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#61 Oct 13, 2011
Cass wrote:
<quoted text> Yup. Of course, it is easy for me to say since I don't have any siblings, but donating a kidney is a major surgery, and like any major surgery it carries with it a possibility of serious complications. While living kidney donors die extremely rarely, they do occasionally die or become incapacitated. Small as the risk is, keeping my body whole is important to me unless it is for my kids. For them, I'd donate whatever organ they needed even if it killed me.
As someone willing to give up her kidney to a stranger... I totally support your stance on this. 100%.

“I Am Mine”

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#62 Oct 13, 2011
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think anyone is criticizing him for not wanting to donate his kidney. They are criticizing him for shooting from the hip, when it comes to facts.
Would you really watch a sibling die before you gave them a kidney?
I sorta like having both my kidneys, but I couldn't watch a close relative die and not give them my kidney.
Sibling? No. I only have one. Cousin? Would not even consider it for a second.

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#63 Oct 13, 2011
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>
1. comparing lungs to kidneys makes no sense.
2. Wrong again. The remaining kidney steps up in function and takes on all the work. When you have two kidneys, each is doing 50-75% of the work. When you remove one, the other steps up to the plate and does it all.
You seem to have done your homework on this. Admittedly, I have not, because I have no desire to subject myself to any kind of surgery un-necessarily, and therefore no need to know anything about donating a kidney. So let me ask you, the people that need a kidney transplant as adults, are they generally people who have always had kidney problems and the original ones finally gave out? Or any of them people who developed kidney problems well into adulthood? That would be my main concern. I may be healthy right now, but what if what happened to them happens to me after I've given one away? Or are kidney problemssomething you struggle with right from the get go?
Julie

Chicago, IL

#64 Oct 13, 2011
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such an ignorant, foot-in-the-mouth dipshit. You have absolutely NO CLUE what you are talking about.
Sam, you and a few others persist in feeding The Troll.

Keep feeding him, and you get what you deserve.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#65 Oct 13, 2011
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Yup. There are risks. Who knew?:::hands on cheeks:::
That's life.
There are also risks when you willingly jump out of a perfectly functioning airplane.

There are risks when you cross the street...That's life. But there are some risks you can avoid.

“...,to wit”

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#66 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
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I don't buy those BS links for one second! FAIL!
YOU are the ignorant dipsht! Try doing some actual research instead of relying on wikipedia.
Sorry Dog, stylistic presentation aside, she has good sources cited.
A good friend was born with only one kidney. His sole limitation was the need to be moderate in his drinking. I realize Race would think this a world ending condition but Rich is in his late 60's now and hs no apparent health issues from the lack of a kidney

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Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#67 Oct 13, 2011
PEllen wrote:
Rich is in his late 60's now and hs no apparent health issues from the lack of a kidney
And he's probly lived his life pzzed because he had to "moderate" his drinking! That'd be enough to drive most mortal men insane!

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#68 Oct 13, 2011
Julie wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam, you and a few others persist in feeding The Troll.
Because they're hopelessly in love with me. They WANT what they deserve!
pde

Davis Junction, IL

#69 Oct 13, 2011
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>That would be my main concern. I may be healthy right now, but what if what happened to them happens to me after I've given one away? Or are kidney problemssomething you struggle with right from the get go?
It's instead that any problems you develop as an adult are most likely going to take out both your kidneys at the same time/via the same process. Basically, it'll be the same outcome whether you have one or two ... serious kidney problems developed as an adult are going to most likely lead to you needing a transplant yourself.

Kidneys don't tend to be affected or diseased singly.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#70 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
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And he's probly lived his life pzzed because he had to "moderate" his drinking! That'd be enough to drive most mortal men insane!
Nope. He is an easy going guy who likes good food and wines. He and I share a similar information base: the main identifiable side effect is that he is about 5'6".

By the way, I tend to agree with you. I have an instinctive revulsion about giving a part of my living body away. But the science is there to support those who are willing
Kuuipo

Salinas, CA

#71 Oct 13, 2011
My good friend's sister had a kidney transplant. Their brother was the donor, and the doctors told him to lose weight before they would consider using him as the donor. He did. Now both brother and sister are healthier. And that's my feel good story for the night. :-)

Since: Jun 09

Bolingbrook, IL

#72 Oct 14, 2011
I can only speak for myself, but I have an autoimmune disease that has destroyed my kidneys. I have known about it for a little over 10 years and it was just simmering all those years until last winter when things took a quick turn for the worse and I had to start dialysis and get listed for a transplant. No one knows why the poop hit the fan when it did.

That's really one of the problems with kidney disease. It's slow to develop and the symptoms are usually very mild until the end. For me, it was just hypertension and a slightly eleveated creatnine level, both of which were carefully watched by my doctors. Out of nowhere, I started retaining fluid badly (gained 30 lbs quickly!) and I was so full of toxins and fluid that I could barely walk, sleep or eat. Started dialysis and lost 15 lbs. in a week and boy did I feel better.

From everything I understand, if you are a live donor and develop kidney problems yourself in later life, you are automatically put at the top of the deceased donor list.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> So let me ask you, the people that need a kidney transplant as adults, are they generally people who have always had kidney problems and the original ones finally gave out? Or any of them people who developed kidney problems well into adulthood? That would be my main concern. I may be healthy right now, but what if what happened to them happens to me after I've given one away? Or are kidney problemssomething you struggle with right from the get go?

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#73 Oct 14, 2011
My dog died of kidney disease. The symptoms are subtle and I mistook them for age-related issues (she was 12).

“...,to wit”

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#74 Oct 14, 2011
cattlekid wrote:
I can only speak for myself, but I have an autoimmune disease that has destroyed my kidneys. I have known about it for a little over 10 years and it was just simmering all those years until last winter when things took a quick turn for the worse and I had to start dialysis and get listed for a transplant. No one knows why the poop hit the fan when it did.
That's really one of the problems with kidney disease. It's slow to develop and the symptoms are usually very mild until the end. For me, it was just hypertension and a slightly eleveated creatnine level, both of which were carefully watched by my doctors. Out of nowhere, I started retaining fluid badly (gained 30 lbs quickly!) and I was so full of toxins and fluid that I could barely walk, sleep or eat. Started dialysis and lost 15 lbs. in a week and boy did I feel better.
From everything I understand, if you are a live donor and develop kidney problems yourself in later life, you are automatically put at the top of the deceased donor list.
<quoted text>
The one absolute guaranty to get Social Security Disability and eventually Medicare, regardless of age is to have a diagnosis of end stage renal disease.

I am sorry to hear you drew the short stick Cattlekid. I hope you find your kidney
Sam I Am

Schaumburg, IL

#75 Oct 14, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
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I admitted no such thing. That all you got? And maybe YOU rely solely on what some doctor tells you without applying your own experiences and knowledge (because we all know doctors are never wrong), but I do not.
You certainly did. Your words from your post:

Cause I sure as hell didn't know two people personally who had only one kidney (FOR WHATEVER REASON)

As I explained in very clear terms previously, if you don't know why they only had one kidney, then you don't know anything meaningful.

I love how, when it suits your argument, you are so willing to ignorantly embrace something some guy said instead of acknowledging hundreds of thousands of hours of scientific research and the findings of the preeminent authority in a given field.
Sam I Am

Schaumburg, IL

#76 Oct 14, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
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Yeah, that's right, fktard. When it comes to facts, I "shoot from the hip" because I already explained that I have gained no knowledge of ANYTHING throughout the course of my lifetime.
Even a dunderhead like you knows the difference between a fact and an opinion, right?

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#77 Oct 14, 2011
Sam I Am wrote:
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Even a dunderhead like you knows the difference between a fact and an opinion, right?
Nope.

“What's it to ya?”

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#78 Oct 14, 2011
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
Even a dunderhead like you knows the difference between a fact and an opinion, right?
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>Nope.
*snort*

Since: Jun 09

Bolingbrook, IL

#79 Oct 14, 2011
Thanks PEllen. I'm putting off Medicare as long as possible. I'm still working full time and carrying private insurance. Gotta keep the other half insured, ya know. The amount of money my insurance company is paying the dialysis center is just short of obscene compared to what Medicare will be paying them when I am forced to switch to Medicare primary in a couple more years.
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>The one absolute guaranty to get Social Security Disability and eventually Medicare, regardless of age is to have a diagnosis of end stage renal disease.
I am sorry to hear you drew the short stick Cattlekid. I hope you find your kidney

Since: Aug 08

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#80 Oct 14, 2011
Cass wrote:
<quoted text> Yup. Of course, it is easy for me to say since I don't have any siblings, but donating a kidney is a major surgery, and like any major surgery it carries with it a possibility of serious complications. While living kidney donors die extremely rarely, they do occasionally die or become incapacitated. Small as the risk is, keeping my body whole is important to me unless it is for my kids. For them, I'd donate whatever organ they needed even if it killed me.
I think that since you don't have siblings that it's hard for you to know what you would do. So, let's look to your parents. I don't know how old you are, but lets you are 30, and mom is 48 and she needs your kidney or she dies. Are you gonna say, sorry mom, I'll help you pick out your casket, but I won't give you one of my kidneys?

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