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Since: Mar 11

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#90742 Sep 4, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Thanks for all the kind words, folks. I was pretty scared at 1 a.m.! Unfortunately, I don't have juice or sugared sodas in the house, but those would be the easiest, fastest thing, I think, and preferable to taking a spoonful of sugar.
But I think I'll get prepared so if it happens again, I can have something handy. I'm going to see what the expiration date is on the juice boxes Nick buys his kids, and help myself to one or two to keep in my fridge.
Glad to hear you are feeling better after your episode, Redhead. Be kind to yourself :)

Since: Oct 12

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#90743 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>OK, I know you mean well but, we've got to stop this notion that prisoners are the ultimate/only *justice* in our society. Honestly, what kind of a *civilization* is that?
..Fiscally responsible?.....

Since: Oct 12

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#90744 Sep 4, 2013
Toj wrote:
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I figure the guards gave him the rope or belt or whatever he hung himself with.
Being the industrious "Can-do" guy that he was, Fox has reported, he used bed sheets.....
A noted observer

Arlington Heights, IL

#90745 Sep 4, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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I'm all for lynch mobs when our justice system protects the criminal instead of the victim.
Due punishment is not revenge; it's supposed to be a deterrent. And there is an easy fix to criminals getting brutalized by other prisoners. Obey the law in the first place.
You have a very pretty eye but, you are in no better position to quibble semantics than that anal-retentive list-maker.

So, you don't think a lynch mob would be revenge? That prisoners brutalizing each other isn't revenge? I hate to quibble semantics- that's for sorry cheesedcks- but, is that "justice"?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#90746 Sep 4, 2013
Hey, their your words not mine. I cherry picked nothing.
and yeah I will be part of the mob because I am not a dipsheit criminal.
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Well, there should be a special place in prison (let's call it "general population") for people who cherry pick others posts.
I gather you are in favor of lynchings. I guess you assume you'll be part of the mob, rather than the target?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#90747 Sep 4, 2013
If the victim was the one doing the brutalizing or lynching then I would call it revenge. But when the clan as a whole does it, thats justice and not semantics.
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>You have a very pretty eye but, you are in no better position to quibble semantics than that anal-retentive list-maker.
So, you don't think a lynch mob would be revenge? That prisoners brutalizing each other isn't revenge? I hate to quibble semantics- that's for sorry cheesedcks- but, is that "justice"?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#90748 Sep 4, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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Keep some candy in the night stand. Or maybe get some of those jelly packets from the restaurant and bring a few home and keep them there. Also honey is fast and easy.
Honey! Great idea.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#90749 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Society's revenge is supposed to be putting people prison. Hoping that once certain miscreants get there that they are further brutalized by murderers and thieves is like admitting that our judicial system doesn't work. We might as well cut to the chase and go back to the lynch mobs of the old west and the south of the early 20th century.
It depends on your theory of incarceration.
Do you lock someone up to punish them
It is society's retribution?
Does society have an obligation to rehabilitate a person?
Are the services available to a guy who could get out in 40 years different than those for whom there will be no parole?
For me, personally, for crimes of violence against a person or really massive crimes that impacted lots of people, like Madoff, jail is punishment and any retribution meted out by the prison population bothers me less.
For the people who might be back in society, punishment should be balanced with rehabilitation so there is a lower chance of recidivism.

Ariel Castro stood in court and said he was not a monster. He was a monster. I agree that eh system needed to just lock him away because they struck the deal of death penalty, but , as with Dahmer, I am not sorry events intervened.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#90750 Sep 4, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm all for lynch mobs when our justice system protects the criminal instead of the victim.
Due punishment is not revenge; it's supposed to be a deterrent. And there is an easy fix to criminals getting brutalized by other prisoners. Obey the law in the first place.
Have you ever read the whole Frankenstein story or the story behind the Rossini opera The Thieving Magpie or read about the crimes committed by the blacks who were lynched in the American South? Lynch mobs ignore the process of fact finding and truth. But once that part is honored, I think that merely being put in jail is no longer a deterrent or even much punishment.
A noted observer

Arlington Heights, IL

#90751 Sep 4, 2013
RACE wrote:
Hey, their your words not mine. I cherry picked nothing.
and yeah I will be part of the mob because I am not a dipsheit criminal.
<quoted text>
You are if the mob says so...

Since: Jan 10

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#90752 Sep 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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It depends on your theory of incarceration.
Do you lock someone up to punish them
It is society's retribution?
Does society have an obligation to rehabilitate a person?
Are the services available to a guy who could get out in 40 years different than those for whom there will be no parole?
For me, personally, for crimes of violence against a person or really massive crimes that impacted lots of people, like Madoff, jail is punishment and any retribution meted out by the prison population bothers me less.
For the people who might be back in society, punishment should be balanced with rehabilitation so there is a lower chance of recidivism.
Ariel Castro stood in court and said he was not a monster. He was a monster. I agree that eh system needed to just lock him away because they struck the deal of death penalty, but , as with Dahmer, I am not sorry events intervened.
I worked on the Michael Milkin junk bonds litigation about 20 years ago. The woman in our office who was in charge of the case said that he deserved the death penalty as if he had committed murder, because he destroyed people's lives. Elderly people lost their life savings. 50-60 year olds lost everything. Parents with kids in college lost everything.

I can't agree with it, but I can understand her thought process there.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#90753 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Society's revenge is supposed to be putting people prison. Hoping that once certain miscreants get there that they are further brutalized by murderers and thieves is like admitting that our judicial system doesn't work. We might as well cut to the chase and go back to the lynch mobs of the old west and the south of the early 20th century.
Still studying spiders?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#90754 Sep 4, 2013
Which is why I prefaced my remarks with "After a fair trial"
Please try to keep up, and stop standing on the semantics of "mob"
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>You are if the mob says so...

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#90755 Sep 4, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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Still studying spiders?
hah! I had a suspicion myself that he was the spider dude.

Since: Mar 11

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#90756 Sep 4, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>You have a very pretty eye but, you are in no better position to quibble semantics than that anal-retentive list-maker.
So, you don't think a lynch mob would be revenge? That prisoners brutalizing each other isn't revenge? I hate to quibble semantics- that's for sorry cheesedcks- but, is that "justice"?
A lynch mob would absolutely be revenge. If you or a loved one had ever been the victim of a violent crime, you would understand that desire. I was teasing you, by the way. I don't think that's the right thing to do.

And because I don't agree with your propaganda, I am in the perfect position to argue semantics. You say potato...etc. Call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day, I want dangerous criminals locked up, and what they do to each other there is of little consequence to me. The violence in prison has nothing to do with revenge and everything to do with a caste system, and levels of power. It's a complete society, with expected behaviors, and power plays.

Again...don't like jail, don't break the law.

Thanks for the compliment ;)

Since: Jan 10

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#90757 Sep 4, 2013
Okay, I"m outta here in 10 minutes! I get to babysit two adorable, fun, nice kids tonight so their parents can go to mom's company picnic together. The 3yo is hilarious, the 18 month old hasn't stopped drooling since she was born (so gross -- I can handle a poopy diaper better than that cold, wet shirt), and the girls are hoots. And they're in bed at 7:15, so I get a couple of hours to myself.

I also get to drive through one of the worst 'hoods in the cities to get there -- North Minneapolis.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#90758 Sep 4, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Okay, I"m outta here in 10 minutes! I get to babysit two adorable, fun, nice kids tonight so their parents can go to mom's company picnic together. The 3yo is hilarious, the 18 month old hasn't stopped drooling since she was born (so gross -- I can handle a poopy diaper better than that cold, wet shirt), and the girls are hoots. And they're in bed at 7:15, so I get a couple of hours to myself.
I also get to drive through one of the worst 'hoods in the cities to get there -- North Minneapolis.
Keep the doors locked and the gas tank filled!

Since: Oct 12

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#90759 Sep 4, 2013
Toj wrote:
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Keep the doors locked and the gas tank filled!
Remember how scary that original movie was... When A Stranger Calls?......"Have you checked the children?"....and, "Jill....the calls are coming from inside the house".....Still scary....lol....remakes are almost never as good....

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#90760 Sep 4, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Remember how scary that original movie was... When A Stranger Calls?......"Have you checked the children?"....and, "Jill....the calls are coming from inside the house".....Still scary....lol....remakes are almost never as good....
I rarely watch scary movies. It's not b/c they scare me. They don't. They usually fail b/c I know it's pretend.

BUT...

When I sleep my imagination takes over and I get creepy nightmares. I also don't read scary books for the same reason. Damn imagination!

Since: Oct 12

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#90761 Sep 4, 2013
That is a shame, as getting scared is almost as good as almost wetting your pants laughing....talk about adrenalin...lol...

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