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#92129 Oct 2, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have a problem with this (it's the platform):
Support affirmative action to redress discrimination
Yes, redress discrimination by punishing folks who donít even engage in it, but happen to share the same skin color as some who do. That right there is whack job mainstream liberal thinking. Folks should be treated as individuals and judged on the basis of their individual character, talents, and accomplishments. You will never convince me that it is okay to discriminate, never.

Also the 77 cents on the dollar thing has been rebuked many times and is nothing more than left wing propaganda, which most liberals because they just want to hear views that reinforce their beliefs swallow hook, line, sinker. The actual wage gap is a few pennies and it's unexplained, which mean it may not even be caused by overt discrimination ... I can think of many reasons other than discrimination that could cause this, in fact:

"The 23-cent gap is simply the average difference between the earnings of men and women employed "full time." What is important is the "adjusted" wage gap-the figure that controls for all the relevant variables. That is what the new AAUW study explores.

The AAUW researchers looked at male and female college graduates one year after graduation. After controlling for several relevant factors (though some were left out, as we shall see), they found that the wage gap narrowed to only 6.6 cents. How much of that is attributable to discrimination? As AAUW spokesperson Lisa Maatz candidly said in an NPR interview, "We are still trying to figure that out."

One of the best studies on the wage gap was released in 2009 by the U.S. Department of Labor. It examined more than 50 peer-reviewed papers and concluded that the 23-cent wage gap "may be almost entirely the result of individual choices being made by both male and female workers." In the past, women's groups have ignored or explained away such findings.

"In fact," says the National Women's Law Center, "authoritative studies show that even when all relevant career and family attributes are taken into account, there is still a significant, unexplained gap in men's and women's earnings." Not quite. What the 2009 LABOR DEPARTMENT study showed was that when the proper controls are in place, the unexplained (adjusted) wage gap is somewhere between 4.8 and 7 cents."

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Feminists such as those the National Women's Law Center have a vested interest in making a problem that barely exists seem like a huge problem. If the truth were known, there would be no reason for them to exist. Asking their opinion about women's issues, is like asking a DEA agent if we should allocate more money to fight the war on drugs.
Mimi

United States

#92130 Oct 2, 2013
RACE wrote:
Will all you just STFU already? 3 days is more than enough time to beat this poor horse.
Also, its the law. Either accept it or work to change it. But....I agree. Time to stfu.

Since: Aug 08

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#92131 Oct 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>And she is second hottest on that show, Jon Huntsman's daughter is the bomb.....
Yeah, she's hawt:

http://www.google.com/imgres...

I'd almost consider becoming a brain dead liberal for her.:p

Since: Aug 08

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#92132 Oct 2, 2013
RACE wrote:
Will all you just STFU already? 3 days is more than enough time to beat this poor horse.
We've moved on to talking about hot liberals now. Happy?

Too bad dumb women are such a turn off to me.:p

Toj

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#92133 Oct 2, 2013
Mimi wrote:
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Also, its the law. Either accept it or work to change it. But....I agree. Time to stfu.
I'm with ya.

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#92135 Oct 2, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>So, the babes just aren't asking for enough money? Da chicks are making "bad choices"?
That sounds like: "Duhhhh...people forced banks to sell them houses they couldn't afford and then, duuuhhhh...we had a recession!"
You people are all about "individual responsibility" but it seems that means pointing fingers at individuals while pretending corporations have no say in the matters. Like, they wanna pay more! Da biotches are too dumb to ask!"
No, dude, the labor department is wrong!!! They are controlled by tea party members, with an agenda!

Individual choices would be like a woman getting pregnant and staying out of the workforce to raise children while the children are young, like my wife has done. She's not going to be making the same as a man in her same field who didn't leave the workforce for 9 years like she did, nor would she think it unfair that she doesn't.

Now feminists would say, we need to do more to help women raise children and work, but that's not what my wife wanted. She didn't want to work. She's just wanted to be a SAHM. That alone was enough on her plate.

Another individual choices would be the fact that in many families (although this is changing) men tend to be the primary income earners. Because of this, especially where the man makes a lot more $ their souse, the family is more likely to relocate if a better job opportunity that offers more money appears for the man compared to the woman.

Think of it like this ... let's say I make $50 an hour, but my wife makes $15 an hour ... let's say my wife can get a job making $25 an hour, but we would have to move a few hours away ... she's probably not going to take that job, because I'd need to find a new one and we probably couldn't just live on her $25 an hour, until I found one.

Let's say the tables are turned and I can get a job a few hours away making $60 an hour, but my wife would need to find a new job ... we are more likely to move in the case of me receiving a higher wage, because we can survive on my $60 an hour (which is almost the combined $65 we were making before the move) until my wife finds a comparable job.

The fact that men and families will more often relocate to chase dollars, alone skew the statistics.

There are many other nondiscriminatory reasons that could explain it as well.

Since: Aug 08

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#92136 Oct 2, 2013
And really, Ferrerman, how do you rectify those situations.

How do you make women more likely to uproot their family and move across the country to take jobs? How do you make women not take a leave from work for raising children?

Also if it is things of this nature, what do you do to employers to prevent the income gap that arises from these types of decisions. Should you even do anything? Should an employer pay a woman who has been out of the workforce for 9 years the same as a man who hasn't? In my hypo up above, should the employer who is only paying the wife $15 an hour be forced to pay her $25 because if she were willing to relocate a few hours away she could make that much working for someone else? I don't think so.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#92137 Oct 2, 2013
Can any of the computer gurus tell me if it's going to make much of a difference if I buy a laptop with 1. ghz vs. 2.20 ghz? We just use it fo surfing the net, my kid plays some (not high graphic) games and stuff. Not a whole lot. I sometimes (though rarely) use if for movies and (alsorarely) to play a DVD.

I had 2 laptops, but one kicked the bucket a week or 2 ago. I need a second computer and don't really want a PC.

Thanks!

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#92138 Oct 2, 2013
* I meant I sometimes use it for work

Toj

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#92139 Oct 2, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Now feminists would say, we need to do more to help women raise children and work, but that's not what my wife wanted. She didn't want to work. She's just wanted to be a SAHM. That alone was enough on her plate.
This is a blatant mischaracterization of a feminist.
I feminist would say a woman should have a CHOICE as to whether to wants to work or be a SAHM.
People who say that woman should work only are not feminists. You making up crap again?

Toj

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#92140 Oct 2, 2013
Butchered that, didn't I? Hee, hee. That's what fly-by posting gets you.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#92141 Oct 2, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
If unemployment is all you know about ECONOMICS??? Just admit it? You have yet to be RIGHT, about anything.....
You have yet to prove me WRONG about anything........

Back up your claim that Republicans are against women and minorities. You can't.

Back up your claim that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown. You can't.

Sucks to always be wrong, doesn't it?

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#92143 Oct 2, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
Can any of the computer gurus tell me if it's going to make much of a difference if I buy a laptop with 1. ghz vs. 2.20 ghz? We just use it fo surfing the net, my kid plays some (not high graphic) games and stuff. Not a whole lot. I sometimes (though rarely) use if for movies and (alsorarely) to play a DVD.
I had 2 laptops, but one kicked the bucket a week or 2 ago. I need a second computer and don't really want a PC.
Thanks!
I wouldn't say I'm a guru, but I know a thing or two. Is there a number after the 1. on the first processor?

How many cores? What are the other specs, especially the RAM? What operating system are you running? What is the price difference?

You don't need a top of the line set up for your use, but if the first one is 1ghz and there is nothing after the 1., that is kind of the absolute bare bones minimum. Without knowing more, I'd spring for the faster one, but some additional info would be helpful.
Timmy

United States

#92144 Oct 2, 2013
Why don't you pull your head out of you butt and take a look around. Maybe then you won't be wrong all of the time.
edogxxx wrote:
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You have yet to prove me WRONG about anything........
Back up your claim that Republicans are against women and minorities. You can't.
Back up your claim that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown. You can't.
Sucks to always be wrong, doesn't it?

Since: Oct 12

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#92145 Oct 2, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
You have yet to prove me WRONG about anything........
Back up your claim that Republicans are against women and minorities. You can't.
Back up your claim that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown. You can't.
Sucks to always be wrong, doesn't it?
Everyone, with minimal braincells, know's that the current crop of republicans aren't as women/minority friendly as the democrats.....How did Mitt Romeny do with women/minoritys?,there is your proof, Buckaroo.....I can't prove it, but am pretty certain that tomorrow's sky will be blue.....

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#92146 Oct 2, 2013
Toj wrote:
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This is a blatant mischaracterization of a feminist.
I feminist would say a woman should have a CHOICE as to whether to wants to work or be a SAHM.
People who say that woman should work only are not feminists. You making up crap again?
Where did I say that feminists say women should work only? Who is making crap up again? Clearly it is you.

Since: Oct 12

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#92148 Oct 2, 2013
CONSUMERS BOOST SPENDING IN AUGUST...(AP) 9-28-13....U.S. consumers increased their spending slightly last monthas their income grew at the fastest pace in six months. The figures point to only modest economic growth in the July to September quarter....Consumer's spending on goods and services rose 0.3 percent in August, the Commerce Department said Friday. That's up from 0.2 percent gain in July, which was slightly more than the 0.1 percent reported last month....Income rose 0.4 percent in August, the best gain since February and up from a 0.2 percent July Increase......ECONOMIC DATA LIKE THIS, HAS BEEN READILY AVAILABLE......For anyone that dispute's how incredibly, this administration has accomplished a near miracle and againest a totally hostile tea party group of House republicans, and especially considering the global ditch, where GW left it.....

Toj

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#92149 Oct 2, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Where did I say that feminists say women should work only? Who is making crap up again? Clearly it is you.
Taken from YOUR post:

"Now feminists would say, we need to do more to help women raise children and work, but that's not what my wife wanted. She didn't want to work. She's just wanted to be a SAHM. That alone was enough on her plate."

Pray tell what were you trying to say in the above other than what I took from it. I'd appreciate a clarification if I may.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#92150 Oct 2, 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/showbiz/michael...

Michael Jackson death trial. AEG not guilty.

I really want to know whether the jury found anything about Jackson contributing to his own death.

It is too bad he is dead, but he was a (very talented) druggie from the quintessentially dysfunctional family.

This lawsuit never should have been brought.On of the more dramatic examples of trying to blame someone else for their own ( her MJ's) actions

It pushed his daughter to the brink of suicide. Didn't his mother have any idea of the kind of person he was and what he did? Apparently not.

Too bad he is dead.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Brooklyn, NY

#92151 Oct 2, 2013
Timmy wrote:
Why don't you pull your head out of you butt and take a look around. Maybe then you won't be wrong all of the time.
<quoted text>
I'm wrong all of the time, yet you can't prove once.

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