“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#91377 Sep 14, 2013
dahgts wrote:
<quoted text>
how about you add assfornoreason to your list.
not all doctors give those things out for minor ills.
and if they do, dog has no way of knowing and can do nothing about it either way. except be dick and accuse them of not REALLY being handicapped.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#91378 Sep 14, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Well what WAS your point? Or was this just rambling just to ramble?
I was not offering opinion on what to "do" about people gaming the system. My point was the system can be abused.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#91379 Sep 14, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
and if they do, dog has no way of knowing and can do nothing about it either way.
And this is not my argument! So ramble on, I will not engage in an argument that only exists in your head. You're just mad because I pointed out your inconsistency.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

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#91380 Sep 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not offering opinion on what to "do" about people gaming the system. My point was the system can be abused.
Big news. Not!

Every friggin system can be abused. Name one that can't.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#91381 Sep 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
No, and I said as much. If you really need it, fine. I was just asking. No need to be a btch about it. But I guess that's something you just can't help. Might want to add "bitchfornoreason" to your list. But I doubt you can get a handicap sticker for that.
>>but do you REALLY need that sticker?<<

Yeah, bitchfornoreason? WhattheFUCK is this then? Casting aspersions on my character much?

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#91382 Sep 14, 2013
cheluzal wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like you need it, but let's be honest...getting a doctor to sign that single little paper is no great feat.
And I'm NOT saying you are this (just keeping this thought on this same reponse), but so many people with handicapped decals get so angry when no handicapped spot is available.
I've parked cars for events and they yell at you if there is no spot. "But I have a handicapped decal!" as if we can create a spot that doesn't exist.
True. Edog was being a doosh and it pissedmeoff. There are only *so many* handicapped spots so if people get all butt hurt because one isn't available, they need help. I mean I don't get all pushed out of shape when I go to the grocery store and they are all taken, I just find the next closest spot.

FWIW when there are spots close enough, and it doesn't impose a severe problem for me...that is if it doesn't take 30 minutes to walk 20 feet, I will park in other than disabled because I figure there might be someone who needs it more than I do; wheelchair, van with a lift for a wheelchair, someone with crutches or a cane (I don't need a cane right now, though it is in my car just in case). Actually this is the case probably 9/10 times because I try to patronize places that aren't crazy packed with people. Not for parking reasons more for I don't like people reasons. <shrug>

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#91383 Sep 14, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
Awesome that the police told you about a civil suit. Dumbbitch! There are certain things that are private, yanno? Dumbbitch.
Right? I wouldn't spend the time doing it. First I'm better than her, second, what would I get anyway a hundred bucks punitive money and court costs? Not even worth the time to file it. But yeah cool cop.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#91384 Sep 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Casting aspersions on my character much?
Given the way you act on here, yes.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#91385 Sep 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Edog was being a doosh and it pissedmeoff.
I asked a question. If that pissedyouoff and makes me a doosh, that's on you.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#91386 Sep 14, 2013
Toj wrote:
Every friggin system can be abused.
Exactly my point. Thanks for understanding.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#91387 Sep 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
<quoted text>
>>but do you REALLY need that sticker?<<
Yeah, bitchfornoreason? WhattheFUCK is this then? Casting aspersions on my character much?
I am not defending eDog here.

I think the question is whether the parking placards should be confined to people who have mobility limitations or whether they should also be available to people with exertional limitations.

The Chicago area has had some pretty big abuses. There are on-street parking spaces which are free for people with handicap stickers. Meter parking for the rest of us is astronomical. People use relatives stickers. People without stickers at all park there.

A few years back there was an expose abut doctors who would write the note for a placard for anyone who asked. I knew, first hand, one guy who got one because he carried a diagnosis of paranoia- nothing else. Personally, I don't think the system was meant for that sort of thing. The question is where do you draw a line?

I applaud your initiative and tenacity to travel the places you have been. I wish I could go some of those places. I am truly envious. Others I have been to.

I am also familiar with the diseases on your list. You have been dealt a rotten hand, no doubt about it.How do you cope when you have a flare up someplace like Nepal or Morocco?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#91388 Sep 14, 2013
I don't pay much attention to handicap parking scofflaws.
Tonka, I have a computer guru coming over tomorrow morning to try and fire up my computer.
Went to Fry's today and kinda chewed the guy out when he started laughing about my problem. I had to remind him that I did buy it off them originally. It's only a few years old and has always worked fine for me.
It's just really disappointing that I may have to shell out a few hundred dollars because someone hacked my system.
I'll let you know what happens.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#91389 Sep 14, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>

I am also familiar with the diseases on your list. You have been dealt a rotten hand, no doubt about it.How do you cope when you have a flare up someplace like Nepal or Morocco?
I've been really lucky for the most part. I did get really sick in Morocco, and I still maintain that if everyone had just let me ALONE and NOT insisted I go to the ER I wouldn't have gotten as sick as I did, but, whatever yanno? The hospital, and I use that word loosely, in that neighborhood left a lot to be desired. Fortunately the consulate took pity on me and got me seen by the same doctors the (American) embassy workers use so I lived.

Also a lot of it was when I was younger and dealt with/bounced back easier, before the COPD and CHF...

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#91390 Sep 14, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not defending eDog here.
I think the question is whether the parking placards should be confined to people who have mobility limitations or whether they should also be available to people with exertional limitations.
I'm sure Chicago has abuses. It's Chicago. If there wasn't corruption it just wouldn't be Chicago.:) There are abuses to all systems everywhere in all cities. That's life. I do not think though that the vast majority of people are abusing the system, the rare doctor that will sign it for any reason (and $$$ I imagine) not withstanding.

I get the whole mobility limitations thing, but really, someone in a wheelchair actually could possibly have an easier (nor easy, just easiER) time getting from A to B than I do, especially if it's motorized. There is not a need to stop in order to breathe every few feet, there is not the non-cooperation of their muscles and joints when trying to walk, there is not a loss of balance threatening to topple them on to the asphalt in front of the entire world.

Unless you (the general you) need to stop every 15 feet because it's too far to walk for all of the reasons I listed (medically) independently and in any configuration as well as a whole bunch of other stuff I didn't mention then you (again the general you) have no idea how important it is to be able to park as close as possible.

And no matter what anyone thinks about what Edog was trying to say, the fact that he not only questioned my need, but the manner in which he did it cast doubt on my veracity. It was offensive and insulting. It is a perfect example of the DB woman today who thinks that they know better than ALL of my doctors whether or not I have mobility issues.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Des Plaines, IL

#91391 Sep 14, 2013
so close yet so far for me on some of the stuff from germany.... haven't been to oktoberfest (too many people for my liking) and we haven't made it to the big castle. while we haven't made it to frankfurt for the christmas market, we have been to nurnburg (sp?) which was the first, adn the one in hte big square in munich, which is very large.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#91392 Sep 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not offering opinion on what to "do" about people gaming the system. My point was the system can be abused.
no shit einstein. Everything can be abused. So because its possible to abuse the system, its ok to assume anyone who does not look crippled enough for you is committing fraud and needs to be put on trial by some stranger in a parking lot?
famous poster

Schaumburg, IL

#91393 Sep 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
I don't pay much attention to handicap parking scofflaws.
Tonka, I have a computer guru coming over tomorrow morning to try and fire up my computer.
Went to Fry's today and kinda chewed the guy out when he started laughing about my problem. I had to remind him that I did buy it off them originally. It's only a few years old and has always worked fine for me.
It's just really disappointing that I may have to shell out a few hundred dollars because someone hacked my system.
I'll let you know what happens.
You- you probably have a placard to park IN the stores!

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#91394 Sep 14, 2013
PEllen wrote:
I think the question is whether the parking placards should be confined to people who have mobility limitations or whether they should also be available to people with exertional limitations.
Its fine to discuss what you think the law SHOULD be. I have no issue with conversation about how the system could be modified to reduce abuses. But seeing as right now, the law allows for people with exertional limitations to get one, it is out of line to go up to a stranger and pretty much say, "You, sir. You are not displaying what I consider to be the requisite limp to deserve a handicapped placard. You must be faking or using someone else's placard. I demand you prove to ME that you are authorized to use that spot! Disclose to me your medical reason for having that placard"

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#91395 Sep 14, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>no shit einstein. Everything can be abused. So because its possible to abuse the system, its ok to assume anyone who does not look crippled enough for you is committing fraud and needs to be put on trial by some stranger in a parking lot?
No.

And never said otherwise.

Again, you're trying to engage me in a argument that only exists in your head.

“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

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