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“Checks and Balances”

Since: Apr 13

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#98429 May 2, 2014
RACE wrote:
I love the poem, but am really disappointed that it was put up with so many misspellings. At our school, the kids are taught in first grade to do a "sloppy copy" (rough draft), which the teacher corrects. They can then rewrite their final copy. This helps them review their work and learn to edit.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#98430 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
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I love the poem, but am really disappointed that it was put up with so many misspellings. At our school, the kids are taught in first grade to do a "sloppy copy" (rough draft), which the teacher corrects. They can then rewrite their final copy. This helps them review their work and learn to edit.
I agree. "Primal and deliberate" my ass. It's a kid who make a boatload of mistakes and no one told him (how) to correct them.

Since: Oct 12

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#98431 May 2, 2014
this is funny wrote:
http://www.theonion.com/video/ teen-boys-losing-virginity-ear lier-and-earlier-rep,35906/?ut m_source=Facebook&utm_medi um=SocialMarketing&utm_cam paign=LinkPreview:2:Default
That's funny....kinda like the Daily Show or Colbert, eh?....Knew a lotta guys that started pretty early, where i grew up....way back when, too.....

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#98432 May 2, 2014
Perhaps that poem thing was a contest and there could be no adult help. It's the only thing I can think of which would explain the misspellings. A first grader would normally not be very good at spelling those words.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#98433 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
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I love the poem, but am really disappointed that it was put up with so many misspellings. At our school, the kids are taught in first grade to do a "sloppy copy" (rough draft), which the teacher corrects. They can then rewrite their final copy. This helps them review their work and learn to edit.
I thought it said it was made in an after-school program, so maybe no time/help for a rough draft and editing.

I was surprised at the amount of misspelling that was allowed in Lulu's 1st grade class. But some assignments were more about process and creativity than spelling and grammar, so I just let it go and corrected where it seemed appropriate.

But I have to add that I love how kids write out what they hear. It often makes more sense, phonetically speaking.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#98434 May 2, 2014
ok, I am really blown away by this.
I just checked out dealdash, its an online auction site. Heres how it works. You buy bid packets, each bid costs sixty cents. Then you bid on a product. Each product starts at zero, and each bid raises the price of the product by a penny.

With me so far?
So there is a $200 gift card being auctioned right now the price is $160
So to get $160 in pennies, how many pennies to you need?
Well, you need 16,000 is how many you need.
That means that there have been 16,000 bids for that gift card and each bid cost 60 cents

So that $200 gift card generated $9,600 in revenue.
Amazing! I gotta start an auction site.
ScarletandOlive

Iselin, NJ

#98435 May 2, 2014
squishymama wrote:
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I thought it said it was made in an after-school program, so maybe no time/help for a rough draft and editing.
I was surprised at the amount of misspelling that was allowed in Lulu's 1st grade class. But some assignments were more about process and creativity than spelling and grammar, so I just let it go and corrected where it seemed appropriate.
But I have to add that I love how kids write out what they hear. It often makes more sense, phonetically speaking.
IMO, spelling and grammar are always important. Ry's first grade class required that they write sentences every week. Parents were told not to make them correct misspellings, but to cross them out and write the correct spelling above it when they were done. Nope. They will not learn unless they are the ones making corrections. Ry has a children's dictionary and I would tell him "There is a misspelling in this sentence. Use your dictionary to figure it out and correct it."

I have high expectations for my kids and am angry that the school district is satisfied with them not failing.
ScarletandOlive

Iselin, NJ

#98436 May 2, 2014
RACE wrote:
ok, I am really blown away by this.
I just checked out dealdash, its an online auction site. Heres how it works. You buy bid packets, each bid costs sixty cents. Then you bid on a product. Each product starts at zero, and each bid raises the price of the product by a penny.
With me so far?
So there is a $200 gift card being auctioned right now the price is $160
So to get $160 in pennies, how many pennies to you need?
Well, you need 16,000 is how many you need.
That means that there have been 16,000 bids for that gift card and each bid cost 60 cents
So that $200 gift card generated $9,600 in revenue.
Amazing! I gotta start an auction site.
Holy cow! That is ingenious!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#98437 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
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IMO, spelling and grammar are always important. Ry's first grade class required that they write sentences every week. Parents were told not to make them correct misspellings, but to cross them out and write the correct spelling above it when they were done. Nope. They will not learn unless they are the ones making corrections. Ry has a children's dictionary and I would tell him "There is a misspelling in this sentence. Use your dictionary to figure it out and correct it."
I have high expectations for my kids and am angry that the school district is satisfied with them not failing.
Whenever there was a particularly difficult word for my son to spell, I would put it to a song or rythm and then he could remember it. They once had the task (I think in second grade) to learn to spell everyone's last name. It was an excellent exercise in "exceptions to the rule".

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#98439 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO, spelling and grammar are always important. Ry's first grade class required that they write sentences every week. Parents were told not to make them correct misspellings, but to cross them out and write the correct spelling above it when they were done. Nope. They will not learn unless they are the ones making corrections. Ry has a children's dictionary and I would tell him "There is a misspelling in this sentence. Use your dictionary to figure it out and correct it."
I have high expectations for my kids and am angry that the school district is satisfied with them not failing.
This is not unique to your district. That has been the directive for my kid as well. The objective was for the kids to write however it sounds to them and not worry about spelling.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#98440 May 2, 2014
j_m_w wrote:
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I agree. "Primal and deliberate" my ass. It's a kid who make a boatload of mistakes and no one told him (how) to correct them.
Close, but not quite.

It's a kid who make a boatload of mistakes and no one told him they were mistakes

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#98441 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO, spelling and grammar are always important. Ry's first grade class required that they write sentences every week. Parents were told not to make them correct misspellings, but to cross them out and write the correct spelling above it when they were done. Nope. They will not learn unless they are the ones making corrections. Ry has a children's dictionary and I would tell him "There is a misspelling in this sentence. Use your dictionary to figure it out and correct it."
I have high expectations for my kids and am angry that the school district is satisfied with them not failing.
WORD.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#98442 May 2, 2014
I learned how to spell my (maiden) last name by listening to my dad make dinner reservations on the phone, haha.

I think it's abhorrent that schools "don't worry about spelling."

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#98443 May 2, 2014
j_m_w wrote:
I learned how to spell my (maiden) last name by listening to my dad make dinner reservations on the phone, haha.
I think it's abhorrent that schools "don't worry about spelling."
Is it that they don't worry about spelling, or that spelling is the next step along the way? I'm not worried that my kid has not learned long division, because I know its coming. That's my take on the spelling thing.(And when I'm not dropping cell phone keyboard typos left and right on Topix, I'm a great speller, so I do agree spelling is important.)

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#98444 May 2, 2014
ScarletandOlive wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO, spelling and grammar are always important. Ry's first grade class required that they write sentences every week. Parents were told not to make them correct misspellings, but to cross them out and write the correct spelling above it when they were done. Nope. They will not learn unless they are the ones making corrections. Ry has a children's dictionary and I would tell him "There is a misspelling in this sentence. Use your dictionary to figure it out and correct it."
I have high expectations for my kids and am angry that the school district is satisfied with them not failing.
I love words.
I was accused, with some justification, of reading the dictionary in grade school.
I have yet to figure out how to look up a word in a hard copy dictionary f you don't know how it is spelled.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#98446 May 2, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Is it that they don't worry about spelling, or that spelling is the next step along the way? I'm not worried that my kid has not learned long division, because I know its coming. That's my take on the spelling thing.(And when I'm not dropping cell phone keyboard typos left and right on Topix, I'm a great speller, so I do agree spelling is important.)
But it makes sense that one would learn basic addition and subtraction before long division. What comes before spelling besides simply learning how to print letters? Why let kids get used to spelling everything phonetically just to break them of their bad habits to teach them correctly later, when you can just teach them correctly in the first place?

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#98447 May 2, 2014
squishymama wrote:
<quoted text>

But I have to add that I love how kids write out what they hear. It often makes more sense, phonetically speaking.
Try Dragonspeak or even the Windows Speech Recognition to Text function. You will be amazed at what your speech looks like when only the phonetics are heard.

“Checks and Balances”

Since: Apr 13

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#98448 May 2, 2014
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>I love words.
I was accused, with some justification, of reading the dictionary in grade school.
I have yet to figure out how to look up a word in a hard copy dictionary f you don't know how it is spelled.
You look up what you think is the correct spelling. Unless you are trying to look up a PH word in the F section, chances are pretty good that you will find it on the page where you think it should be.

“Checks and Balances”

Since: Apr 13

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#98449 May 2, 2014
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>I love words.
I was accused, with some justification, of reading the dictionary in grade school.
I have yet to figure out how to look up a word in a hard copy dictionary f you don't know how it is spelled.
When I went to check on Ry the other night, he had fallen asleep reading the dictionary :) E is going to get his own when he enters 1st grade so that they don't have to fight over it.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#98450 May 2, 2014
j_m_w wrote:
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But it makes sense that one would learn basic addition and subtraction before long division. What comes before spelling besides simply learning how to print letters? Why let kids get used to spelling everything phonetically just to break them of their bad habits to teach them correctly later, when you can just teach them correctly in the first place?
Hey I never claimed to have a teaching degree. But here's what I googled.

http://www.greatschools.org/students/academic...

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