younger and faster he needs to do it before Jenks craps out.
JoeBu

Chicago, IL

#20 Nov 13, 2008
Salsa Shark wrote:
Yeah, get rid of the proven and loyal Dye in favour of Quentin, who had a fluke year.
It may turn out to be a fluke, but based on what he was projected to become, it may have been the first of many like years. Kenny grabbed him for a reason; he seems to have made a living bargain hunting- grabbing former 1st rounders and trying to tinker and get them to live up to their potential.

With Q, he struck at exactly the right time: coming off injury, with nothing but some underachieving major league games under his belt, and seemingly expendable since Dbacks had another promising player at the same spot. We didn't give up a promising prospect of our own, though, to grab a no-name. A few years back, Q was considered a future superstar. So far, so good...

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