15 teens arrested in brawls after Pro...

15 teens arrested in brawls after Proviso basketball game in Hi...

There are 172 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 23, 2008, titled 15 teens arrested in brawls after Proviso basketball game in Hi.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Fifteen teenagers were arrested and two police officers were injured Tuesday night in Hillside during a round of brawls outside Proviso West High School after a basketball game against rival Proviso East, ...

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Jasmine

Westmont, IL

#76 Jan 23, 2008
i go to proviso west it aint nuthin they can do thats gone stop them from fighting no matter how many games they cancel.this aint the first time it happened they just jumped on a teacher last week they cant stop them they dont care they got what they deserved all the teacher n police they lame dirty cops

Since: Nov 07

Chicago

#77 Jan 23, 2008
walter wrote:
white people are the racist people on earth white kids are not angels half of them want to be black where are the white parents when white do wrong driving into trees killing everybody in the car after mom gave them drinks white parents are to busy having sex with 5th graders
You just keep beleiving in your crap. Meanwhile we racist mean whites will keep our neighborhoods up, educate and disipline our children, work hard and protect them from people like you. You can it whatever you want but here's a great example of who the racist are. If I walked through say Englewood in Chicago right now, this very minute, I would have a 8 in 10 chance of being shot dead. If a black walked through my neighberhood, noone would touch him....And who's violent?
Commando

Akron, OH

#78 Jan 23, 2008
Tez wrote:
Feet Wet...wasn't it just recently (2007) that a Teacher from Hinsdale C got convited of sexual assualt against his students? Wasn't it a group of kids from Burr Ridge that attended Hinsdale C that sexually assaulted a girl, on video, and then 1 of them fled the country until they all got aquitted because the girl was deemed "drunk but consential"? Come on Kate, Dan and the rest of you shut ins...I can spit stats and crime stats too, from Hoffman Estates (leader in underage DUI convictions) and Elmhurt (which every other Police Blotter insert is man from Elmhurst was arrested for DUI and Drug possession). I'm just saying, don't look at a High School fight as people having no class. And Dan, I see your wife Kate joins your thinking. FYI...Macy's has a White Sheet sell coming up. make sure you guys stock up. Would hate for you to show up in dingy hoods.
The assault you reference happened at a hotel along 55, but the majority of the offenders and participants were from Brookfield. You are correct about the perp fleeing to Europe (I believe) for several years.
The Coz

Chicago, IL

#79 Jan 23, 2008
The Mad Hatter wrote:
Quick, somebody call Bill Cosby.
This is the Coz and in my day we didn't fight in schools, we learned in them. Now you have the kids with their baggy jeans and the flee farn filth with the rapping and the capping and the parents are to blame. So before you stick your spoon in the pudding...you better be ready to raise your little monsters.(eyes rolling in head as he looks up smiling)
Full Circle

Chicago, IL

#80 Jan 23, 2008
walter wrote:
white people are the racist people on earth white kids are not angels half of them want to be black where are the white parents when white do wrong driving into trees killing everybody in the car after mom gave them drinks white parents are to busy having sex with 5th graders
What a well thought, grammatically correct statement. Are you a Proviso alum Walter?

Since: Nov 07

Chicago

#81 Jan 23, 2008
Jasmine wrote:
i go to proviso west it aint nuthin they can do thats gone stop them from fighting no matter how many games they cancel.this aint the first time it happened they just jumped on a teacher last week they cant stop them they dont care they got what they deserved all the teacher n police they lame dirty cops
This post is for everyone who's been bashing me for being a racist....Here's a fine student from this school speaking. I rest my case.
Full Circle

Chicago, IL

#82 Jan 23, 2008
Jasmine wrote:
i go to proviso west it aint nuthin they can do thats gone stop them from fighting no matter how many games they cancel.this aint the first time it happened they just jumped on a teacher last week they cant stop them they dont care they got what they deserved all the teacher n police they lame dirty cops
Another example of wasted tax dollars, thank you Jasmine for providing an example of the academic atmosphere we can expect in yet another neighborhood all of the "homies" have ruined. Great Job. Dirty cops?? How about dirty scumbag drug dealing gangbangers who can't afford a buck for a condom??
Steve

United States

#83 Jan 23, 2008
Dan-Chicago wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me one area in the entire U.S that is 80% or above minority population and what do you see? Great neighborhoods? Good schools? Smart children? gang free environments? Give me one and I'll shut up.
How about Hawaii? Does that qualify as a U.S. area, or are you going to fine-tune your parameters again for your own convenience? And how the hell do you first say you're throwing statistics out, and then wag a number like 80%? What is the matter with you?

Follow this link to discover how many logical fallacies you've tripped over:

http://www.philosophicalsociety.com/Logical%2...
True

Massapequa, NY

#84 Jan 23, 2008
More statistics. Facts. Truth.

According to the latest available results, provided to the Review through a Freedom of Information Act request, Proviso East 12th graders in 2004 tested at the equivalent of a 9.3 grade level, placing them at a national percentile of 25.3 when compared to other students taking the Terra Nova...

...The results are especially concerning in the vocabulary portion of the test, where in 2004 Proviso East 12th graders scored at a 3.8 grade level, and in math comprehension, where they scored at a 4.5 level. These scores place Proviso East students at the 2nd and 1st national percentile, respectively.

http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp...
Cool Grey

Prairie Village, KS

#85 Jan 23, 2008
walter wrote:
white people are the racist people on earth white kids are not angels half of them want to be black where are the white parents when white do wrong driving into trees killing everybody in the car after mom gave them drinks white parents are to busy having sex with 5th graders
Walter-

You might not want to make comments in these forums. Trust me, you're not helping your cause.
COMMON SENSE

Chicago, IL

#86 Jan 23, 2008
MeThinks you are right but some people in this world actually believe the O'Reilly and Hannity's of the world who blame America's problems on foreigners and hip hop. White kids don't get in trouble in their world. That's why their world has such a high suicide rate...when reality sets in their world comes crashing down pretty hard.
reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Take it from a parent of a high schooler (public, mostly white, "blue ribbon"), the white kids do their share of serious brawling (and then some) on school property, on a daily basis... but the public relations (paid out of school board funds) is such that these incidents don't get reported to the newspapers. Money talks. Methinks if the police were not injured in the Proviso incident, we wouldn't have read about it in the Tribune.
Alex

United States

#87 Jan 23, 2008
I go to proviso west and i heard the a girl was taserd wit a stun gun for just being there i think it was police brulality
Feet Wet

Englewood, CO

#88 Jan 23, 2008
Tez wrote:
Feet Wet...wasn't it just recently (2007) that a Teacher from Hinsdale C got convited of sexual assualt against his students? Wasn't it a group of kids from Burr Ridge that attended Hinsdale C that sexually assaulted a girl, on video, and then 1 of them fled the country until they all got aquitted because the girl was deemed "drunk but consential"? Come on Kate, Dan and the rest of you shut ins...I can spit stats and crime stats too, from Hoffman Estates (leader in underage DUI convictions) and Elmhurt (which every other Police Blotter insert is man from Elmhurst was arrested for DUI and Drug possession). I'm just saying, don't look at a High School fight as people having no class. And Dan, I see your wife Kate joins your thinking. FYI...Macy's has a White Sheet sell coming up. make sure you guys stock up. Would hate for you to show up in dingy hoods.
Tez, you got a good point. I'm packing and moving north. The futher south you go the dirtier it gets. Sorry about the no talent *** clown comment, I was watching officespace and haven't been able to clear it from the mind. can't we all just get along. enjoy your day!
COMMON SENSE

Chicago, IL

#89 Jan 23, 2008
If you walk through Englewood you would have an 8 in 10 chance of being solicited for drugs. That's why white people go to Englewood. If I drive out to your suburb I've got about an 8 in 10 chance of being racially profiled, pulled over for driving while black, having my car searched because I fit the description of someone wanted and then I'd be beaten to a pulp. Of course, non of this would reach the media unless one of your neighbors taped it and sent it to channel 2, 5, or 7 (Fox news won't show it). I'm a Proviso East alumni and the problem is truely with the parents. Most have given up or never even started parenting. People don't want to admit it but it is the truth. As far as the racist remarks about animals and how we kill each other, well...these are the types of people who raise kids that go to school, get bullied, don't know how to handle it because mom and dad are too busy at republican fundraisers to spend time with their kids. The kids start making home made bombs (thank the science teacher) and get all of dads fire arms and go to school the next dat to take innocent lives because they didn't get the attention they wanted from mommy and daddy or they didn't get the car they wanted or a girlfriend broke up with them. BOTTOM LINE: WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS. Let's work together to fix them.
Dan-Chicago wrote:
<quoted text>
You just keep beleiving in your crap. Meanwhile we racist mean whites will keep our neighborhoods up, educate and disipline our children, work hard and protect them from people like you. You can it whatever you want but here's a great example of who the racist are. If I walked through say Englewood in Chicago right now, this very minute, I would have a 8 in 10 chance of being shot dead. If a black walked through my neighberhood, noone would touch him....And who's violent?
reader

New York, NY

#90 Jan 23, 2008
Dan-Chicago wrote:
<quoted text>
This post is for everyone who's been bashing me for being a racist....Here's a fine student from this school speaking. I rest my case.
ROFLAO!!! ; )
TOM SLICK

Chicago, IL

#91 Jan 23, 2008
Shelly wrote:
<quoted text>
Tom Slick please take no offense to what I'm about to ask because I truly mean nothing by this, but what does your nephew going to Oak Park have to do with anything? Couldn't you have just left your explanation to the cops as is? That you were there to pick up your nephew.
He went to the game and I just had a feeling something would go down. Considering he has a four year scholarship to college already, I was there to pick him up to make sure nothing happened to him, and his two friends. I was not going to let him get caught up in the bs that went down and mess up his chance to be something great as an adult.
COMMON SENSE

Chicago, IL

#92 Jan 23, 2008
Dan-Chicago wrote:
<quoted text>
Really, open a paper in Chicago sometime. The chicago public school system has how many murders in the first month of the new year? How many in privatew schools, zero.....Doesn't happen where? Give me a school with an 80% minority population anywhere in the U.S and I'll look at the data.....Are you another person living in a bubble? Go to the Bureau of Justice Statistics and run a report for your area, then tell me how dumb I am.
This isn't a Chicago Public School but I'm sure with your statistical background, you knew that. Remember, parents should in know way be related..or this guy could be the result.
TOM SLICK

Chicago, IL

#93 Jan 23, 2008
Shelly wrote:
<quoted text>
If they quit making laws that take away the parents right to chastise their children, the police wouldn't have to go upside their heads. I'd go upside my own children's heads if I didn't think I was going to jail for it.
You raise your children the old school way. Damn what the government say you can and cannot do to your child. When I was 10 my mother hit me on the head at sears when they were on homan avenue. A cop was in the store and told my mother he could arrest her. She told him, this is my damn child and you cannot tell me how to discipline him. If I don't handle this now, when he is 18 and go out and kill someone, the first thing you would say is bad parenting, and it's my fault for not doing my job. The cop walked away, and I got hit again. So, I learned a valuable lesson, don't muck with mom anywhere. She said I could call the police, but I would have to go live with them. I love my mother, but I also feared her. I didn't learn how to spell peer pressure until I was out of college. I was more afraid of what she would do to many then any of my friends. That's why are kids act the way they do in public because parents are to scared to beat their kids down when they need it. That's why we have so many teen pregnancies, gang bangers, drug dealers, thieves and so on and so forth. If our race don't pull it together and stop trying to compare what others do, well you know the answer to that. Just keeping it real.
Jeeez

Addison, IL

#94 Jan 23, 2008
walter wrote:
white people are the racist people on earth white kids are not angels half of them want to be black where are the white parents when white do wrong driving into trees killing everybody in the car after mom gave them drinks white parents are to busy having sex with 5th graders
Try a comma or period once in awhile Walter,you're showing a lack of intelligence there boy.
Jeeez

Addison, IL

#95 Jan 23, 2008
TOM SLICK wrote:
<quoted text>You raise your children the old school way. Damn what the government say you can and cannot do to your child. When I was 10 my mother hit me on the head at sears when they were on homan avenue. A cop was in the store and told my mother he could arrest her. She told him, this is my damn child and you cannot tell me how to discipline him. If I don't handle this now, when he is 18 and go out and kill someone, the first thing you would say is bad parenting, and it's my fault for not doing my job. The cop walked away, and I got hit again. So, I learned a valuable lesson, don't muck with mom anywhere. She said I could call the police, but I would have to go live with them. I love my mother, but I also feared her. I didn't learn how to spell peer pressure until I was out of college. I was more afraid of what she would do to many then any of my friends. That's why are kids act the way they do in public because parents are to scared to beat their kids down when they need it. That's why we have so many teen pregnancies, gang bangers, drug dealers, thieves and so on and so forth. If our race don't pull it together and stop trying to compare what others do, well you know the answer to that. Just keeping it real.
Well said T.S.,Well said.

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