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Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#93232 Nov 7, 2013

Since: Oct 12

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#93233 Nov 7, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Anyone following the Richie Incognito saga?
Richie has a history of bad behavior and being a bully....but, from what i see the Dolphin's coaches and staff really handled their team chemistry horribly....Tannehill is screwed and has already been sacked a league leading 35 times....Run, Ryan Runnnn!!!

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#93234 Nov 7, 2013
I have not seen what the racist texts were, but for a professional football player to walk off on his team and enter therapy for emotional distress is just unbelievable. Where is his mommy to advocate for him?
Mister Tonka wrote:
Anyone following the Richie Incognito saga?

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93235 Nov 7, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Richie has a history of bad behavior and being a bully....but, from what i see the Dolphin's coaches and staff really handled their team chemistry horribly....Tannehill is screwed and has already been sacked a league leading 35 times....Run, Ryan Runnnn!!!
Here's an article from former team mate.

A look inside the locker room.
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie-incognit...

Since: Oct 12

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#93236 Nov 7, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's an article from former team mate.
A look inside the locker room.
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie-incognit...
At the very beginning, Murtha prefaces it by saying he is Incognito's friend.....I've heard that Martin was forced to pay for many other things, including a $15,000 trip, he was'nt even on......Local news, down here has a story that Incognito even took a teamates credit card and charged jetski's for himself.....lotta sh*t getting thrown around on this....most fascinating is watching the NFL Channel's coverage/non-coverage of this event...lol...Corporate Greed alway's comes first, eh?.....

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#93237 Nov 7, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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I have a problem with that because of the deification of major league sports. I also have a problem with saying that a particular closed group of people can operate under different rules of conduct. We wind up with guys who don't know the boundaries or think the rules don't pertain to them like Michael Vick or the MLB/bike racing guys who thought they could getaway with performance enhancing drugs or the guys who get sexually aggressive because they think they are entitled. Or the New Orleans bounty situation which as I understand it was offered by t management but accepted and carried out by the players.
I disagree with a win at all costs mindset, or that a guy needs to be toughed up. The large amounts of money involved don't justify the actions--IMNSHO.
Word.

Toj

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#93238 Nov 7, 2013
RACE wrote:
I have not seen what the racist texts were, but for a professional football player to walk off on his team and enter therapy for emotional distress is just unbelievable. Where is his mommy to advocate for him?
<quoted text>
Seriously? This is the kind of opinion about seeking psychological help that makes people not go for help. Amazing. People then wonder why schools, theatres and shopping malls get shot up.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93239 Nov 7, 2013
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football...

Dolphins GM reportedly suggested Martin punch Incognito if he had a problem

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93240 Nov 7, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously? This is the kind of opinion about seeking psychological help that makes people not go for help. Amazing. People then wonder why schools, theatres and shopping malls get shot up.
professional sports are not for the thin skinned.

“No. 1 $tunna”

Since: Aug 08

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#93241 Nov 7, 2013
redheadwglasses wrote:
That's a fair assessment Tonka, and I can get behind that.
Busy day today. Out the door at 10 and headed to a friend's house in Mpls, spent the day with three women I've known for over 25 years. We played euchre, got thai food for take-out to appease R and T, who can't get Thai in their town in Iowa. It was wonderful.
I got home arond 4:45 and I'm freakin exhausted. Forced myself with caffeine to stay up this late so I can get back on a normal sleep schedule.
At first, I just slept when i was tired and kept weird hours, but that conflicted when I tried to make and keep plans with people who are on a normal work/sleep schedule.
I am almost done with season 2 of Breaking Bad (just started watching on Saturday) and I am loving it. Sometimes I have to leave the room and just listen b/c it's too creepy (like when they are shooting heroin, that creeps me out, which then was topped by Walt watching his partner's girlfriend choking to death in her sleep on her own vomit (heroin), and letting her die).
The show is worth the hype. The acting, directing, and writing are out of this world. The side characters are deep, both in their flaws and their humanity. Just when you think someone (like BIL) is a doosh, he does the stand-up thing like you'd expect from a good brother-in-law.
GOod stuff. exhaustd. Bed soon.
My bro kept telling me to watch it. I said, I don't want to watch a show about meth. Eventually, I watched the fist episode on netflix. I then proceeded to immediately watch the next 8 or so episodes. Both my wife and I were hooked after episode 1.

Best show evah! Hands down!

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#93242 Nov 7, 2013
Were talking about a football player, not the school drama queen.
He has spent years in a culture that should have toughened him up, and not made him such a mamby-pamby over being called names.
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously? This is the kind of opinion about seeking psychological help that makes people not go for help. Amazing. People then wonder why schools, theatres and shopping malls get shot up.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#93243 Nov 7, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>That was my initial reaction, but ever time I read a new article, the story twists a bit. I've seen quotes from current and former team mates, black and white, all supporting him. Pouncey, Ricky Williams, and more saying they don't consider him racist and feel him dropping the N-word doesn't mean jack. One article said some of the black team mates considered him an "honorary black guy"(not sure what the actual quote was).
The latest from um-named sources: COACHES gave him the order for the proverbial "code red". They wanted Incognito to toughen him up and he was just following orders.
Basically, I'm seeing very few players who support Martin. Most of the outrage is from us outside the NFL locker rooms.
Yep. As of today, I'm starting to hear that this might be a lot more complicated than it sounds.

“No. 1 $tunna”

Since: Aug 08

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#93244 Nov 7, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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Daley's legacy is that he made sure all the different groups got theirs in relatively fair measures. His financial handling was awful and as we learn more and more, not at all transparent Millenium Park which is indeed a gem was 4 years lat and 1
$17 million over budget and now we ar learning that there are some bonds or other obligations for the park which he agreed to but wasn't publicized.
The park is grand. The Bean has become the hallmark of the city along with the Picasso. I am quite sure he couldn't have gotten it passed if the true likely cost were known.
The parking meters.
Meigs Field being bulldozed.
Someone remind me of other good stuff he achieved in his 20+ years.
The pensions
John Burge, police torturer who was on the police force when Daley was States Attorney and while he was mayor.
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>
Daley's legacy is that he made sure all the different groups got theirs in relatively fair measures. His financial handling was awful and as we learn more and more, not at all transparent Millenium Park which is indeed a gem was 4 years lat and 1
$17 million over budget and now we ar learning that there are some bonds or other obligations for the park which he agreed to but wasn't publicized.
The park is grand. The Bean has become the hallmark of the city along with the Picasso. I am quite sure he couldn't have gotten it passed if the true likely cost were known.
The parking meters.
Meigs Field being bulldozed.
Someone remind me of other good stuff he achieved in his 20+ years.
The pensions
John Burge, police torturer who was on the police force when Daley was States Attorney and while he was mayor.
The whole city is corrupt. Itís the machine.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93245 Nov 7, 2013
RACE wrote:
Were talking about a football player, not the school drama queen.
He has spent years in a culture that should have toughened him up, and not made him such a mamby-pamby over being called names.
<quoted text>
Word.

Since: Jan 10

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#93246 Nov 7, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>
My bro kept telling me to watch it. I said, I don't want to watch a show about meth. Eventually, I watched the fist episode on netflix. I then proceeded to immediately watch the next 8 or so episodes. Both my wife and I were hooked after episode 1.
Best show evah! Hands down!
I know, right? That opening scene of Walt in his tightie whities and a gas mask, driving that RV careening downt he desert dirt road, with two bodies int he back sloshing around with meth chemicals... I was hooked.

Since: Jan 10

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#93247 Nov 7, 2013
I agree with the guys on the football thing. I would think it would be similar to the military: Toughen the hell up already.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#93248 Nov 7, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I agree with the guys on the football thing. I would think it would be similar to the military: Toughen the hell up already.
Its definitely more military than dowtown office. Military has their own court system for crimes committed within ranks. Different rules. Go off base and you gotta follow same rules as everyone else, but whatever can be handled in house is.

Next thing you know, players will have to go thru sensitivity traning to not hurt each other's feelings

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#93249 Nov 7, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I agree with the guys on the football thing. I would think it would be similar to the military: Toughen the hell up already.
I get that but they still send military guys in for PTSD and plenty do and can be helped. Years ago it would have been frowned upon for a military man to get help like that.

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#93250 Nov 7, 2013
I don't think it should be "anything goes" in sports or the military, but I do think the bar is set at a different level than for us "civilians."

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#93251 Nov 7, 2013
I'll admit it. I have a problem with the thought process in telling anyone "just to toughen up" when they have mental health issues. If they broke their leg you'd tell them to go to a doctor and have it fixed. While the numbers below need to be updated, today the numbers are probably pretty close as they were then.

http://www.apa.org/about/gr/issues/military/c...

Stigma associated with mental illness in military communities. The Army recognizes that stigma is a major barrier for veterans in need of mental health care (Mental Health Advisory Team IV, 2007). According to SAMHSA, service members frequently cite fear of personal embarrassment, disappointing comrades, losing the opportunity for career advancement, and dishonorable discharge as motivations to hide symptoms of mental illness from family, friends and colleagues (2007).

Veterans seek help outside the system.VA data indicates that 22 percent of veterans receive their mental health care outside the VA system.(2005) The percentage varies from state to state, with the rural states having the greatest percentage of veterans who get care outside the system (McClatchy Newspapers, Feb. 9, 2007).

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