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Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90579 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I did not mean to imply that fast food workers should be paid $19/hour. I did imply that the people *who actually do the work to sell the product that makes the company a sh!tload of money* should get a bigger piece of the pie.
I call that fair and equitable distribution of wealth.
While I see your point, the fact remains that hitting a button on a register is simply not worth, say $10-$15 an hour. If they want to make $15 an hour, they need to put time and effort in. Make personal sacrifices. Go to school and get an education. Sacrifice some "fun" and get to a place where they are trained to a job that is worth $15. Unskilled jobs are just that. They are not meant to be careers. They are supposed to be stepping stones to something else. I worked crappy jobs and went to school BECAUSE I wanted a skilled job that paid more. And, again, I have a friend that's a librarian that can barely make $15 am hour and she has a master's degree to pay off. Why should someone without a HS diploma make the same, just because it seems "fair". That's not so fair to people like my friend. If it's fair that everyone make about the same, it would only be fair, then, for them to help pay off the loans of the people that bothered to make an effort. That would help distribute things more evenly. Sorry, I know that's probably not exactly what you are syaing. I just get how when I read about people wanting more and more without making any extra effort to earn it.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90580 Aug 30, 2013
*buy "paying off the loans" I mean "paying off the STUDENT loans"

Since: Aug 08

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#90581 Aug 30, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
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Honestly, fast food prices are riduculous for what you get. We RARELY get fast food and, if we do, it's usually Chick Fil A. We did go to Wendy's the other day (it was a SUnday - no CFA) and I spent about $12 for a value meal and a kids meal. I could go to the Chinese buffet and get some decent food with fruits and veggies, desserts and all for about $16 for both of us. I can go to Publix and get 2 HUGE fresh sandwiches, 2 mac salads and 2 drinks for about $13-$14. I see no "value" in fast food. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't go if prices went up!!! Barely worth it as it is!!!
I think a lot of folks feel the same.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#90582 Aug 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Sub too long didn't read. I figure you'll just be a dismissive dick again.
You don't need to tell me what you read or didn't read. While you figure I'm just being a dismissive d1ck, by doing so you confirm you are an ignorant b1tch.

“Just laughing”

Since: Mar 11

Erte, Le Soleil

#90583 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I did not mean to imply that fast food workers should be paid $19/hour. I did imply that the people *who actually do the work to sell the product that makes the company a sh!tload of money* should get a bigger piece of the pie.
I call that fair and equitable distribution of wealth.
The way I see it, the one who is doing the work to sell the product is the business owner who keeps a viable business running with all the responsibility that comes along with that. Think about all the hard work, risk and effort that go into running a successful business, from hiring decent employees to keeping the establishment in a condition to pass inspections, working payroll and all other business related ecnomic issues, being on call sometimes 24 hours a day, and constantly watching the back door because of those pilferers who believe they deserve a piece of the pie with little to no ouput.

Many of us have worked our asses off, with many personal sacrifices, to get where we are. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that someone working in a job that requires no education or training should expect to receive an "equitable portion" of the profits, just because they want it.

I want to be a millionaire, but until I do what it takes to get there, I don't deserve for it to just be handed to me.

“Just laughing”

Since: Mar 11

Erte, Le Soleil

#90584 Aug 30, 2013
IXSatanXI wrote:
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Satan is all for gay marriage.
As long as both chics are hot.
Babe, you have a one track mind! ;-)

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90585 Aug 30, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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The way I see it, the one who is doing the work to sell the product is the business owner who keeps a viable business running with all the responsibility that comes along with that. Think about all the hard work, risk and effort that go into running a successful business, from hiring decent employees to keeping the establishment in a condition to pass inspections, working payroll and all other business related ecnomic issues, being on call sometimes 24 hours a day, and constantly watching the back door because of those pilferers who believe they deserve a piece of the pie with little to no ouput.
Many of us have worked our asses off, with many personal sacrifices, to get where we are. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that someone working in a job that requires no education or training should expect to receive an "equitable portion" of the profits, just because they want it.
I want to be a millionaire, but until I do what it takes to get there, I don't deserve for it to just be handed to me.
Unless you win the lotto. Then that's be ok!:D

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#90586 Aug 30, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> oh wait, was that speech suppoded to come from the dad? There was no "we" will here you out cause mom did not want to work anything out with dad. She flat out said he needs to go to court if he wants more time whereas he voiced that he wanted to wofk things out between them.
The way she presented herself, I'd not be surprised if she would be happy never letting him visit dad.
I was talking how things SHOULD go. And the mother SHOULD work it out with him and not just "see him in court". That's just stupid. I think they both are handling it badly. No one gets a pass from me in this situation except maybe the kid. He's being willful, trying insert his opinion and independence of decisions (somewhat) but that's what a kid is suppose to do at his age.

(sigh) But so many times things don't go as they should.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90587 Aug 30, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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The way I see it, the one who is doing the work to sell the product is the business owner who keeps a viable business running with all the responsibility that comes along with that. Think about all the hard work, risk and effort that go into running a successful business, from hiring decent employees to keeping the establishment in a condition to pass inspections, working payroll and all other business related ecnomic issues, being on call sometimes 24 hours a day, and constantly watching the back door because of those pilferers who believe they deserve a piece of the pie with little to no ouput.
Many of us have worked our asses off, with many personal sacrifices, to get where we are. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that someone working in a job that requires no education or training should expect to receive an "equitable portion" of the profits, just because they want it.
I want to be a millionaire, but until I do what it takes to get there, I don't deserve for it to just be handed to me.
The owner would have squat if there were no workers.

“Just laughing”

Since: Mar 11

Erte, Le Soleil

#90588 Aug 30, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
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Unless you win the lotto. Then that's be ok!:D
Yeah, but I have to buy a ticket, and I don't want to waste my money on those odds! It's a quandary! lol.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#90589 Aug 30, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Lets scale it back a little. Lets say I open a quickie mart. I made the investment and did all the hard work of getting this business off the ground. But I don't have an unlimited supply of time. I can't sleep behind the cash register. Obviously I need to hire one or 2 people to wirk in my store. Should their pay be based on what kind of money I'm bringing in, ie: a piece of the pie? Or should it be based on the value of the service they provide?
I wish more people took your approach when there's a disagreement. Eh, me included. We could learn from how you patiently point out things without degrading someone. I appreciate that.

Since: Jan 10

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#90590 Aug 30, 2013
Toj wrote:
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I was talking how things SHOULD go. And the mother SHOULD work it out with him and not just "see him in court". That's just stupid. I think they both are handling it badly. No one gets a pass from me in this situation except maybe the kid. He's being willful, trying insert his opinion and independence of decisions (somewhat) but that's what a kid is suppose to do at his age.
(sigh) But so many times things don't go as they should.
If more parents would just ask us non parents what to do, your problems would be over! ; )

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90591 Aug 30, 2013
Toj wrote:
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I wish more people took your approach when there's a disagreement. Eh, me included. We could learn from how you patiently point out things without degrading someone. I appreciate that.
I'm awesome like that.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90592 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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The owner would have squat if there were no workers.
the unskilled workers are a lot easier to find snd replace than the owner. Without him, there would be no business.

What do you use to determine how much someone's services are worth? Is the button pusher worth as much as the cpa? Withou him, there might not be any business. Does the button pusher deserve more money if the place is doing well? Profit sharing? If the place goes bsnkrupt, they gonna chip in some cash to pay off creditors or share in the owner's loss?

Higher risk = higher reward. The owners deserve any high reward they get. I can't say the same for the unskilled labor

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90593 Aug 30, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Lets scale it back a little. Lets say I open a quickie mart. I made the investment and did all the hard work of getting this business off the ground. But I don't have an unlimited supply of time. I can't sleep behind the cash register. Obviously I need to hire one or 2 people to wirk in my store. Should their pay be based on what kind of money I'm bringing in, ie: a piece of the pie? Or should it be based on the value of the service they provide?
This is where personal values come into the picture, imo. These 2 or 3 employees have probably also worked hard, yanno because they want the job/$$$, and it is up to the owner to decide if they should be rewarded for that past effort, since it resulted in the success of the business or continue to pay them just for the service they provide. <mimishrug> I don't have that answer for people.

I heard this yesterday on the radio.
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/29/216720753/seatt...

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90594 Aug 30, 2013
Everyone gets paid what they are worth.

If you feel you are underpaid, demand a raise. If you don't get it, your employer disagrees with your assessment of your worth. Go find someone who will pay you what you want. If you can't find someone to pay you that, then you are not worth what you thought.

Financially speaking, you are worth what you can get someone to agree to pay you.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#90595 Aug 30, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Everyone gets paid what they are worth.
If you feel you are underpaid, demand a raise. If you don't get it, your employer disagrees with your assessment of your worth. Go find someone who will pay you what you want. If you can't find someone to pay you that, then you are not worth what you thought.
Financially speaking, you are worth what you can get someone to agree to pay you.
Not only that, but it's not like you actually get to keep all this money you earn. If you get paid more, you pay more in taxes.

I just got a bonus this past month for an idea of mine and the government took about 42% of my bonus.

I come up with an idea, with my own f'ing brain and society is entitled to 42% of any profit I derive from it. That's fair. Really? No, that's not fair ... that's liberal social justice for you.
A Noted Observer

Palatine, IL

#90596 Aug 30, 2013
Let's say you are Nike. You could make the shoes all by yourself because you are a hard-working entrepreneur and you really are that good but, you have investors and stockholders that essentially, you work for. You owe these hard-working paper pushers a living and, the best living possible to boot.

So, do you open factories in America where a brutal, dictatorial regime forces job creators to pay a minimum wage and even taxes (YIKES!), or do you honor your investors by making your sneakers in some SE Asian 3rd world hell hole where people who complain just don't eat?

We get those lucrative Nike jobs back here in this country when we give up this American exceptionalism that, if you read the fine print, doesn't include YOU anyways. All we need to do is eliminate the minimum and get teatards to convince their fellow Americans that it's a *good* idea.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90597 Aug 30, 2013

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Brooklyn, NY

#90598 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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The owner would have squat if there were no workers.
The workers would have squat if it wasn't for the owner.

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