“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#90535 Aug 29, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Wow, whiel I"m all for harsh penalties for people who text while drive then get involved in a crash, NJ wants to go after the person who SENT the text to the driver?
http://www.twincities.com/breakingnews/ci_239...
They were talking about this on the radio when I was on my way home. One caller said something rather interesting. While he agreed this proposal was ridiculous, 20 years ago, no one thought about going after the bartender who served a guy drinks who later ended up in a crash. 20 years ago, no one thought about going after the tobacco companies because smokers were getting cancer.

This is just another sign of the changing times. Not to get political, but it's the liberal mantra again: No one is responsible for their own behavior, there's always someone to blame.

So while this sounds ridiculous at the onset, I wouldn't be surprised if there was eventual legislation. Texting someone who happens to be driving, can make YOU liable for any damages.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90539 Aug 29, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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YEs, that's exactly the problem ... you are guessing ... shooting from the hip ... stabbing in the dark. That's precisely the problem ... you aren't informed and have no clue what you are talking about. It's called a knee jerk ... ask the Chinese how that worked out when Mao did that?
Case in point, most fast food restaurants are franchises ... they aren't owned by the head corporation, but rather individuals. Therefore there are no dividends or shareholders. Rather there are individuals who shelled out a million dollars of their own money to buy a franchise that they run as an owner ... to make on average 150k a year.
McDonald's is privately owned?

Yeah, just checked and it's not. But I'm not prepared to argue with you about this. I don't feel like taking all the abuse.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90540 Aug 29, 2013
Natasfonos wrote:
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That's stupid. The receiver has every opportunity to ignore the text.
WTF is wrong with America where no one can accept responsibility for their own actions?
This has nothing to do with accepting responsibilities for your own actions. Its not like the driver tried to blame the sender of the message. He didn't file the lawsuit. The family of the victim did. This is a case of the family of the victim taking aim at anyone involved in any way in the death of their loved one.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#90541 Aug 29, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I worked with a guy who was a girls' volleyball coach. He told me that junior and high school girls behaved in a way to elicit a response from him, and some were VERY provocative, Including removing clothing or trying to initiate conversations about sex to the degree that he had a strict rule: Never be alone in a room with any of the girls. Ever. And the entire gymnasium was included in that "room" rule.
And he said there was one consistency among them: The most poorly behaving girls did not have still-married parents. He saw their behavior as a result of not having a loving, involved dad in their lives to show them how men should treat women and how women should behave toward men.
I concur. See it daily...the correlation is very strong.
Also find my honors kids have 2 parent homes moreso than my regular kids...

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#90542 Aug 29, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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When I was dating someone in grad school, he was able to get onto the school's health insurance program.
It varies by school. There is a national clearing house that offer a master policy and each college gets to choose the plan it wants to subscribe to for the students. The kids pay the premium though. She ws on it for a while as an undergrad and it really sucked. Other schools may offer different plans. The Obamacare exchanges will likley have a big impact here concerning availability and pricing of coverage.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#90543 Aug 29, 2013
Toj wrote:
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And the other side is this grown adult has no character and you do. They've got to start having training, then, if it's so difficult for some people to handle and emphasize the importance of setting boundaries with the students.
I don't think there is anything a 14 year old could do or say that would lead me to think it's okay to have sex with that 14 year old.
I don't disagree, and I think I was pretty clear about that in my OP.
And there IS training (ethics) they get in college and as a new teacher, but these are humans and humans are evil and full of misguided judgement, and they are in every profession.
But if TEACHER is in the headline, it's more scandalous.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#90544 Aug 29, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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They were talking about this on the radio when I was on my way home. One caller said something rather interesting. While he agreed this proposal was ridiculous, 20 years ago, no one thought about going after the bartender who served a guy drinks who later ended up in a crash. 20 years ago, no one thought about going after the tobacco companies because smokers were getting cancer.
This is just another sign of the changing times. Not to get political, but it's the liberal mantra again: No one is responsible for their own behavior, there's always someone to blame.
So while this sounds ridiculous at the onset, I wouldn't be surprised if there was eventual legislation. Texting someone who happens to be driving, can make YOU liable for any damages.
Your radio call in person was badly misinformed.
There has been a no-fault Dram Shop action in Illinois since 1934. If you get drunk and hit my car, I can sue you. I can sue the bar that sold you the alcohol and its employees under the Dram Shop act.

The actions against the tobacco companies go back to the early 1980's, possibly earlier.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#90545 Aug 29, 2013
If I go to school, get a business degree, work hard, save my money, make enough of myself for the bank to take a risk on me and loan me a truck load of money to start a franchise,*I* am the one taking all the risk. When business is bad, I am the one stressing over paying the bills, and generating more sales, and luring in customers. Not the unskilled dude I hired to flip burgers. Not the people that can't read thus making it necessary for me to get cash registers with pictures. Those people clock in, do what I pay them to do(hopefully) and clock out. They have no skin in the game. If I go out of business, I lose big. They don't. So sorry if I don't feel compelled to share a substantial amount of my profit with the guy who presses the button that looks like a filet o fish. I didn't take on all this risk and o all this work to provide them with a better life. I did it to provide me and my family a better life. I hired them to do the grunt work. Jobs that require little skill and little training. If I need an accountant, I will certainly pay more because the job the accountant does is worth more. I will pay more for legal counsel, marketing people. People that bring valuable knowledge and skill. People that can do things I can't.

The guy scooping up the fries? Sorry, the service you provide is not worth that much if I can get any high school kid in the country to do it with no special training.

If I have to bump all the low wage workers wage by nearly 50%, you think *I'm* gonna pay myself less? Hell no. Prices will go up. Rising prices not good for business.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#90546 Aug 29, 2013
squishymama wrote:
<quoted text>McDonald's is privately owned?

Yeah, just checked and it's not. But I'm not prepared to argue with you about this. I don't feel like taking all the abuse.
I did not say McDonalds is privately owned ... I said most (not all, but most of them ... 90% of them) McDonalds locations are franchises ... meaning an individual pays McDonalds Corporation a franchise fee and a percentage of their sales, for the right to open up their own McDonalds restaurant that they operate, themselves. These individuals hire the employees or hire a manager who hires the employees. When it comes to what these individual owners decide to pay their employees, McDonalds Corporation has no say or involvement.

I actually checked too and the start up costs for someone who wishes to start on mcdonalds restaurant is between about 1 million to over 2 million, with an average net operating profit of 150k. I don't think that is greedy considering all the money they must front to start a business, not to mention having the responsibility of being the owner and all that comes with that.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#90547 Aug 29, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
If I go to school, get a business degree, work hard, save my money, make enough of myself for the bank to take a risk on me and loan me a truck load of money to start a franchise,*I* am the one taking all the risk. When business is bad, I am the one stressing over paying the bills, and generating more sales, and luring in customers. Not the unskilled dude I hired to flip burgers. Not the people that can't read thus making it necessary for me to get cash registers with pictures. Those people clock in, do what I pay them to do(hopefully) and clock out. They have no skin in the game. If I go out of business, I lose big. They don't. So sorry if I don't feel compelled to share a substantial amount of my profit with the guy who presses the button that looks like a filet o fish. I didn't take on all this risk and o all this work to provide them with a better life. I did it to provide me and my family a better life. I hired them to do the grunt work. Jobs that require little skill and little training. If I need an accountant, I will certainly pay more because the job the accountant does is worth more. I will pay more for legal counsel, marketing people. People that bring valuable knowledge and skill. People that can do things I can't.

The guy scooping up the fries? Sorry, the service you provide is not worth that much if I can get any high school kid in the country to do it with no special training.

If I have to bump all the low wage workers wage by nearly 50%, you think *I'm* gonna pay myself less? Hell no. Prices will go up. Rising prices not good for business.
Well said.

The liberals on here will say you are a greedy SOB for wanting to make 150k a year after your 1M to 2M start up investment, despite all the risk you take and work you yourself have to do to run the business, tho.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#90548 Aug 29, 2013
Natasfonos wrote:
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McDonalds was sued and the claim was that their portion sizes were making people fat so they stopped offering the Supersize option.
It was the portion size, not the fatass shoveling the food down their gullet.
America has gone fcuking insane.
..In much of our new world of social engineering and political correctness, taking actual responsibility for anything, is to be avoided......

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#90549 Aug 29, 2013
Crunchy Bacon wrote:
<quoted text>OK now thats not helping either. You make the franchisees look pretty dumb for spending so much to make so little. Step up bruh or get to stepping!
No, it means they aren't really the greedy SOBs you think they are. The fast good market is too competitive for them to be greedy.

Not only do they have to compete against other fast food restaurants, but regular restaurants. I already drop at least 25-30 to buy my family dinner at a mcdonalds ... We can eat at some sit down restaurants for 60-65 and have a beer. Rather than eat at mcdonalds twice a month, I'd already rather eat at a sit down restaurant once a month, as it is. If they raise prices more, I'm even less likely to eat at one with my family.

Whereas lunch and breakfast during the week may be about getting food fast, most folks aren't so concerned about eating fast for dinner too.

I don't make decisions on where we eat for dinner based on what the workers make ... I make them based on what place me and my family enjoy best and our budget for dinning out.

“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#90550 Aug 29, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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Your radio call in person was badly misinformed.
There has been a no-fault Dram Shop action in Illinois since 1934. If you get drunk and hit my car, I can sue you. I can sue the bar that sold you the alcohol and its employees under the Dram Shop act.
The actions against the tobacco companies go back to the early 1980's, possibly earlier.
Absolutely, Dram Shop Act goes back to about the mid 1800's.. Most states adopted one form or another of it as time went on. Remember Richard Speck? The bar where he was drinking before he murdered those nurses got into legal trouble.

“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#90551 Aug 29, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text> Also, the average McDonalds franchise makes around 150k in profit after taxes and all expenses:
http://www.burgerbusiness.com/...
I don't think that is a ridiculous sum given the cost of a franchise and the responsibility of being an owner.
Maybe, but most big franchises, McD,KFC, etc. in big cities are part of a group that owns multiples of them, so total profits can be quite high. Yes, the owners have to pay staff, etc. but they finance their operations just like any mid to large size corporations do.
Maybe in small towns one is owned by one person.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#90552 Aug 29, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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Your radio call in person was badly misinformed.
There has been a no-fault Dram Shop action in Illinois since 1934. If you get drunk and hit my car, I can sue you. I can sue the bar that sold you the alcohol and its employees under the Dram Shop act.
The actions against the tobacco companies go back to the early 1980's, possibly earlier.
That wasn't the point. The point was, liability in a cell phone catastrophe can be extended to any and all parties involved. Including the cell phone company... and anyone responsible for the driver to take his eyes off the road and answer your call/text/update/friend request/hooker/whatever...

Some people always warn about a slippery slope... and others refuse to listen.

Now we're in free-fall.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#90553 Aug 29, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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McDonald's is privately owned?
Who do you think owns, operates, and runs your local McDonald's? An entrepreneur like you or me who took a chance and spent two million dollars opening a franchise... Or robots built from the McDonald's Corp robot assembly line?

Do you even know the people you're supposed to hate? Or why?

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90554 Aug 29, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Who do you think owns, operates, and runs your local McDonald's? An entrepreneur like you or me who took a chance and spent two million dollars opening a franchise... Or robots built from the McDonald's Corp robot assembly line?
Do you even know the people you're supposed to hate? Or why?
Try and keep up. I was responding to Sub and his statement about franchises; McD Corporate is a publicly own company and therefore pays dividends.

And you're the only one spewing hate. I happen to like having a choice in food that is consistent no matter where you are. I just think that companies could do a better job distributing the profits so that even unskilled folk can earn more than a subsistence wage.

I know I know, stoopid liberal. Or should that be communist?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#90555 Aug 29, 2013
squishymama wrote:
I just think that companies could do a better job distributing the profits so that even unskilled folk can earn more than a subsistence wage.
I know I know, stoopid liberal. Or should that be communist?
Commie, liberal, what's the difference?

Low wage jobs are meant for high-schoolers, college students, maybe illegal immigrants, job on the side for someone who lost his overtime, retirees who need something to do.... Not so Queen Latifa who's a crack addict and high school dropout can raise her five kids.

How much you willing to pay for McNuggets for your kids? Five dollars? Twenty? Fifty?

There's a reason we have subsistence wage jobs for unskilled workers.

“Non mollare mai”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#90556 Aug 29, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I just think that companies could do a better job distributing the profits so that even unskilled folk can earn more than a subsistence wage.
Another term for that is redistribution of wealth, and it's my opinion that that breeds nothing but mediocrity. I just did a rough calculation and teachers in my state make around an average of $19/hour. We all know the levels of higher education that are requirements for anyone hoping to work in this field. In my opinion, nobody working as a clerk in a fast food restaurant should be making that close to a teacher's salary.
Crunchy Bacon

La Grange, IL

#90557 Aug 29, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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Another term for that is redistribution of wealth, and it's my opinion that that breeds nothing but mediocrity. I just did a rough calculation and teachers in my state make around an average of $19/hour. We all know the levels of higher education that are requirements for anyone hoping to work in this field. In my opinion, nobody working as a clerk in a fast food restaurant should be making that close to a teacher's salary.
Technically, redistribution of wealth is taking money out of the pockets of the job creators and blowing it on food stamps and other programs for lazy people. But I like where you are going with teachers making too much money too. They are babysitters and 19 bucks an hour is way to much.

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