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A noted observer

Arlington Heights, IL

#90762 Sep 4, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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A lynch mob would absolutely be revenge. If you or a loved one had ever been the victim of a violent crime, you would understand that desire. I was teasing you, by the way. I don't think that's the right thing to do.
And because I don't agree with your propaganda, I am in the perfect position to argue semantics. You say potato...etc. Call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day, I want dangerous criminals locked up, and what they do to each other there is of little consequence to me. The violence in prison has nothing to do with revenge and everything to do with a caste system, and levels of power. It's a complete society, with expected behaviors, and power plays.
Again...don't like jail, don't break the law.
Thanks for the compliment ;)
The list-maker said the lynch mob would be justice. In fact, he agreed with you that prison *justice* would be justice rather than "revenge". Personally, why do we even have Thesauruses when a mob can decide that ONLY one word can be used?

My beef is that people are so impotent that, rather than change the justice system, they try to satiate their own sense of justice by hoping criminals in prison mete out the harsh sentence that they had desired. I'm no fan of crime. I just don't think it should be compounded by having prisoners- the dregs of society- elevated to god-like status. I think that's a cop out. Those people are murderers and thieves- not USSC justices.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#90763 Sep 4, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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My friend Mindy told me to call her if it happens again, since she keeps her phone next to her bed, as her alarm clock.
But like Nick said, it's time to start having something for supper even when I"m not feeling up to eating (like last night, at the bar after softball, I just wasn't feeling hungry). As an adult, I should eat because I know I should eat.
You know you must eat, especially spending so much energy on softball. It's like driving a car without fuel--your body basically pulled to the side of the road and chunked out.

An updated bloodwork can't hurt. You know I keep my physicals up and check all out, but half a year ago I had these serious chest pains, nothing like I've ever felt. Funny stupid thing is, I refused to call 911. I knew it was not a heart attack and wouldn't pay for the ER deductible and ambulance, lol. It was hard to breath and I remember saying, "Lord if this is how you kill me, do it quicker." After a few it went away. I'm kinda convinced I might have had a tiny embolism.*shrug*

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90764 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
I just don't think it should be compounded by having prisoners- the dregs of society- elevated to god-like status.
You have a very skewed perspective if you equate this to elevating them to go-like status. I see it more like being happy that a pack of animals ripped one of them to shreds. I see none of them as heroes or gods.

We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Unfortunately, that is the most fitting kind in some cases. I have zero problem with an eye for an eye. If the legal system can't mete out the justice I crave, I have no problem taking some solace that one animal might get savaged by another inside the cage.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90765 Sep 4, 2013
You have a very skewed perspective if you equate this to elevating them to *GOD*-like status.
A noted observer

Arlington Heights, IL

#90767 Sep 4, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> You have a very skewed perspective if you equate this to elevating them to go-like status. I see it more like being happy that a pack of animals ripped one of them to shreds. I see none of them as heroes or gods.
We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Unfortunately, that is the most fitting kind in some cases. I have zero problem with an eye for an eye. If the legal system can't mete out the justice I crave, I have no problem taking some solace that one animal might get savaged by another inside the cage.
Well, you are an idiot if you think I meant that literally "god-like" rather than assigning them the ultimate power of life and death...like a god would have. But, would you do it yourself? I get that you would sit back while others did it for or, even TO you if they- as the mob- reached a decision about you or anyone else.

Now, maybe I am wrong that a civilized society should have laws and punishments and governments deciding these things? It's not perfect like you think lynch mob or prison justice is. Evidently you see nothing wrong with putting a murderer in prison and allowing him to murder again because he may do some of his murdering for societies benefit. Not me. If the guy likes to murder he should be denied that opportunity in prison.

It's a slippery slope. One can go to prison for vigilante justice and then be killed, in prison, by vigilantes there. That's some irony! Boy, whoever said "don't commit crime" really nailed it! And, I might add, stay away from mobs seeking *justice*....

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90768 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
Well, you are an idiot
Thank you. Coming from you, I take it as a compliment.
A noted observer wrote:
But, would you do it yourself?
If I was the violated party? If I was the father of a girl held captive for 10 years? Hell yes. the only thing that would stop me is the possibility that *I* would be prosecuted.
A noted observer wrote:
Evidently you see nothing wrong with putting a murderer in prison and allowing him to murder again because he may do some of his murdering for societies benefit.
Actually, I prefer to put them to death, but if they end up in prison, let the animals maul each other.
A noted observer wrote:
If the guy likes to murder he should be denied that opportunity in prison.
I prefer "If the guy likes to murder, he should be denied the opportunity to breathe"

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#90770 Sep 4, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I am surprised he expects her to pay rent when she is newly unemployed and he has no mortgage.
And she obviously is thinking marriage and kids, but it doesn't sound Iike they have discussed these things and are making plans toward a lifetime commitment. Ignore the rent issue. Moving in together with different expectations and motives sounds like a future letter to an advice columnist.
Hope she writes to Hax and not Amby.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90771 Sep 4, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I am surprised he expects her to pay rent when she is newly unemployed and he has no mortgage.
And she obviously is thinking marriage and kids, but it doesn't sound Iike they have discussed these things and are making plans toward a lifetime commitment. Ignore the rent issue. Moving in together with different expectations and motives sounds like a future letter to an advice columnist.
Where do you get that he has no mortgage? I "own" my home too, but I'll be paying a mortgage for another 15-20 years.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90772 Sep 4, 2013
Another post by her.
"I was under the impression that my boyfriend of three years wanted to take the next step and live together not take in a boarder. He doesn't need help on his mortgage and what I pay half to be out on my ass if it doesn't work out?"
So he does have a mortgage. I love how she's worried about if it does not work out after she's paid him rent. How is it any different than if they bothe paid rent to a landlord?

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90773 Sep 4, 2013
Another post by her.

" That's just it, there are other expenses to living besides rent and I have no problem with assisting with those. That is his house and if it doesn't work I paid rent to pad his account and have to come up with first , last and deposit to move else where. WHY SHOULD HE GAIN FINANCIALLY TO LIVE WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND!!!!"

Conveniently overlooking the fact that she wants the financial gain of not paying rent for living with her boyfriend.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#90774 Sep 5, 2013
Amy

http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/T9123RPL1J...

Abby

http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/TIUJC9S6UK...

I always love that knock on the door at 1:30 in the morning by a sobbing woman who was beaten by her boyfriend. How's everybody else's morning!?

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#90775 Sep 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Where do you get that he has no mortgage? I "own" my home too, but I'll be paying a mortgage for another 15-20 years.
Good catch. I just read it as he has paid off his mortgage but I think I was wrong to read it that way.

However, I don't think she should pay half his mortgage. First of all, what if his mortgage is rather high, and half is more than she'd be paying in rent at an apartment of her choosing? I think she should pay something, and not some piddly amount like $200/month. But I also think he should cut her a break for a couple of months while she looks for another job.

But I also think rent isn't the issue. She wants to move in with it leading to marriage and babies, and she doesn't know that that is his plan. They need to talk about the future.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#90777 Sep 5, 2013
He did not say half his mortage, he said...
"you can pay the same that your paying now to your current roommate, I wouldn't ask you for anymore than that" So, since she already has a roommate that could be quite low.

The more I read, the whinier she gets.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Good catch. I just read it as he has paid off his mortgage but I think I was wrong to read it that way.
However, I don't think she should pay half his mortgage. First of all, what if his mortgage is rather high, and half is more than she'd be paying in rent at an apartment of her choosing? I think she should pay something, and not some piddly amount like $200/month. But I also think he should cut her a break for a couple of months while she looks for another job.
But I also think rent isn't the issue. She wants to move in with it leading to marriage and babies, and she doesn't know that that is his plan. They need to talk about the future.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#90778 Sep 5, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you are an idiot if you think I meant that literally "god-like" rather than assigning them the ultimate power of life and death...like a god would have. But, would you do it yourself? I get that you would sit back while others did it for or, even TO you if they- as the mob- reached a decision about you or anyone else.
Now, maybe I am wrong that a civilized society should have laws and punishments and governments deciding these things? It's not perfect like you think lynch mob or prison justice is. Evidently you see nothing wrong with putting a murderer in prison and allowing him to murder again because he may do some of his murdering for societies benefit. Not me. If the guy likes to murder he should be denied that opportunity in prison.
It's a slippery slope. One can go to prison for vigilante justice and then be killed, in prison, by vigilantes there. That's some irony! Boy, whoever said "don't commit crime" really nailed it! And, I might add, stay away from mobs seeking *justice*....
I thought you said you were in NC or something like that? You are just one big "web" of deceit lol.

Get it spider monkey?

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#90780 Sep 5, 2013
RACE wrote:
He did not say half his mortage, he said...
"you can pay the same that your paying now to your current roommate, I wouldn't ask you for anymore than that" So, since she already has a roommate that could be quite low.
The more I read, the whinier she gets.
<quoted text>
Thanks for that (I didn't care enough to go back and re-read the original thing from last night).

So her current rent could be $500, and his mortgage payment could be $2,000, so that's still a good deal for her. I don't think he's wrong to think she should pay something to live with him. I still think they need to talk about their futures.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#90781 Sep 5, 2013
This week's Dear Prudence column, for those who are bored enough to read more::)

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prude...

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#90782 Sep 5, 2013
Dear Prudie:

L1: This is a nightmare for you only if you allow it to be. Your father's legal mess will not cost you any money unless you hire an attorney to sue his estate for something. Otherwise, it's only as much of a headache as you allow it to be.

At any rate, I Think what you're really worried about is, when your dad dies, you want to be sure you get your full fair share of what he's acquired and earned over his lifetime. That's what's really motivating you here. And I think your dad has you pegged.

L2: Holy crap. Either show him the video (forward the email so he knows she sent it to you), or act like you saw nothing, and never, ever be alone with her or do or say anything she can use against you. She is nuts.

L3: It's really not your call. The baby should be put up for adoption, but good luck with that.

L4: Use her toothbrush to clean that toilet. And if she hassles you again, wipe your ass with her pillow case. She is nuts. EVERYBODY leaves marks in the bowl now and then. It's not just you. Does your wife not poop?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#90783 Sep 5, 2013
Agreed, her future is all about marriage and babies, not contributing financially.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Thanks for that (I didn't care enough to go back and re-read the original thing from last night).
So her current rent could be $500, and his mortgage payment could be $2,000, so that's still a good deal for her. I don't think he's wrong to think she should pay something to live with him. I still think they need to talk about their futures.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#90784 Sep 5, 2013
RACE wrote:
Agreed, her future is all about marriage and babies, not contributing financially.
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She does come off as seeing her boyfriend as a dollar sign.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#90785 Sep 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Dear Prudie:
L1: This is a nightmare for you only if you allow it to be. Your father's legal mess will not cost you any money unless you hire an attorney to sue his estate for something. Otherwise, it's only as much of a headache as you allow it to be.
At any rate, I Think what you're really worried about is, when your dad dies, you want to be sure you get your full fair share of what he's acquired and earned over his lifetime. That's what's really motivating you here. And I think your dad has you pegged.
L2: Holy crap. Either show him the video (forward the email so he knows she sent it to you), or act like you saw nothing, and never, ever be alone with her or do or say anything she can use against you. She is nuts.
L3: It's really not your call. The baby should be put up for adoption, but good luck with that.
L4: Use her toothbrush to clean that toilet. And if she hassles you again, wipe your ass with her pillow case. She is nuts. EVERYBODY leaves marks in the bowl now and then. It's not just you. Does your wife not poop?
L1 Unless he or your stepmom is a CPA, his Federal income taxes are probably a mess as well; his state property taxes are probably okay or the state would have done tax sales out from under him. His accountant should be the first line of contact. Also, although setting up a corporation can be done over the internet, an LLC ( a limited liability company) is a bit more complicated. From everything I have ever heard, anything to do with real estate must be on paper; those verbal and handshake deals don't count

Interviewing estate planners and i dragging him there is the same thing as trying to get a competent adult to see and listen to a doctor. If they don't want to, they don't have to and there is nothing you can do about it.

The best line of persuasion is probably scare him with how much tx he can save or obits from 65 year old guys/friends who suddenly croaked.

And if your dad is on the deed of your mom's house and she is not,, she needs to talk to someone because whoever owns the house could kick her out the moment he dies, no questions asked.

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