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Feb 24, 2013
 
DEAR AMY: There is a lady who works in our office who never washes her hands after using the toilet. She comes out of the stall, turns the water on and off quickly so it sounds as if she is washing them. Lately she has not even been using water. She just runs her hand over the auto paper towel dispenser and wipes her hands on the towel.

She also has a very bad hygiene problem. She smells so bad that you can hardly be near her. You can plainly see that her clothing is dirty. She also has chronic infections that add to the odor. This is a very delicate situation as she is also physically challenged, and she comes from an agency that helps place challenged employees. She is a hard worker and everyone likes her.

At Christmas, all the employees took up a collection and put together a basketful of household items like soaps, detergents, towels, shampoos, etc. Our human resources department contacted her agency and informed them of the situation. They were supposed to have talked with her, but we have not noticed any change.

We even had our health and wellness department come talk to the entire department about the importance of washing your hands properly. We have exhausted all possible solutions, all to no avail. We don’t want to hurt this lady’s feelings, but we don’t feel we should have to be exposed to unhealthy working conditions. Do you have any ideas?-- Baffled at Work

DEAR BAFFLED: A basket of products doesn’t help if the person in question doesn’t know how (or is unable) to clean herself or her clothing, but I give you all a lot of credit for being so sensitive and generous about it.

I have spoken to professional managers who have had to tackle the hygiene issue with workers. Your manager or HR representative should do this privately with your co-worker and be compassionate and specific about what she needs to do. If this co-worker doesn’t have laundry facilities where she lives, this might be a significant obstacle. The placement agency should be proactive and helpful and should follow through with the employee.

DEAR AMY: You answered a question from a “Mom” regarding her 13-year-old son losing his retainer. She wanted him to be financially responsible for its replacement.

I think your answer was a little off-base — merely telling kids that if they lose something they are financially responsible gives them little incentive to replace it, especially if they didn’t want it in the first place.

In this case, if the son doesn’t pay for a new retainer, guess what? He doesn’t need to wear the stupid retainer anymore.

What is at issue here is not the cost of the retainer, but the responsibility of taking care of something. I’d tell the mom to make this about responsibility.“If you lose your retainer again, I’ll have to assume you’re not responsible enough to do X.” Taking away something the kid actually wants will probably go further than trying to have him pay for something — especially because this young kid doesn’t have access to funds.-- Lisa

DEAR LISA: I agree with your solution. The child needs to see the connection and understand that this is about responsibility. Thank you.

Dear Amy:“Joan” was a 50-year-old reader who wants to spend her parents’ gift (money) on a trip to India. Her retirement fund is less than half of what she will need for retirement. It’s also clear that she hasn’t budgeted monthly for car repairs and other out-of-pocket expenses. In your answer, you encourage her to go.

She’s 50 and the clock is ticking! How will she feel about the trip she took when she turns 70 when she can’t afford to retire? Maybe there are other ways she can experience Indian food, culture, history and art without spending the entire sum of money. When her “health slows her down,” she may wish she had kept a rainy-day fund.-- Realistic Reader

DEAR REALISTIC: Your argument is very logical and realistic, but there are also times when you have to go for it. I hope she does.
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LW2 - You CAN make the kid financially responsible if he/she has an allowance. Inform your child that if he/she loses something of value that you have to replace, you will replace it, and his/her allowance will pay for it. I did it with my daughter. She kept losing her jackets at school. Sometimes we found them, and sometimes we didn't. After she lost three jackets in two months last winter, I told her that, first, she had to have a jacket in the winter because it was cold; second, I wasn't made of money and I couldn't keep buying her replacements; third, I was going to buy her a new rather cheap but serviceable jacket, but the allowance she had been saving for a special toy was going to pay for it, and she would have to start saving anew. Then I bought her the said jacket. Problem solved - she has not lost another jacket in a year.

LW3 - She'll feel like she's has done something amazing, wonderful, and enjoyable at least once in her life. And who knows if she'll live to 70? She may have a stroke at 69 and keel over. Or she may eat a bad whelk in India and die of food poisoning. Her money - her decisions.

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Feb 24, 2013
 
L1: I agree with Amy. I have a coworker who washes her hands only when someone is watching. I know to use a paper towel to open the washroom door now b/c I don't trust what she touches. She also smells bad and her hair is disgusting 4 of the 5 workdays. I try to stay away from her as much as possible. HR recently spoke to her about her clothing and that got a tiny bit better.

L2: This is a good suggestion for those kids who aren't into money nor earn an allowance. Believe me, some kids don't care about money.

L3: I'm with Cass.

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Feb 24, 2013
 
Toj wrote:
L1: I agree with Amy. I have a coworker who washes her hands only when someone is watching.
How do you know she doesn't wash when you're not watching?
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I know to use a paper towel to open the washroom door now b/c I don't trust what she touches.
That's a wise idea regardless of if you know of one specific person who does not wash. Whether I witness it or not, I assume public bthrooms are well travelled by people who don't wash their hands.

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Feb 25, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
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How do you know she doesn't wash when you're not watching?
<quoted text>That's a wise idea regardless of if you know of one specific person who does not wash. Whether I witness it or not, I assume public bthrooms are well travelled by people who don't wash their hands.
We don't have THAT many people using the washroom on our floor and it's all people at our place.

I believe she only does it when someone is watching b/c I've been in there when she didn't know I was there and she walked out without washing. I also have seen her go to the door and then when someone walks in she quickly diverts to the sink.

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