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#61 May 13, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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So if you're gay, you qualify for none of this? Funny, I know a couple of gay people who enjoy some of the benefits listed here. Guess you're wrong, try again.
It depends on the law in the specific state. These are FEDERAL rules. In Washington you can't be fired for being gay, but in Idaho (right next door) you can. There is no federal law that says it can't be done. You know, kind of like the federal law that says you can't be fired for being black? That wasn't always the way it was. Different states had different laws and in a lot of them it was legal to fire (or not hire) someone simply for the color of their skin.

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#62 May 13, 2013
RACE wrote:
Honestly dog....
Besides yourself, how many gay peeps do you actually know?
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*snort*

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#63 May 13, 2013
rings90 wrote:
I have the paperwork in for fafsa.
It just seems odd when the financial advisors ask you how many kids you have & when you answer none the response is that's too bad you'd be eligible for more money if you did. It feels like I'm being punished for the choice not to have children. Its not an equal playing field.
If I worked less hours I'd be closer to the poverty level. I guess there's some kind of a credit if you're at that level. Its not really up for discussion as I have to work min. 25hrs a week to make rent & gas.
Yeah having kids (or just more people) dependent upon your income for their support means you would qualify for more need based money. It's an equal playing field and really not that complicated.

Ex: You have 500.00 monthly income and only one person to support so you need X dollars to reach the poverty level (because that's as high as they want you to go) but if you have 2 people, you need Y dollars because the poverty level for 2 people is a higher dollar amount, and so on and so forth for more people.

Since each family earns 500.00 in income, then the financial aid assistance will be more for those with larger families so that everyone can live at the poverty level.

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#64 May 13, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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It depends on the law in the specific state. These are FEDERAL rules. In Washington you can't be fired for being gay, but in Idaho (right next door) you can. There is no federal law that says it can't be done. You know, kind of like the federal law that says you can't be fired for being black? That wasn't always the way it was. Different states had different laws and in a lot of them it was legal to fire (or not hire) someone simply for the color of their skin.
Good post. It's lost on him. Like truth, facts, logic, and good debate always are lost on him.

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#65 May 13, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Good post. It's lost on him. Like truth, facts, logic, and good debate always are lost on him.
I know...I know...<sigh> I have more pressing things to do anyway. Revising three papers right now. Well not RIGHT now, too tired for that, but you know what I mean.

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#66 May 14, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry, when did I zig to amnesty?
I never said you did. But are you aware the gay rights groups are trying to tack themselves onto the immigration bill?

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#67 May 14, 2013
I don't agree that gays should get EVERY benefit hetero couples enjoy. Marriage is between one man and one woman. I support giving them SOME of the benefits, but not all. As a single man, I don't qualify for all those benefits either. Boo hoo, cry me a river.

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#68 May 14, 2013
Care to state a specific?
edogxxx wrote:
I don't agree that gays should get EVERY benefit hetero couples enjoy. Marriage is between one man and one woman. I support giving them SOME of the benefits, but not all. As a single man, I don't qualify for all those benefits either. Boo hoo, cry me a river.

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#69 May 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
Care to state a specific?
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He can't.

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#70 May 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
I don't agree that gays should get EVERY benefit hetero couples enjoy.
If they are married, why not? What reasonable objection do you have to all married couples having all of the same rights? Oh that's right, your homophobia.
edogxxx wrote:
is between one man and one woman.


Apparently many people, and now 13 states, and Canada, disagree with you. It's a CIVIL CONTRACT, period. Gender shouldn't be an issue. You are just icked out by the idea of buttfucking.
edogxxx wrote:
giving them SOME of the benefits, but not all.
You don't get to cherry pick which benefits they are entitled to. They are not sub-human. Either married or not married. No in-between.
edogxxx wrote:
As a single man, I don't qualify for all those benefits either. Boo hoo, cry me a river.
You don't have the same stuff because you are SINGLE. Get married (when they allow blow up dolls to consent to marriage that is) and you will have all those same rights.

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#71 May 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
You don't have the same stuff because you are SINGLE. Get married (when they allow blow up dolls to consent to marriage that is) and you will have all those same rights.
Firstly, I'm not homophobic and I challenge you to find any evidence to the contrary. Secondly THIS IS MY POINT! You can't just arbitrarily decide that that anyone can marry anything and then qualify for all types of benefits. That's why we have rules on marriage in the first place.

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#72 May 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
Care to state a specific?
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I don't know what all these rights are that I'm missing out on.

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#73 May 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Firstly, I'm not homophobic and I challenge you to find any evidence to the contrary. Secondly THIS IS MY POINT! You can't just arbitrarily decide that that anyone can marry anything and then qualify for all types of benefits. That's why we have rules on marriage in the first place.
Not anyTHING, anyONE. No one is saying that you can marry your blow up doll, though that's the only "woman" I can reasonably see going along with your mindset, they are saying that anyONE can marry anyONE else. Seriously, what the hell do you care? Really, how does it affect yOUR life. It DOESN'T. It has no relevance to your life whatsoever. So freaking what?

Do you think that not allowing gays to marry is going to stop them being gay? Think (haha I told you to "think') about it this way. If they get married, have a legally binding civil contract, just like all the hetero people who do likewise, then they can't just up a flit around from one partner to another with no accountability. Not that they won't, just like heteros that screw around on each other, but they would be accountable legally and financially for screwing around. What a concept.

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#74 May 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Firstly, I'm not homophobic and I challenge you to find any evidence to the contrary. Secondly THIS IS MY POINT! You can't just arbitrarily decide that that anyone can marry anything and then qualify for all types of benefits. That's why we have rules on marriage in the first place.
You can't have it both ways, dog.

You may not be outraged that people here think you're homophobic and then within the same paragraph call gay people "things."

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#75 May 14, 2013
Or say that a boy will turn out gay if his parents are divorced or he doesn't have a strong male role model in his life.

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#76 May 14, 2013
Then how do you know your missing out on anything?
edogxxx wrote:
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I don't know what all these rights are that I'm missing out on.

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#77 May 14, 2013
squishymama wrote:
then within the same paragraph call gay people "things."
Um, kindly show me where I did?

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#78 May 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Really, how does it affect yOUR life. It DOESN'T. It has no relevance to your life whatsoever. So freaking what?
That's not the point. It wouldn't effect you if I married a horse, so by your logic, I should be able to, right?

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#79 May 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Do you think that not allowing gays to marry is going to stop them being gay?.
No.

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#80 May 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Um, kindly show me where I did?
"You can't just arbitrarily decide that that anyone can marry anything and then qualify for all types of benefits."

Right here.

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