“Non mollare mai”

Since: Mar 11

Land of Enchantment

#91593 Sep 17, 2013
RACE wrote:
Yes, millions of kids are. I was speaking globally. And when you consider what some other kids have to do to get to a school, and what that school actually is, you have to wonder why the kids in the US are doing so poorly.
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.

http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...

These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#91594 Sep 17, 2013
Syria school children (from AlJazeera)

The school year has begun in Syria, but attending class is out of the question for thousands of children.

Many live in poverty in a makeshift camp called Atma, on the border with Turkey. Few aid agencies are willing to risk going there.

Since: Aug 08

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#91595 Sep 17, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>This guy was working to go into the inner cities and poor communities to educate them as to their *choices* with their money. And he said it wasn't just low income people making these kinds of choices -- middle class blacks were guilty of it, too.
I see it down here a lot. Iíve noticed A LOT of black folks drive nice cars, much nicer than mine and much nicer than most folks I know (unless they have a lot of money).

Heck, my boss even drives a mazda. My neighborís dad owns a company and he runs the branch down here for him. He and his wife were telling me at Thanksgiving and laughing about how the folks there make barely more than minimum wage, but a lot of them drive a nicer car than his.
Thatís not how I choose to spend my money and a lot of folks I know choose to spend their money.

An amount equal to about 30-35% of what I take home, after taxes, what I put into retirement, and what I contribute for some of my benefits, is put into retirement annually. Iím probably on the more extreme side of saving for retirement (I donít want to work past my late 50s, tho or much past that).

Iíd rather drive an average car, now, live it up during retirement (or leave my wife a bunch of $ if I donít make it that long), have a nice house now, have a few toys, and have money to do things with my family, than drive a flashy car.

I view a very expensive car as a poor spending choice, and I donít care how nice of a car it is ... I just donít get that much enjoyment out of a super nice car to want to drop 45-50k on one.

Since: Jan 10

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#91596 Sep 17, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.
http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...
These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.
I've read both of his books, and now it's turned out he made some stuff up, but I don't care, I love him and his story anyway!

Since: Jan 10

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#91597 Sep 17, 2013
Okay, folks, what ad blocker do you use? I have to stop these incessant popovers that come from the bottom and from the left.

And I"d love it if it could stop the auto-play video ads to the right.

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#91598 Sep 17, 2013
Nevermind, you hosers. Downloaded Ad Block at work, will do it again when I get home.

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#91599 Sep 17, 2013
I know it will never, ever happen, but I think if we really wanted to end poverty, the easiest thing to do would be to REQUIRE birth control (implantable in nature) for anyone who accepts food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, and things of that nature.

Paid for by the government, and when you get off of that stuff, if you want to have kids, the government will pay for it to be removed.

There are too many people, anyway. I think we can all agree too, that folks who can't provide for their own children, should not be having them. And if they ever come out with a male BC, they should make men who have kids they can't take care of go on it too.

Don't want to do it, then you don't get benefits, and your kids get removed if you don't have your own safety net to provide for you and them. As Angela has said, I think many of these kids would have a brighter future if we had orphanages. It would cost more, up front, but within a generation, you would have much lower rates of poverty.

Politically, this would never happen, tho.

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#91600 Sep 17, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
I know it will never, ever happen, but I think if we really wanted to end poverty, the easiest thing to do would be to REQUIRE birth control (implantable in nature) for anyone who accepts food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, and things of that nature.
Paid for by the government, and when you get off of that stuff, if you want to have kids, the government will pay for it to be removed.
There are too many people, anyway. I think we can all agree too, that folks who can't provide for their own children, should not be having them. And if they ever come out with a male BC, they should make men who have kids they can't take care of go on it too.
Don't want to do it, then you don't get benefits, and your kids get removed if you don't have your own safety net to provide for you and them. As Angela has said, I think many of these kids would have a brighter future if we had orphanages. It would cost more, up front, but within a generation, you would have much lower rates of poverty.
Politically, this would never happen, tho.
ITA. That it would help and that it would never happen.

But then pick up the newspaper over the holidays to read about the families in need being highlighted by a local charity for who needs help, and then you read something like, a single mom with three kids is living in the homeless shelter and she's pregnant with #4.

W.T.F.?

“Non mollare mai”

Since: Mar 11

Land of Enchantment

#91601 Sep 17, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I've read both of his books, and now it's turned out he made some stuff up, but I don't care, I love him and his story anyway!
I was just reading about that, but have to wonder about the validity of those accusations...unless he has admitted them. It's a beautiful story, nonetheless.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#91602 Sep 17, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
PE, check out the adorable pic of Katey Sagal from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katey_Sagal
I know her blues album came out to very good critical reviews. Have you even heard it? I should check it out on itunes.
I did not know she was a musician.
It is apropos for Topix though that she did vocals for Loose Cannon.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#91603 Sep 17, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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This reminds me of this incredible man, and this true story.
http://www.threecupsoftea.com/greg-mortenson-...
These children sat in the dirt, with nothing but sticks to write with in their quest for knowledge. It's really fascinating.
Supposedly the money he was raising did not go for the schools. It is unclear to me how much else maybe exaggerated.

Do you still have the site where you got those puns last week? I'd love to look at it.
Thanks

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#91604 Sep 17, 2013
You missed the entire point, but thats expected since you were really more intent on bashing me than thinking things thru.

Since you want to plead ignorance, let me spell it out for you.

The % that are attending and learning are facing much more adversarial conditions than any kid in chicago, so if you want to break it down to out of every 100 students in both environments, Then pakisani kid is trying harder, and overcoming more adversity to learn than the kid in chicago. The kid in chicago is wasting what the kid in pakistan can only dream of having.

God, you are dense sometimes.
Toj wrote:
Pakistan (since Race mentioned a Pakistan student):
(first the link:http://beta.dawn.com/news /1021255/out-of-school-childre n-pakistan-ranks-second-in-the -world)
"In its annual report titled ĎThe state of Pakistanís children 2012í, the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child (Sparc) said about one fourth of the 19.75 million children in Pakistan aged five to nine were out of school and factoring in adolescents increased the number to 25 million. Of them, seven million children (aged three to five) had yet to receive primary schooling.
"Pakistan has the lowest youth literacy rate with 70.7pc. Only 61pc of girls are literate as compared to 79pc boys in the age group of 15-24 years."

“I Am Mine”

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#91605 Sep 17, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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The vast majority of folks don't go out fishing because they are budget conscious and are looking for a cheap food source. They do it primarily or significantly for the sporting aspect.
If you are on a boat trolling and fish for big fish like marlin, aka sport sfishing, then one fish is a trophy in and of itself. The boat that I was on was not such a boat. This boat had 50-75 people on board, each standing at a spot along the rail all the way around the boat. The boat would pick a spot and stop. There was no casting. You bait your hook and simply drop it in yhe water directly below you. Typical fish size is about a foot. Hardly sport fishing. To me, the onky sporting aspect is how many you can catch.

“Non mollare mai”

Since: Mar 11

Land of Enchantment

#91606 Sep 17, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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Supposedly the money he was raising did not go for the schools. It is unclear to me how much else maybe exaggerated.
Do you still have the site where you got those puns last week? I'd love to look at it.
Thanks
Here you go!

http://www.jokes4us.com/miscellaneousjokes/cl...

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

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#91607 Sep 17, 2013
RACE wrote:
You missed the entire point, but thats expected since you were really more intent on bashing me than thinking things thru.
Since you want to plead ignorance, let me spell it out for you.
The % that are attending and learning are facing much more adversarial conditions than any kid in chicago, so if you want to break it down to out of every 100 students in both environments, Then pakisani kid is trying harder, and overcoming more adversity to learn than the kid in chicago. The kid in chicago is wasting what the kid in pakistan can only dream of having.
God, you are dense sometimes.
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My intent was to find out how the Pakistan children (and Syrian) are doing. You said one kid did great. Most kids aren't going because of the adversity. I went for more knowledge of how the children are faring in those war torn worlds.

The thing is, your comment says more about you than me. To call me dense b/c you cannot understand what I was saying, well... Ever hear of a question? I know. Shoot first, ask questions later. So mature.

Do you believe one child in Pakistan has a statement how all school children should handle adversity? If so, that's ludicrous.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#91608 Sep 17, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> After viewing the Social Engineering, that went on during the Zimmerman trial....i am alot more sensitive to agenda-driven news...Example, after the horrible story of the black guy killing 12 at the U.S. Navy Yard....CBS this morning felt compelled to add a segment on the nice black guy, that helped the blind older, black gentleman out of the danger......that in itself is a wonderful side story......if only i was'nt so aware of the timing and the agenda behind it....am i outta line?
It's ALL agenda-driven. Nice to see more people waking up.
It's so gross...I am all about justice, but it needs to be equitable. When they get in arms about a white killing a black, but not a freaking peep is said about the black teen that shot the white baby in the face in the stroller, I tend to get irate.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#91609 Sep 17, 2013
So your going to ignore this kids triumphs? That is pretty callous. Yeah, she's no hero, nobody's inspiration, I bet you overcame worse didn't you? Hell, she prolly cant even read very well anyway. Ghetto speak is sooooo much more useful in today's world and Ebonics should be required in all schools!

You're ludicrous, totally and completely!
Toj wrote:
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Do you believe one child in Pakistan has a statement how all school children should handle adversity? If so, that's ludicrous.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#91610 Sep 17, 2013
And that kid in pakistan shows more guts than I probably have.
Toj wrote:
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My intent was to find out how the Pakistan children (and Syrian) are doing. You said one kid did great. Most kids aren't going because of the adversity. I went for more knowledge of how the children are faring in those war torn worlds.
The thing is, your comment says more about you than me. To call me dense b/c you cannot understand what I was saying, well... Ever hear of a question? I know. Shoot first, ask questions later. So mature.
Do you believe one child in Pakistan has a statement how all school children should handle adversity? If so, that's ludicrous.

Since: Aug 08

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#91611 Sep 17, 2013
RACE wrote:
<quoted text>You're ludicrous, totally and completely!
Like OMG totally!1!

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#91612 Sep 17, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>If you are on a boat trolling and fish for big fish like marlin, aka sport sfishing, then one fish is a trophy in and of itself. The boat that I was on was not such a boat. This boat had 50-75 people on board, each standing at a spot along the rail all the way around the boat. The boat would pick a spot and stop. There was no casting. You bait your hook and simply drop it in yhe water directly below you. Typical fish size is about a foot. Hardly sport fishing. To me, the onky sporting aspect is how many you can catch.
Yeah, but you never know how many you will catch ... if it were that easy to always catch fish, they'd call it "catching," not "fishing." Fish aren't always biting ... some days are good ... some days are bad ... some spots are good on some days ... some spots are bad. High pressure, low pressure, wind ... waves ... water temperature ... currents ... time of year ... tides ... all these things affect fishing.

I just like to fish ... I even like catch and release. I even like fishing in a pond, just for fun. I think most guys who call themselves fishermen are like me.

My buddy and I split 350 to go guide fishing on Lake Geneva a few times. We did it to learn how to fish the lake though. I can catch Walleye like nobody's business up in Canada, but I had been on that lake 50+ times and had never been able to get any out of that lake until he showed us the technique you use there ... lots of bass and a few Northern Pike, but no Walleye. Up in Canada, you can just jig for them. Jigging in Lake Geneva just gets you rock bass, which are basically glorified blue gills. There you had to troll at a specific speed, with a specific rig, and a bit off the bottom.

I even like ice fishing, which basically consists of busting your hump for 45 minutes popping holes in the lake and getting your shanty set up. Then the rest of the day you are bbqing, drinking, playing cards, with the guys and waiting for flags to pop up on tip ups and riding out there on snowmobiles to see what is on your line. It's a lot of fun with a few buddies. I miss doing that.

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