“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

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#90802 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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HA!
I remember getting scotch tape across my lips in grade school when I wouldn't stop talking in class. I deserved it.
Ha..
When I was in kindergarten I got put in a corner for blowing in an empty Good and Plenty box. That makes a great noise! That wasn't the only humiliation I suffered from those nuns through grade school. Some deserved, some not.

Since: Feb 10

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#90803 Sep 5, 2013
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/09/...

Wow, there's a lot of anger in the comments...

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#90804 Sep 5, 2013
itser wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_ factor/2013/09/03/couple_angry _about_expecting_twins_writes_ about_it_on_babble_commenters. html?wpisrc=obnetwork
Wow, there's a lot of anger in the comments...
I liked this comment:

""After TWO YEARS of fertility calendars, intrauterine inseminations, and in vitro fertilization, they are now pregnant with twins". And they never read the consent forms, or thought to themselves, "Gee, what if we have twins?"
One of the first things fertility clinics tell you is that there is a possibility of multiple births.
There should be an IQ test in those clinics."

I guess good on them for saying how they feel, anonymously, but *really*? They sound like spoiled idiots. Did they not realize that sometimes one pregnancy results in more than one baby? Especially assuming they're older and with the fertility treatments.

Since: Jan 10

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#90805 Sep 5, 2013
itser wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_ factor/2013/09/03/couple_angry _about_expecting_twins_writes_ about_it_on_babble_commenters. html?wpisrc=obnetwork
Wow, there's a lot of anger in the comments...
I think it's justified anger. This couple never should have gone for kid #2. They spent a fortune on those infertility treatments, and now they're complaining about not being able to afford twins?

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#90806 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I think it's justified anger. This couple never should have gone for kid #2. They spent a fortune on those infertility treatments, and now they're complaining about not being able to afford twins?
After reading this, I think they should never have had Kid #1. What horrible people.

Since: Feb 10

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#90807 Sep 5, 2013
I don't know.

My mother loved me. I never had any doubts about that at all. But I also knew from a pretty young age that she was upset/angry when she found out she was carrying me and that she did NOT want to be pregnant again. She had five kids and then after a long stretch she had my youngest brother. After an even longer stretch, surprise - there I was.

If it had been available back in the stone age, she may have also used the internet to vent about how overwhelmed she was feeling, and that is mostly what I got from these two. Better to do it anonymously online with a bunch of strangers than to vent to family members who may throw it back in their faces later, when they have young children hearing it in the only way they could...mommy and daddy love our big brother but they hate us.

I thought they mostly sounded overwhelmed, worried, and scared. The kids have probably been born by now. Hopefully, mom and dad have gotten their feet under them by now and are feeling differently.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#90808 Sep 5, 2013
My friend C and her husband are still having trouble wrapping their brains around pregnancy #4 (failed vasectomy, she's due in a month). They're both pretty Type A. It's not like they're hurting for money; it's more of the stress of raising 4 instead of 3. The had gotten rid of all their baby stuff, but she's super thrifty and doesn't buy much of that kind of stuff first hand anyway.

I guess, me not having kids, I'm thinking "What's the big deal?" I can see the shock of going from zero to one or even from one to two, and I get being upset right off the bat, but they've had 7 months to get used to the idea. I'm hoping they loosen up once he gets here or get psychological help.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather my family get unexpectedly bigger rather than unexpectedly smaller, which has generally been the case for me.

Since: Jan 10

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#90809 Sep 5, 2013
We have a panoramic photo of a forest full of birch trees in our big handicapped private bathroom. IT's not hung up on the wall yet, it's on the floor leaning against the wall.

So today, I printed off a tiny (like, 1/2 to 3/4 inch tall) Where's Waldo guy, cut around him, used invisible tape, and put him up in the trees. You don't even notice him when you glance at the picture.

My boss is going to be pissed, which is partly why I did it. SHe gets all bent out of shape over harmless things.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#90810 Sep 5, 2013
itser wrote:
I don't know.
My mother loved me. I never had any doubts about that at all. But I also knew from a pretty young age that she was upset/angry when she found out she was carrying me and that she did NOT want to be pregnant again. She had five kids and then after a long stretch she had my youngest brother. After an even longer stretch, surprise - there I was.
If it had been available back in the stone age, she may have also used the internet to vent about how overwhelmed she was feeling, and that is mostly what I got from these two. Better to do it anonymously online with a bunch of strangers than to vent to family members who may throw it back in their faces later, when they have young children hearing it in the only way they could...mommy and daddy love our big brother but they hate us.
I thought they mostly sounded overwhelmed, worried, and scared. The kids have probably been born by now. Hopefully, mom and dad have gotten their feet under them by now and are feeling differently.
I agree with you. We did not have to do amy fertility treatments to get #2, and even though twins was not likely, the possibility is always biologiacally there. I would have felt the same way.

Life does not always go exactly as planned, and when it doesn't, you have wvery right to be less than thrilled. One need not be rich to undergo these treatments. I have a friend that had 2 kids thru IVF. They scrimped and saved and sacrificed other things in order to afford it.

Regardless, if you are planning for 2 babies and end up with 3, its probably more of a burden than if you were planning on zero babies and oops, you get pregnant.

Why should one get a pass on feeling upset with one oops baby, but villified for being upset with twins?

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90811 Sep 5, 2013
Dickie and I are getting an unexpected date night tomorrow night; it seems the girls talked the MIL into a sleepover. We talked about it last night and decided to go see a movie.

Well, the movie choices currently out there are so pathetic that we've decided to go out for dinner and get a movie on-demand instead. <shakes head> I cannot believe there is NOTHING out there that we'd be willing to blow $20+ on. Simply pathetic.

Since: Jan 10

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#90812 Sep 5, 2013
Tonka, it's mostly because they put so much money, time and effort toward trying to conceive, and now they're bitching about two instead of one, when that was A KNOWN RISK from day one. They sound insufferable.

Since: Jan 10

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#90813 Sep 5, 2013
And they could have aborted one of the fetuses. COuples with multiples from fertility drugs do that all the time.

Since: Jan 10

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#90814 Sep 5, 2013
squishymama wrote:
Dickie and I are getting an unexpected date night tomorrow night; it seems the girls talked the MIL into a sleepover. We talked about it last night and decided to go see a movie.
Well, the movie choices currently out there are so pathetic that we've decided to go out for dinner and get a movie on-demand instead. <shakes head> I cannot believe there is NOTHING out there that we'd be willing to blow $20+ on. Simply pathetic.
THE NEW VIN DIESEL RIDDICK MOVIE IS OUT!!!!!

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90815 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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THE NEW VIN DIESEL RIDDICK MOVIE IS OUT!!!!!
I just read the review in the Trib and emailed it over to Dickie. We're probably some of the few folks who've actually seen "Pitch Black" (but not for Vin. We dig Claudia Black, from Farscape, so we watched it for her very brief appearance) but we were not impressed with "Riddick."

We'll see what Dickie says...

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90816 Sep 5, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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After reading this, I think they should never have had Kid #1. What horrible people.
This. What self-centered, self-absorbed brats. They have to be royally dense to not know they could very well have twins. They go through all that, get what they were trying for and then complain.

I am seriously concerned about the future of those kids.

Since: Jan 10

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#90817 Sep 5, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I just read the review in the Trib and emailed it over to Dickie. We're probably some of the few folks who've actually seen "Pitch Black" (but not for Vin. We dig Claudia Black, from Farscape, so we watched it for her very brief appearance) but we were not impressed with "Riddick."
We'll see what Dickie says...
Honestly, I loved Pitch Black, I've seen it 3-4 times. I also really liked Chronicls of Riddick ("the Chronic WHAT cles of Narnia")(have you seen that SNL short? hilarious).

So I"m looking forward to this one, but Nick and I decided we would be fine not spending $20 to see it in the theatre and could wait six months until it is available to watch on demand or via REd Box.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90818 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Tonka, it's mostly because they put so much money, time and effort toward trying to conceive, and now they're bitching about two instead of one, when that was A KNOWN RISK from day one. They sound insufferable.
This is basically what I was going to say to Tonka. It was far from an oops. They TRIED for it and paid for the treatments. Treatments that very often produce multiples. It is a common known fact.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#90819 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Tonka, it's mostly because they put so much money, time and effort toward trying to conceive, and now they're bitching about two instead of one, when that was A KNOWN RISK from day one. They sound insufferable.
Getting into a car accident is a known risk when you get into a car. Does not mean I should be expected to not be upset if it happens. And it would seem to me that the money aspect should play a role on how THEY view it, not you. As in we spent so much trying to get the family we wanted and now, this curveball of an unexpected additional child is going to wreak havoc on everything we can afford.

Take me for example. With 2 children, we could afford to put them in daycare while my wife continued to work and bring home a paycheck. 3 kids? The difference in her take home vs what would go back out to daycare would make work almost a waste. So we'd now have more mouths to feed and all on one paycheck. Can't do hand me downs since twins incur simultaneous expenses. Saving for college just zoomed past what was planned. Vacations became more expensive. Any extra-curriculars activities after school shot up. Food cost. Diapers.

I think its a very depressing 'surprise' to get. I presume they will make the best of the situation just like those with one surprise baby, but it does not make them bad people to be upset that their lives just took a big detour from what they were planning.

Since: Jan 10

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#90820 Sep 5, 2013
Except the risk for multiples is greatly increased when you are getting fertility treatments. The handful of couples I know who have endured those treatments got one kid, and then stopped. They didn't risk health (there are risks) and finances to try for kid #2. They felt like they wre lucky to get one, and then quit, knowing that having another one was even more difficult, and having 2+ at once isn't something they wanted either (not with already having a kid).

So, no, they don't get to bitch about it.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#90821 Sep 5, 2013
TonkaLogic... Insufferable!
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Getting into a car accident is a known risk when you get into a car. Does not mean I should be expected to not be upset if it happens. And it would seem to me that the money aspect should play a role on how THEY view it, not you. As in we spent so much trying to get the family we wanted and now, this curveball of an unexpected additional child is going to wreak havoc on everything we can afford.
Take me for example. With 2 children, we could afford to put them in daycare while my wife continued to work and bring home a paycheck. 3 kids? The difference in her take home vs what would go back out to daycare would make work almost a waste. So we'd now have more mouths to feed and all on one paycheck. Can't do hand me downs since twins incur simultaneous expenses. Saving for college just zoomed past what was planned. Vacations became more expensive. Any extra-curriculars activities after school shot up. Food cost. Diapers.
I think its a very depressing 'surprise' to get. I presume they will make the best of the situation just like those with one surprise baby, but it does not make them bad people to be upset that their lives just took a big detour from what they were planning.

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