Okay, and you replied at various points:<quoted text>
"For a conceal carry you might need to pass a gun safety class, but I maintain that human nature guarantees that the people who are *most* dangerous are those who own a weapon, feel threatened, and carry the gun *without getting the conceal carry license*, figuring they're just going to carry it for a day or 2 while whatever situation is taken care of. This is a function of human nature. It's too late to get the permit when they feel threatened and they are going to figure that the shot of them getting caught carrying the weapon is slim, unless they have to use it and that if they have to use it, they'd rather be alive tyvm. If that even matters since their intention is more likely to be to threaten with it, not to actually shoot it.
THAT person is the one most likely to accidentally shoot someone's foot off. Due to nothing more than lack of competent training with their weapon.
There is too much gun violence that is "first time offender" by "previously law-abiding citizen" for me to stand here and say "oh! the system works fine! all law-abiding citizens maintain their law-abiding standing and this is rarely a problem!"
There is NO SUCH THING as a perfectly law-abiding citizen who has never broken a single law. We all do it in little ways where we determine the risk is worth it. Jaywalking, a red light that we took a shot on being able to make it while it was yellow, curfews, the day that separating the recycling is too much of a pain, taking an extra week to renew the registration on our car because we just couldn't get to the garage, so we drive around with an expired inspection sticker. Ordering from out of state and not declaring the purchase to avoid paying sales tax. That's now a closed loophole with new laws about when the sales tax is collected.
There are far too many loopholes in terms of background checks being performed AND what information is included in such a check.
Gun registries? Really? Please explain to me what gun registries are in place that will allow a law enforcement official to look up and identify what weapons a person owns? As a matter of practice in every state? Seriously. Prove to me that they exist and I'll drop that objection."
"And *I* maintain the people who are MOST dangerous are criminals who don't obey gun laws in the first place."
This is what you wrote. Please indicate where I said that the most dangerous people aren't criminals, when taken in the full context of what I wrote.
"WRONG. Most gun crimes are committed by people with extensive rap sheets."
Please indicate where I wrote that anything that contradicted this.
"So? Are those people more likely to go on shooting sprees?"
Please indicate where I wrote anything that said I was talking about a shooting spree, and that this is what I am concerned with reducing.