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Sep 17, 2013
 
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Not for nothing but that girl in Pakistan got half her head blown off just for going to school, and she is thriving.
If she can do it, how hard can it be for the kids in chicago who have cops escorting them to school every day? I aint saying its easy for them, but there are millions of kids who have it worse and manage to succeed.
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That's one girl. How many in Pakistan gave up? Plenty in Chicago have thrived as well. That does not mean everyone will under those circumstances. Cops are not escorting all the kids. The hire people at $10 an hour and that is not all kids in all schools. There is a program called "Safe Passage".(Link: http://www.cps.edu/Pages/safepassage.aspx )

Some people get shot and don't die. Doesn't mean they all live. Some people have the best education, awesome parents and commit henious crimes.

I'm not a fan of the logic b/c one did it, everyone should have no problem doing it.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
The other part of it is, if everyone around you -- your neighbors, your friends, your siblings, your cousins, your aunts and uncles, live a certain way, it's good enough for you, too. Who's going to shame you for not owning a house if no one else you know owns a house?

And a bigger part: People will see someone's different choices as a judgment on them, so then they will tear down that person for trying to go back to school, or get a better job. "You think you're better than us? You think this apartment isn't good enough for you but it's good enough for the rest of us?" We saw that in the United Way program I belonged to, where they teamed several professionals with a low-income single parent in public housing to provide moral support that they weren't getting from their own friends and family.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
Pakistan (since Race mentioned a Pakistan student):

(first the link:http://beta.dawn.com/news /1021255/out-of-school-childre n-pakistan-ranks-second-in-the -world)

"In its annual report titled ĎThe state of Pakistanís children 2012í, the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child (Sparc) said about one fourth of the 19.75 million children in Pakistan aged five to nine were out of school and factoring in adolescents increased the number to 25 million. Of them, seven million children (aged three to five) had yet to receive primary schooling.

"Pakistan has the lowest youth literacy rate with 70.7pc. Only 61pc of girls are literate as compared to 79pc boys in the age group of 15-24 years."

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#91593
Sep 17, 2013
 
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Yes, millions of kids are. I was speaking globally. And when you consider what some other kids have to do to get to a school, and what that school actually is, you have to wonder why the kids in the US are doing so poorly.
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.

http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...

These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
Syria school children (from AlJazeera)

The school year has begun in Syria, but attending class is out of the question for thousands of children.

Many live in poverty in a makeshift camp called Atma, on the border with Turkey. Few aid agencies are willing to risk going there.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
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<quoted text>This guy was working to go into the inner cities and poor communities to educate them as to their *choices* with their money. And he said it wasn't just low income people making these kinds of choices -- middle class blacks were guilty of it, too.
I see it down here a lot. Iíve noticed A LOT of black folks drive nice cars, much nicer than mine and much nicer than most folks I know (unless they have a lot of money).

Heck, my boss even drives a mazda. My neighborís dad owns a company and he runs the branch down here for him. He and his wife were telling me at Thanksgiving and laughing about how the folks there make barely more than minimum wage, but a lot of them drive a nicer car than his.
Thatís not how I choose to spend my money and a lot of folks I know choose to spend their money.

An amount equal to about 30-35% of what I take home, after taxes, what I put into retirement, and what I contribute for some of my benefits, is put into retirement annually. Iím probably on the more extreme side of saving for retirement (I donít want to work past my late 50s, tho or much past that).

Iíd rather drive an average car, now, live it up during retirement (or leave my wife a bunch of $ if I donít make it that long), have a nice house now, have a few toys, and have money to do things with my family, than drive a flashy car.

I view a very expensive car as a poor spending choice, and I donít care how nice of a car it is ... I just donít get that much enjoyment out of a super nice car to want to drop 45-50k on one.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.
http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...
These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.
I've read both of his books, and now it's turned out he made some stuff up, but I don't care, I love him and his story anyway!

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#91597
Sep 17, 2013
 
Okay, folks, what ad blocker do you use? I have to stop these incessant popovers that come from the bottom and from the left.

And I"d love it if it could stop the auto-play video ads to the right.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
Nevermind, you hosers. Downloaded Ad Block at work, will do it again when I get home.

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I know it will never, ever happen, but I think if we really wanted to end poverty, the easiest thing to do would be to REQUIRE birth control (implantable in nature) for anyone who accepts food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, and things of that nature.

Paid for by the government, and when you get off of that stuff, if you want to have kids, the government will pay for it to be removed.

There are too many people, anyway. I think we can all agree too, that folks who can't provide for their own children, should not be having them. And if they ever come out with a male BC, they should make men who have kids they can't take care of go on it too.

Don't want to do it, then you don't get benefits, and your kids get removed if you don't have your own safety net to provide for you and them. As Angela has said, I think many of these kids would have a brighter future if we had orphanages. It would cost more, up front, but within a generation, you would have much lower rates of poverty.

Politically, this would never happen, tho.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
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I know it will never, ever happen, but I think if we really wanted to end poverty, the easiest thing to do would be to REQUIRE birth control (implantable in nature) for anyone who accepts food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, and things of that nature.
Paid for by the government, and when you get off of that stuff, if you want to have kids, the government will pay for it to be removed.
There are too many people, anyway. I think we can all agree too, that folks who can't provide for their own children, should not be having them. And if they ever come out with a male BC, they should make men who have kids they can't take care of go on it too.
Don't want to do it, then you don't get benefits, and your kids get removed if you don't have your own safety net to provide for you and them. As Angela has said, I think many of these kids would have a brighter future if we had orphanages. It would cost more, up front, but within a generation, you would have much lower rates of poverty.
Politically, this would never happen, tho.
ITA. That it would help and that it would never happen.

But then pick up the newspaper over the holidays to read about the families in need being highlighted by a local charity for who needs help, and then you read something like, a single mom with three kids is living in the homeless shelter and she's pregnant with #4.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I've read both of his books, and now it's turned out he made some stuff up, but I don't care, I love him and his story anyway!
I was just reading about that, but have to wonder about the validity of those accusations...unless he has admitted them. It's a beautiful story, nonetheless.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
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PE, check out the adorable pic of Katey Sagal from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katey_Sagal
I know her blues album came out to very good critical reviews. Have you even heard it? I should check it out on itunes.
I did not know she was a musician.
It is apropos for Topix though that she did vocals for Loose Cannon.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
-CatCiao- wrote:
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.
http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...
These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.
Supposedly the money he was raising did not go for the schools. It is unclear to me how much else maybe exaggerated.

Do you still have the site where you got those puns last week? I'd love to look at it.
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You missed the entire point, but thats expected since you were really more intent on bashing me than thinking things thru.

Since you want to plead ignorance, let me spell it out for you.

The % that are attending and learning are facing much more adversarial conditions than any kid in chicago, so if you want to break it down to out of every 100 students in both environments, Then pakisani kid is trying harder, and overcoming more adversity to learn than the kid in chicago. The kid in chicago is wasting what the kid in pakistan can only dream of having.

God, you are dense sometimes.
Toj wrote:
Pakistan (since Race mentioned a Pakistan student):
(first the link:http://beta.dawn.com/news /1021255/out-of-school-childre n-pakistan-ranks-second-in-the -world)
"In its annual report titled ĎThe state of Pakistanís children 2012í, the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child (Sparc) said about one fourth of the 19.75 million children in Pakistan aged five to nine were out of school and factoring in adolescents increased the number to 25 million. Of them, seven million children (aged three to five) had yet to receive primary schooling.
"Pakistan has the lowest youth literacy rate with 70.7pc. Only 61pc of girls are literate as compared to 79pc boys in the age group of 15-24 years."

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Sep 17, 2013
 
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The vast majority of folks don't go out fishing because they are budget conscious and are looking for a cheap food source. They do it primarily or significantly for the sporting aspect.
If you are on a boat trolling and fish for big fish like marlin, aka sport sfishing, then one fish is a trophy in and of itself. The boat that I was on was not such a boat. This boat had 50-75 people on board, each standing at a spot along the rail all the way around the boat. The boat would pick a spot and stop. There was no casting. You bait your hook and simply drop it in yhe water directly below you. Typical fish size is about a foot. Hardly sport fishing. To me, the onky sporting aspect is how many you can catch.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
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Supposedly the money he was raising did not go for the schools. It is unclear to me how much else maybe exaggerated.
Do you still have the site where you got those puns last week? I'd love to look at it.
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Here you go!

http://www.jokes4us.com/miscellaneousjokes/cl...

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You missed the entire point, but thats expected since you were really more intent on bashing me than thinking things thru.
Since you want to plead ignorance, let me spell it out for you.
The % that are attending and learning are facing much more adversarial conditions than any kid in chicago, so if you want to break it down to out of every 100 students in both environments, Then pakisani kid is trying harder, and overcoming more adversity to learn than the kid in chicago. The kid in chicago is wasting what the kid in pakistan can only dream of having.
God, you are dense sometimes.
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My intent was to find out how the Pakistan children (and Syrian) are doing. You said one kid did great. Most kids aren't going because of the adversity. I went for more knowledge of how the children are faring in those war torn worlds.

The thing is, your comment says more about you than me. To call me dense b/c you cannot understand what I was saying, well... Ever hear of a question? I know. Shoot first, ask questions later. So mature.

Do you believe one child in Pakistan has a statement how all school children should handle adversity? If so, that's ludicrous.
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Sep 17, 2013
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> After viewing the Social Engineering, that went on during the Zimmerman trial....i am alot more sensitive to agenda-driven news...Example, after the horrible story of the black guy killing 12 at the U.S. Navy Yard....CBS this morning felt compelled to add a segment on the nice black guy, that helped the blind older, black gentleman out of the danger......that in itself is a wonderful side story......if only i was'nt so aware of the timing and the agenda behind it....am i outta line?
It's ALL agenda-driven. Nice to see more people waking up.
It's so gross...I am all about justice, but it needs to be equitable. When they get in arms about a white killing a black, but not a freaking peep is said about the black teen that shot the white baby in the face in the stroller, I tend to get irate.

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So your going to ignore this kids triumphs? That is pretty callous. Yeah, she's no hero, nobody's inspiration, I bet you overcame worse didn't you? Hell, she prolly cant even read very well anyway. Ghetto speak is sooooo much more useful in today's world and Ebonics should be required in all schools!

You're ludicrous, totally and completely!
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Do you believe one child in Pakistan has a statement how all school children should handle adversity? If so, that's ludicrous.

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