Since: Jun 09

Bolingbrook, IL

#21 Oct 13, 2011
I have sent you a PM. Thank you very much!!!!!
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>
I've offered my kidney to two different unrelated people, but both found matches from family members. I feel need to keep both kidneys.
My blood type is O positive. If you are, too, we can talk.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#22 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
We were born with two kidneys for a reason. Giving one up can lead to heath issues and drastically shorten your lifespan.
COMPLETELY WRONG. People with one kidney leave full, normal, active lives with the same life expectancy as everybody with one kidney. This is true of people who donate a kidney, lose one (illness or injury), or who are born with only one.

And if a donor ever ends up needing a new kidney for some reason, that person goes to the TOP of the waiting list. Of the few times this has happened, no former donor has ever had to wait. They get the first kidney that comes available in their region.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#23 Oct 13, 2011
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such an ignorant, foot-in-the-mouth dipshit. You have absolutely NO CLUE what you are talking about.
"According to the Cleveland Clinic, kidney donors are at no greater risk for future health problems than those with two kidneys. Kidney donation also does not change life expectancy for the donors."
Took me 4 seconds to find that.
Conclusion from this:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa08...
"Survival and the risk of ESRD in carefully screened kidney donors appear to be similar to those in the general population. Most donors who were studied had a preserved GFR, normal albumin excretion, and an excellent quality of life."
That was 9 seconds.
And this from the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/kidney-donat...
Research has shown that there's little long-term risk for kidney donation, provided you're carefully screened before becoming a donor.
Phew, that was another 10 seconds. This educating yourself is a real burden.
Oh, thanks. I knew all that, but typed a much shorter response to him. I'm glad you covered the factual bases!:)

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#24 Oct 13, 2011
I have researched this a lot -- sam is completely right. I have offered my kidney to two people (unrelated) and went through the orientation program here in town. I've received bundles of information, researched on my own (for my own protection).

Donating a kidney has never been easier. They used to cut you open from the middle of your back to the middle of your front. Recovery for the donor was worse than for the recipient--6 weeks being at home, in bed, and needing help to go to the bathroom. Now, it's done with 2-3 incisions, typically laproscopically (sp?) and you're not even out from work for a week.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#25 Oct 13, 2011
cattlekid wrote:
I have sent you a PM. Thank you very much!!!!!
<quoted text>
Got it, thanks! And YW! I emailed you at gmail!

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#26 Oct 13, 2011
Mimi Seattle wrote:
<quoted text>
O...M...G!!
Your references, when your deign to provide them, are from specious sources and conspiracy theory sites. Sam posts info from THE MAYO CLINIC and you cast aspersions on it. Really dude? Really!
<where the HELL is the "idiot" button on this thing?>
It's on his forehead.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#27 Oct 13, 2011
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>It's on his forehead.
The button is really hard to push, too, so you need a hammer.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Brooklyn, NY

#28 Oct 13, 2011
Fine. I'm not gonna argue this. It's not MY kidney I'm giving up. I wish you luck and hope you're right.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#29 Oct 13, 2011
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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The button is really hard to push, too, so you need a hammer.
Ha! Now I'm hearing "bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer..." in my head.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#30 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
Fine. I'm not gonna argue this. It's not MY kidney I'm giving up. I wish you luck and hope you're right.
Hey I'm with you as far as the right to chose to be or not be a donor. I think I mentioned before that I didn't allow Christopher to be a donor when they asked. No problems there. I don't think anyone (reasonable) would argue against your right to choose to not donate. That isn't the issue.

The issue is that you are ill informed (quelle surprise) and spouting off like you know something (quelle surprise encore) and then when someone supplies RELIABLE information you say that it's just BS (quelle surprise encore encore!)!

You are just being your normal obtuse douchebaggy self. No one is REALLY surprised.
Cass

Upland, CA

#31 Oct 13, 2011
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>
somewhere in there is a father with no spine or say.
Really? They were both his kids. If told to choose between my two children, I would not be able to make that choice. Ever.
Sam I Am

Schaumburg, IL

#32 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't buy those BS links for one second! FAIL!
YOU are the ignorant dipsht! Try doing some actual research instead of relying on wikipedia.
BS links? Really? The Mayo flippin' Clinic? The New England Journal of Medicine? Where did you see Wikipedia in there? Your daddy must have put his cigs out in the soft spot of your infant head, because brain damage is the only plausible explanation for your special brand of ignorance.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#33 Oct 13, 2011
Mimi Seattle wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha! Now I'm hearing "bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer..." in my head.
LOL!!!
Sam I Am

Schaumburg, IL

#34 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
Fine. I'm not gonna argue this. It's not MY kidney I'm giving up. I wish you luck and hope you're right.
Here, I'll say it for you. "You're right, guys, I was talking out of my uninformed, belligerant ass with absolutely no substantive basis. I was just making up stuff to support my uneducated, preconceived notions on a topic about which I know less than I do about how to please a woman or exercise grace and sophistication in a social setting. I apologize. It will not happen again for at least 30 minutes."

Since: Nov 09

Wisconsin

#35 Oct 13, 2011
LW1: I would donate to my little sister immediately, if she needed it, because I don't think I could live with myself if I didn't. However, that's my personal choice, my personal feelings, my personal everything. I think it's disgusting and rotten when families put pressure on someone else (especially kids!) to donate, as though it's their "duty." The LW is going to have to walk a fine line on this one. I would say never ASK the older brother -- what a position that puts him in! What's he supposed to say? "No thanks"? Make sure he knows all the details, and see if he volunteers. If he doesn't, well...

I agree with Sam/Mimi/others who think that Edog is, as usual, being an idiot. Good to see some things never change!:)

LW2: Don't go to management. Tammy probably just honestly doesn't realize that she's emotionally unloading on you too much. I was in a recent situation myself, and trust me, just kindly saying, "I'm sorry, but this is becoming a little much for me to handle at work. I totally understand and sympathize, but we've just got to stop rehashing now" should do the trick.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Brooklyn, NY

#36 Oct 13, 2011
Again, I'm not gonna argue this and go ahead and call me ill-informed all you wish. You're right, what the hell do I know about anything?

Cause I sure as hell didn't know two people personally who had only one kidney (for whatever reason) and one didn't make it to twenty and the other didn't make it to forty. I'm sure having only one kidney didn't contribute to any of that and it was a plethora of other, unrelated issues instead, but I don't know that either. I've been living under a sheltered rock all my life and have no actuall life experiences to bring to any discussion. I apologize. I'll return my head into the sand from which it came. Thank you.

Since: Nov 09

Wisconsin

#37 Oct 13, 2011
LOL. Oh, god. Such a typical response.

"RESEARCH? What do I care about RESEARCH? I don't CARE that scientists and doctors spent thousands of dollars and hours of time cultivating medical samples and cross-referencing hundreds of donor patients. I PERSONALLY KNEW these two guys, see, and neither of them lived long after their kidney donations. TWO PEOPLE *I* KNEW, guys. Who cares that I'm not a doctor, don't have any knowledge of their medical histories, and don't know the specifics of kidney donation! EFF science, man, I KNEW TWO PEOPLE and that makes me qualified to draw all kinds of complicated medical conclusions! I'M RIGHT, you liberal morons!"

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#38 Oct 13, 2011
edogxxx wrote:
I've been living under a sheltered rock all my life and have no actuall life experiences to bring to any discussion.
The first step is admitting it.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#39 Oct 13, 2011
Pixx wrote:
LOL. Oh, god. Such a typical response.
"RESEARCH? What do I care about RESEARCH? I don't CARE that scientists and doctors spent thousands of dollars and hours of time cultivating medical samples and cross-referencing hundreds of donor patients. I PERSONALLY KNEW these two guys, see, and neither of them lived long after their kidney donations. TWO PEOPLE *I* KNEW, guys. Who cares that I'm not a doctor, don't have any knowledge of their medical histories, and don't know the specifics of kidney donation! EFF science, man, I KNEW TWO PEOPLE and that makes me qualified to draw all kinds of complicated medical conclusions! I'M RIGHT, you liberal morons!"
ASsuming the dog is not making his 2 people story up, I'm gonna go out on a limb and back him up. I don't know about you, but when I witness something in my personal life, that has more of an impact than any research I read about in a magazine. Not saying the research is wrong, but when you've witnessed the negative flip side personally, it has a much greater impact than just being written off as a statistical improbabilty in some study.

If 2 people I knew personally were the living(dying) manifestation of this statistical improbability, you can bet your ass I would never consider such a surgery unless it was someone I was willing to sacrifice my life for. That's a VERY short list.
Jay Cutler

Richardson, TX

#40 Oct 13, 2011
Dear Abby,

I have no backbone. Is there a backbone donor organization I can contact to obtain one?

Signed,
Spineless QB

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