Our tattoos, ourselves

Our tattoos, ourselves

There are 92 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from May 16, 2009, titled Our tattoos, ourselves. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Our daughter wants a tattoo. Nothing big or gaudy, she assures us. And not right away, either.

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Mop-erina

Bolingbrook, IL

#62 May 18, 2009
For those of you who say that you didn't ask for the public's opinions about yout tatoos: If they are in places visible to other people, then those same people will make value judgements about you regardless of their truthfulness. That is just a fact about human behavior. If you don't want other people to make those judgements, then don't get a tatoo in a visible place.

I don't have a tatoo, but worked in a biker bar for a time and saw many a tatoo on all kinds of people. I don't think having one or many tatoos makes a person bad or good, but not everyone thinks that way.
Reverend Dewey Cox

Frankfort, IL

#63 May 19, 2009
Mikey wrote:
"And if I am with a group of diners and don't have the option of dining elsewhere I simply leave a nickel or a dime for a tip. "
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What a lame excuse for being a cheapskate. Any excuse will do to cheap out. If they don't have tattoos, what do you tip them, a quarter? Speaking for all the servers in the world, if you can't afford to tip, stay home. You won't be missed.
Mikey, I am a notorious over-tipper. But if I am sickened by the site of ink on the server, it's "get out the nickel" time. And if you re-read my reply, I mention that I do try to avoid businesses with inked up, pierced employees. But when I am served by an efficient, neat and clean looking server, I am anything but cheap. I can walk into any restaurant that I've been satisfied with and the servers greatly look forward to having me for a repeat customer. I'd name the restaurants but I'd worry that you might pop in to one of them and ruin the ambiance. But it's so nice that you speak "for all the servers in the world,." I'm sure they all love you.
wow

Logansport, IN

#64 May 19, 2009
a tat is personal
Reverend Dewey Cox

Frankfort, IL

#65 May 19, 2009
wow wrote:
a tat is personal
As personal as a [email protected]
Ashley Renee

Lincoln, NE

#67 May 20, 2009
Mary Cullina wrote:
This article and many of the comments are the reason tattoos are still considered so taboo. People are not open to the idea that maybe body modification (tattoos, piercings, etc) might actually have meaning to the people who get them and might actually be worthwhile.
And its people like this who will not keep people like me, a perfect competent soon to be college graduate (with honors) with three tattoos and a mouth piercing, from being respected in a work force.
Open your mind to the possibility that the body mod generation may actually still have brains
I'm very open to that thought, sir - I suspect we're of the same generation even though I have no body art or modifications.
Go ahead and try to form, reform society but don't feel free to feel indignant if society tells you no. Part of being in a society - to an extent - is the concept that majority public opinion rules. If you're in the minority, while you shouldn't roll over and say "you win, I loose, oh well." If you dwell in a certain society, by choosing to remain in it, you're agreeing to abide by it's rules. That's part of what makes a society function.
Farther more, you should not be able to simply ignore the wisdom of age, experience, because they're telling you something you don't want to hear. Maybe you'll love your tats in 40 years - maybe, like so many of the boomers, you'll regret them. Maybe in 40 years you'll be telling the new generation of 20 year olds that you felt the exact same way when you were their age while they declare their own intelligance and stance.
Nothing we're doing here is new; tattoos and body modification certainly aren't. Rebellion and the struggle between generations for power isn't new. The point is that every generation has gone through this and every generation has insisted that they're unique in these feelings, this situation. When in reality, if they'd stop fighting and ask that older generation a question or two a lot of that pain and those struggles would go away.
You see, youth will always rise up, eventually, as the dominant group - having become the older generation themselves. It's called the life cycle and it will happen. How hard do you want to make it on yourselves?
Ashley Renee

Lincoln, NE

#68 May 20, 2009
Ma'am*, I appologize, I thought it said "Mark" instead of Mary.
Ashley Renee wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm very open to that thought, sir - I suspect we're of the same generation even though I have no body art or modifications.
Go ahead and try to form, reform society but don't feel free to feel indignant if society tells you no. Part of being in a society - to an extent - is the concept that majority public opinion rules. If you're in the minority, while you shouldn't roll over and say "you win, I loose, oh well." If you dwell in a certain society, by choosing to remain in it, you're agreeing to abide by it's rules. That's part of what makes a society function.
Farther more, you should not be able to simply ignore the wisdom of age, experience, because they're telling you something you don't want to hear. Maybe you'll love your tats in 40 years - maybe, like so many of the boomers, you'll regret them. Maybe in 40 years you'll be telling the new generation of 20 year olds that you felt the exact same way when you were their age while they declare their own intelligance and stance.
Nothing we're doing here is new; tattoos and body modification certainly aren't. Rebellion and the struggle between generations for power isn't new. The point is that every generation has gone through this and every generation has insisted that they're unique in these feelings, this situation. When in reality, if they'd stop fighting and ask that older generation a question or two a lot of that pain and those struggles would go away.
You see, youth will always rise up, eventually, as the dominant group - having become the older generation themselves. It's called the life cycle and it will happen. How hard do you want to make it on yourselves?
hypocrites be gone

Joliet, IL

#69 May 28, 2009
Reverend Dewey Cox wrote:
When I have to sit an a restaurant and get served by some inked up sleaze, is when I find a different restaurant.
If bimbos want to get the tattoos, that's their right. When I don't want to see them, especially when I'm trying to eat, that is my right.
And if I am with a group of diners and don't have the option of dining elsewhere I simply leave a nickel or a dime for a tip.
And how about the fat chicks that get tattoos thinking it'll make the hot when all they are is still a fat chick with a tattoo,(or piercing.)
You leave a crappy tip based on appearance? Wow, I hope you're not really a reverend. Then again, I wouldn't be too surprised if you really are.
Judge not, lest ye be judged, remember?
I guess I can feel free to treat people like dog poo anytime I want if I don't like their hairstyle, outfit, weight, shoes, wedding ring, etc., right?
I hope they all spit in your food.
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#70 May 30, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
<quoted text>
You leave a crappy tip based on appearance? Wow, I hope you're not really a reverend. Then again, I wouldn't be too surprised if you really are.
Judge not, lest ye be judged, remember?
I guess I can feel free to treat people like dog poo anytime I want if I don't like their hairstyle, outfit, weight, shoes, wedding ring, etc., right?
I hope they all spit in your food.
Hey D i c k W a d. They're disgusting to look at. I try to avoid their sections, but sometimes it's inevitable. It ruins my meal. Would you like to sit there with a glass of stale beer full of cigarette butts in front of you while you eat? That's the same effect the ink has on me. Learn your history. I see tattoos, my first thought is of the N a z i death camps.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#71 May 30, 2009
So many people have tattoos these days that I guess I can be considered a modern rebel...I have not even one tat.

btw, I have nothing against them. Everyone I know has them. Just not my thing.
hypocrites be gone

Chicago, IL

#72 May 30, 2009
Reverend Dewey Cox wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey D i c k W a d. They're disgusting to look at. I try to avoid their sections, but sometimes it's inevitable. It ruins my meal. Would you like to sit there with a glass of stale beer full of cigarette butts in front of you while you eat? That's the same effect the ink has on me. Learn your history. I see tattoos, my first thought is of the N a z i death camps.
Your manners are just as charming as your beliefs. People have been tattooing themselves since about 9500 BC. That's before Christ, Rev. And way before the Nazis.

Interesting that you should mention the Nazis. They, much like yourself, thought it was ok to punish people who physically displeased them. It was way more then Jews.

You might want to see a therapist to develop some tolerance skills. If tattoos cause such a violent physical reaction in you, I worry that you might be the next school shooter or something.
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#73 May 30, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
<quoted text>
Your manners are just as charming as your beliefs. People have been tattooing themselves since about 9500 BC. That's before Christ, Rev. And way before the Nazis.
Interesting that you should mention the Nazis. They, much like yourself, thought it was ok to punish people who physically displeased them. It was way more then Jews.
You might want to see a therapist to develop some tolerance skills. If tattoos cause such a violent physical reaction in you, I worry that you might be the next school shooter or something.
Hahahahah, that's a might big leap from not tipping tatooed servers to shooting up a school, "or something." Whatta m o p e!
hypocrites be gone

Chicago, IL

#74 May 30, 2009
Coming from someone who tells me to "learn my history" because he thinks tattoos started with Nazis? HAHAHAHAHA back at ya.

Bottom line is, you've got some good old anti-social behavior goin' on. Maybe you're a sociopath, who knows. You might want to look into it before it blossoms into something even more ugly.
sierra

Southampton, PA

#75 Jun 11, 2009
I'm with Dewey, I think you are screwed up, not him.
tats are dirty
hypocrites be gone wrote:
<quoted text>
Your manners are just as charming as your beliefs. People have been tattooing themselves since about 9500 BC. That's before Christ, Rev. And way before the Nazis.
Interesting that you should mention the Nazis. They, much like yourself, thought it was ok to punish people who physically displeased them. It was way more then Jews.
You might want to see a therapist to develop some tolerance skills. If tattoos cause such a violent physical reaction in you, I worry that you might be the next school shooter or something.
hypocrites be gone

Joliet, IL

#76 Jun 11, 2009
He thinks it's okay to be prejudiced against someone for the way they look, but *I'm* screwed up? Okay sierra. You're just as backwoods as Dewey.

Tattoo ink is not made from dirt, by the way. How often a person bathes does not change upon getting tattooed.
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#77 Jun 11, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
He thinks it's okay to be prejudiced against someone for the way they look, but *I'm* screwed up? Okay sierra. You're just as backwoods as Dewey.
Tattoo ink is not made from dirt, by the way. How often a person bathes does not change upon getting tattooed.
And you "thinks it's okay to be prejudiced against" someone who doesn't like to look at tattoos ?

You're a jaggoff.
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#79 Jun 12, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
It's "jagoff". blah, blah, blah...
Hahahaha -- Yup! I figured you'd know all about being a jagoff. Thanks for the confirmation.
hypocrites be gone

Joliet, IL

#80 Jun 12, 2009
I find it fascinating that you think I'm the one with the problem, when you are the one exhibiting hateful behavior. Please explain. Thank you.
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#81 Jun 12, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
I find it fascinating that you think I'm the one with the problem, when you are the one exhibiting hateful behavior. Please explain. Thank you.
Yeah, you find everything "fascinating."
hypocrites be gone

Vernon Hills, IL

#82 Jun 13, 2009
Do I? Thanks for that insight into my psyche.
I was hoping you'd be able to put together a few coherent sentences to defend your beliefs. Surely comebacks like "mope, dickwad and jagoff" aren't the most lucid thoughts you can form?
Reverend Dewey Cox

United States

#83 Jun 13, 2009
hypocrites be gone wrote:
Do I? Thanks for that insight into my psyche.
I was hoping you'd be able to put together a few coherent sentences to defend your beliefs. Surely comebacks like "mope, dickwad and jagoff" aren't the most lucid thoughts you can form?
Comebacks? I didn't know we were in a piissssing contest.

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