“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93753 Nov 18, 2013
dog, race...

So exactly what constitutes a desecration of the flag and lady liberty in your book? Any depiction that supports a position you don't share? OR ANY artistic deviation?

Is famed artist Peter Max offensive?

https://www.google.com/search...

Peter Max has painted for six U.S. Presidents and his art is on display in Presidential Libraries and in U.S. Embassies. Max has painted our Lady Liberty annually since America's Bicentennial and in 2000 a collage of his Liberties adorned over 145 million Verizon phone books.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93754 Nov 18, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
dog, race...
So exactly what constitutes a desecration of the flag and lady liberty in your book? Any depiction that supports a position you don't share? OR ANY artistic deviation?
Is famed artist Peter Max offensive?
Okay, Scarlet actually summed it up perfectly. When you use a depiction of our flag or national symbols in such a way to create "shock value," you are taking away from your issue and instead pzzing people off.

That is counter-productive to the very thing you are trying to get support for.

Instead, I, and half the country that agrees with me, are more UNlikely to support your cause BECAUSE of the way you're presenting your case. When you turn the United States flag into a rainbow, when you turn our symbols for freedom and justice into lesbian porn, I, and many others like me, find your actions, and therefor your cause, deplorable.

Maybe more than 30% of states would support gays, if you people didn't act that way?

Think about it.

You want respect? Show America some respect.

Instead you're shoving it in our faces how much you hate America because a majority of Americans don't share YOUR views. Turn it around. Show respect, and you might get some.

Since: Feb 08

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#93755 Nov 18, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, Scarlet actually summed it up perfectly. When you use a depiction of our flag or national symbols in such a way to create "shock value," you are taking away from your issue and instead pzzing people off.
That is counter-productive to the very thing you are trying to get support for.
Instead, I, and half the country that agrees with me, are more UNlikely to support your cause BECAUSE of the way you're presenting your case. When you turn the United States flag into a rainbow, when you turn our symbols for freedom and justice into lesbian porn, I, and many others like me, find your actions, and therefor your cause, deplorable.
Maybe more than 30% of states would support gays, if you people didn't act that way?
Think about it.
You want respect? Show America some respect.
Instead you're shoving it in our faces how much you hate America because a majority of Americans don't share YOUR views. Turn it around. Show respect, and you might get some.
Ahhh. Poor puppy. Whine some more, I'm still able to control the laughter.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#93756 Nov 18, 2013
I'm confused. I don't see anything gay-related in Toj's flag avatar. Is that a separate issue or did it get changed?
What I see is an American flag-esque heralding free speech, something our nation used to be founded on.

I am very patriotic and love my country, but I'm not psycho offended by every little thing. Throwing a real flag on the ground and steppin on it (looking at you, Lil Wayne) or burning it, sure, but to make use of one to promote the very values that were once accepted in this nation...please.

We are getting offended by everything lately. Our nation is no longer recognizable. We should be happy the 3 colors are right! We should put the same energy into protecting the Constitution that is being raped.

“Checks and Balances”

Since: Apr 13

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#93758 Nov 18, 2013
cheluzal wrote:
I'm confused. I don't see anything gay-related in Toj's flag avatar. Is that a separate issue or did it get changed?
What I see is an American flag-esque heralding free speech, something our nation used to be founded on.

I am very patriotic and love my country, but I'm not psycho offended by every little thing. Throwing a real flag on the ground and steppin on it (looking at you, Lil Wayne) or burning it, sure, but to make use of one to promote the very values that were once accepted in this nation...please.

We are getting offended by everything lately. Our nation is no longer recognizable. We should be happy the 3 colors are right! We should put the same energy into protecting the Constitution that is being raped.
She previously had an avatar of the American flag with rainbow colored stripes, instead of just red and white. That is what started this discussion.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93759 Nov 18, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
Who is raping the Constitution and how?
Your president. Taking away the following:

Amendment #1: Religious freedom

Amendment #2: Gun rights

Amendment #4: Unreasonable search and seizures (NSA, anyone?)

Amendment #5: Right against self incrimination

Oh, it goes on. Do I really need to list them all? You won't believe me anyway. You're just gonna keep your head in the sand and insist that everything is fine because your leaders told you so. Isn't that right? Good little liberal.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93760 Nov 18, 2013
cheluzal wrote:
I'm confused. I don't see anything gay-related in Toj's flag avatar. Is that a separate issue or did it get changed?
She changed it. So I'll give her a little credit for that (unlike that despicable Moon character) but initially she had a desecration of the American flag by having rainbow colors in place of the Red and White. That's what started the whole thing. I'll admit it doesn't make as much sense seeing the avatar as it currently is.

But you know what DOES make sense? How beautiful you are.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93761 Nov 18, 2013
ScarletandOlive wrote:
She previously had an avatar of the American flag with rainbow colored stripes, instead of just red and white. That is what started this discussion.
Alrighty then, I could have saved some typing if this had shown up at first
:)

But you didn't remark on Chel's beauty!

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#93762 Nov 18, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
She changed it. So I'll give her a little credit for that (unlike that despicable Moon character) but initially she had a desecration of the American flag by having rainbow colors in place of the Red and White. That's what started the whole thing. I'll admit it doesn't make as much sense seeing the avatar as it currently is.
But you know what DOES make sense? How beautiful you are.
I thought I'd just wait it out to find out what the posts would be to the Free Speech flag. I thought my point might be made. I really didn't know if it would. I really didn't think it would be made this quick.

Chel, I had the rainbow flag with the stars in honor of Hawaii passing the same sex marriage bill. Above the flag I had "Equality" and I had it as my avatar when Hawaii passed the same sex marriage bill.(picture of it: http://www.rainbowdepot.com/Rainbow-Stars-Fla... )

I can't think of anything more American than the pursuit of equality for all people who live in these United States and also Free Speech -- which ties into the LGBT flying their flags.

Also, I believe Race is incorrect about having an American Flag on the flag post on top. That's only the case if you have one flag post and you are flying the American Flag and another flag. Otherwise, all those people with different kinds of flags flying in front of their house are descretating the American flag by not having the American flag on top of the flag pole and then their other flag. When flying the American flag it needs to be the prominent one. I again say I did not have the American flag on my Avatar -- go look up the Liberia flag, Race.(Picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Liberia ) Perhaps I was descretating that one or any number of flags that have red and white stripes with stars.

Further, I believe it to be known it was NOT meant to be negative so intent was just not there. I had the feeling those posts were connected more with the content than the actual flag.

I am a firm believer in the freedoms of which our veterans and future soldiers fight for. I am a believer in the American people b/c that includes the soldier and everyone here who do their part. What those colors of the LGBT mean are everything very American.

red: stands for courage;
orange: offers the vision of possibilities;
yellow: represents the challenge that GREEN has kindled;
green: indicates a challenge to co-operators to strive for growth of membership and of understanding of the aims and values of co-operation;
sky blue: suggests far horizons, the need to provide education and help less fortunate people and strive toward global unity.
dark blue: suggests pessimism: a reminder that less fortunate people have needs that may be met through the benefits of cooperation.
violet: is the colour of warmth, beauty, and friendship.

Just sayin'.:)

But go ahead. Perhaps you believe that was more offensive than you or Race saying many vile things to me and others in your posts and anyone that disagrees with you.

Here, Edog. A flag for you. http://www.proworldinc.com/a3314f-republican-...

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#93764 Nov 18, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
Here, Edog. A flag for you. http://www.proworldinc.com/a3314f-republican -...
THOSE UN-AMERICAN BATSARDS!!!!!!!
I have no idea who put the nasty icons on your post but the link isn't working for me. Given the nasty icons, I am really wonder what it was.

Since: Jan 10

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#93765 Nov 18, 2013
ScarletandOlive wrote:
Heart wrenching and thought provoking photographs. Warning - some of these are really hard to look at.
http://indulgd.com/26-of-the-most-thought-pro...
WOW.

Still in Florida, go home late tomorrow. Probably will have to go to the radiologyg clinic on Wednesday to get my lung drained again. Just 9 days after the last draining.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93767 Nov 18, 2013
Toj wrote:
At least they got the colors right...
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#93768 Nov 18, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
But go ahead. Perhaps you believe that was more offensive than you or Race saying many vile things to me and others in your posts and anyone that disagrees with you.
This is grossly unnecessary.
My post was in some support of you and I have articulated nothing about it to warrant such a defensive response bringing up something days ago that I have already forgotten about.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#93769 Nov 18, 2013
cheluzal wrote:
<quoted text>
This is grossly unnecessary.
My post was in some support of you and I have articulated nothing about it to warrant such a defensive response bringing up something days ago that I have already forgotten about.
Oh, no, no, no! So sorry. That was NOT directed at you. It was directed at Edog and I should have put it in a separate post. I think I got into the subject too much and forgot who I was replying to.

Honestly, that was NOT directed at you. You have not said anything to warrant that to be directed at you at all. I agree.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93770 Nov 18, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
At least they got the colors right...
but isn't this an offensive desecration of the flag? You know, hating america and shoving it in the other half's face ad all that?

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#93771 Nov 18, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>but isn't this an offensive desecration of the flag? You know, hating america and shoving it in the other half's face ad all that?
Are you kidding? He probably made it his screen saver.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93772 Nov 19, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
but isn't this an offensive desecration of the flag? You know, hating america and shoving it in the other half's face ad all that?
Once again it's all or nothing with you. It's either black or it's white. I will not explain to you what constitutes flag desecration, because I shouldn't have to. I think you are intentionally acting dense.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93773 Nov 19, 2013
Timmy

Hollywood, FL

#93774 Nov 19, 2013
You are the one intentionally acting dense. You and Race make a great couple - you think alike on so many things. Are you sure you two are not secretly gay married to each other?
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again it's all or nothing with you. It's either black or it's white. I will not explain to you what constitutes flag desecration, because I shouldn't have to. I think you are intentionally acting dense.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#93775 Nov 19, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again it's all or nothing with you. It's either black or it's white. I will not explain to you what constitutes flag desecration, because I shouldn't have to. I think you are intentionally acting dense.
You don't need to need to explain anything. Its quite clear. Id it offends the dog, its desecration. If it offends the dog's adversaries, fluckem. Think as the dog does, anf you love america. Think opposite, and you hate america.

You choose not to explain, becaise it wil only shine a brighter light on your hypocrisy.

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