Since: Jan 10

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#90562 Aug 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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YEs, that's exactly the problem ... you are guessing ... shooting from the hip ... stabbing in the dark. That's precisely the problem ... you aren't informed and have no clue what you are talking about. It's called a knee jerk ... ask the Chinese how that worked out when Mao did that?
Case in point, most fast food restaurants are franchises ... they aren't owned by the head corporation, but rather individuals. Therefore there are no dividends or shareholders. Rather there are individuals who shelled out a million dollars of their own money to buy a franchise that they run as an owner ... to make on average 150k a year.
Stop being such a smug know it all a hole. She has a different opinion than you do. I SHARE her opinion on this.

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#90563 Aug 30, 2013
Also, double fast food wages and prices do go up but to enough for people to complain. Big Macs would go up by less than a dollar. Big whoop.

Since: Oct 12

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#90564 Aug 30, 2013
I like Whoppers from Burger King, way more than the tasteless Big Mac.....but i digress, NBC News last night used the fate of a black single mother, already admitting that she receives government assistance to sell the need for raised wages...Not sure that is how you sell it to the majority of Americans....

“Not a real reg”

Since: Jan 13

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#90566 Aug 30, 2013

“Non mollare mai”

Since: Mar 11

Land of Enchantment

#90567 Aug 30, 2013
Generic Cialis wrote:
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I hope you like yer bacon xtra soggy and limp ma'am
The Ferret is pretending to be crunchy..
I know Ferrerman, and I don't believe that's him.

Good morning.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90568 Aug 30, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
<quoted distributionother term for that is redistributiteacherswealth, and it's my opinion that that breeds nothing but mediocrity. I just did a rough calculation and teachers in my state make around an average of $19/hour. We all know the ldistributionevels of higher education that are requirements for anyone hoping to work in this field. In my opinion, nobody working as a clerk in a fast food restaurant should be making that close to a teacher's salary.
I did not mean to imply that fast food workers should be paid $19/hour. I did imply that the people *who actually do the work to sell the product that makes the company a sh!tload of money* should get a bigger piece of the pie.

I call that fair and equitable distribution of wealth.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#90569 Aug 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Stop being such a smug know it all a hole. She has a different opinion than you do. I SHARE her opinion on this.
I appreciate the alternate points of view that Sub brings up in all our discussions, I really do. He's made me rethink some things and learn some things, but I just wish he wouldn't be such a d!ck about it.

But I don't expect him to change. Instead I follow his advice and don't let what people say in an anonymous chat forum get to me.

Since: Aug 08

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#90570 Aug 30, 2013
dahgts wrote:
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Maybe, but most big franchises, McD,KFC, etc. in big cities are part of a group that owns multiples of them, so total profits can be quite high. Yes, the owners have to pay staff, etc. but they finance their operations just like any mid to large size corporations do.
Maybe in small towns one is owned by one person.
I don't see how that matters. If I have 5 mcdonalds that are worth 10 million dollars ... I want a certain return on that 10 million dollars, otherwise I may as well just sell. Also, how many of these groups are owned by one person, as opposed to a family, i.e. where a guy starts a business builds it up and leaves 4 or 5 mcdonalds it to his 3 or 4 kids. I know, I know, in commie Squisy and Angela land, the government should confiscate his businesses after his death and his family should get nothing.

“Call me Walter”

Since: Nov 10

Dyersburg, TN

#90571 Aug 30, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
Wow, politics, religion, and gay marriage all on one page. I love this thread!
Satan is all for gay marriage.

As long as both chics are hot.
Ewww

Houston, TX

#90572 Aug 30, 2013
Chitown is a gaytown

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90573 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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McDonald's is privately owned?
Yeah, just checked and it's not. But I'm not prepared to argue with you about this. I don't feel like taking all the abuse.
No, squich. You're right, it's not. But the franchises are. So my McD's on 4th St is owned bu Joe Blow who pays fees to the McD corporation to use their name/product/concept. Just like the local gas station is owned and run by some guy around the corner, not by BP or Shell itself.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90574 Aug 30, 2013
*squish - bad typing!

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#90575 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I did not mean to imply that fast food workers should be paid $19/hour. I did imply that the people *who actually do the work to sell the product that makes the company a sh!tload of money* should get a bigger piece of the pie.
I call that fair and equitable distribution of wealth.
Lets scale it back a little. Lets say I open a quickie mart. I made the investment and did all the hard work of getting this business off the ground. But I don't have an unlimited supply of time. I can't sleep behind the cash register. Obviously I need to hire one or 2 people to wirk in my store. Should their pay be based on what kind of money I'm bringing in, ie: a piece of the pie? Or should it be based on the value of the service they provide?

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#90576 Aug 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Stop being such a smug know it all a hole. She has a different opinion than you do. I SHARE her opinion on this.
Angela, you behave 10X worse when edog disagrees with you on many issues. You'd also be patting me on the back if I agreed with you on this issue and took the same tone with edog when discussing it.
I am not surprised that you agree with Squishy. I agree with you about certain things, but you, like her, often times shoot from the hip and have uninformed opinions when it comes to businesses and economics. Squishy suggested that just because the CEO makes a lot of money, it means the company can afford to pay its workers more. I used facts to show that’s not true … even if you paid the CEO no compensation, it would only translate into a half a penny hourly rate increase for every worker … and you’d likely be out of a CEO.
When I pointed this out, Squishy came back and said, well, it would still be a good thing because it would make the lower level employees feel better about themselves, which I liken to a misery loves company argument. I’m sorry, I don’t believe it is very smart to suggest that we need to make more folks less happy, just so that those who are already unhappy feel better about themselves.

She also said corporate shareholders should do with smaller dividends and I presume less share price increases, but she completely ignores the fact that many of our retirements are funded by stocks (I’m sure she will just come back and say, she would be perfectly okay with her pension fund receiving less of a return on its investments, because the government can always just raise taxes to make up the difference).

She also completely ignores that IPOs and corporate stocks are precisely how many companies expand and create jobs. Pot Belly, which is a sandwich shop, is going to have an IPO, soon, why, because they will use all the money gained from selling shares to open up more restaurants. Investors, including perhaps your 401k, my 401k, and Squishy’s pension fund, are only going to pay a certain amount per share based on how much money they can earn back on their investment. Lower folks returns on their investments and they will pay less for such stock, which means you have less money to expand, which means there are less jobs.

These things are really basic economics, but they are so foreign to the two of you. It doesn’t make me a d’ that this is completely foreign to you two, and I have to explain it to you both.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90577 Aug 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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No, it means they aren't really the greedy SOBs you think they are. The fast good market is too competitive for them to be greedy.
Not only do they have to compete against other fast food restaurants, but regular restaurants. I already drop at least 25-30 to buy my family dinner at a mcdonalds ... We can eat at some sit down restaurants for 60-65 and have a beer. Rather than eat at mcdonalds twice a month, I'd already rather eat at a sit down restaurant once a month, as it is. If they raise prices more, I'm even less likely to eat at one with my family.
Whereas lunch and breakfast during the week may be about getting food fast, most folks aren't so concerned about eating fast for dinner too.
I don't make decisions on where we eat for dinner based on what the workers make ... I make them based on what place me and my family enjoy best and our budget for dinning out.
Honestly, fast food prices are riduculous for what you get. We RARELY get fast food and, if we do, it's usually Chick Fil A. We did go to Wendy's the other day (it was a SUnday - no CFA) and I spent about $12 for a value meal and a kids meal. I could go to the Chinese buffet and get some decent food with fruits and veggies, desserts and all for about $16 for both of us. I can go to Publix and get 2 HUGE fresh sandwiches, 2 mac salads and 2 drinks for about $13-$14. I see no "value" in fast food. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't go if prices went up!!! Barely worth it as it is!!!

Since: Jan 10

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#90578 Aug 30, 2013
Sub too long didn't read. I figure you'll just be a dismissive dick again.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90579 Aug 30, 2013
squishymama wrote:
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I did not mean to imply that fast food workers should be paid $19/hour. I did imply that the people *who actually do the work to sell the product that makes the company a sh!tload of money* should get a bigger piece of the pie.
I call that fair and equitable distribution of wealth.
While I see your point, the fact remains that hitting a button on a register is simply not worth, say $10-$15 an hour. If they want to make $15 an hour, they need to put time and effort in. Make personal sacrifices. Go to school and get an education. Sacrifice some "fun" and get to a place where they are trained to a job that is worth $15. Unskilled jobs are just that. They are not meant to be careers. They are supposed to be stepping stones to something else. I worked crappy jobs and went to school BECAUSE I wanted a skilled job that paid more. And, again, I have a friend that's a librarian that can barely make $15 am hour and she has a master's degree to pay off. Why should someone without a HS diploma make the same, just because it seems "fair". That's not so fair to people like my friend. If it's fair that everyone make about the same, it would only be fair, then, for them to help pay off the loans of the people that bothered to make an effort. That would help distribute things more evenly. Sorry, I know that's probably not exactly what you are syaing. I just get how when I read about people wanting more and more without making any extra effort to earn it.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90580 Aug 30, 2013
*buy "paying off the loans" I mean "paying off the STUDENT loans"

Since: Aug 08

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#90581 Aug 30, 2013
Stina2 wrote:
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Honestly, fast food prices are riduculous for what you get. We RARELY get fast food and, if we do, it's usually Chick Fil A. We did go to Wendy's the other day (it was a SUnday - no CFA) and I spent about $12 for a value meal and a kids meal. I could go to the Chinese buffet and get some decent food with fruits and veggies, desserts and all for about $16 for both of us. I can go to Publix and get 2 HUGE fresh sandwiches, 2 mac salads and 2 drinks for about $13-$14. I see no "value" in fast food. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't go if prices went up!!! Barely worth it as it is!!!
I think a lot of folks feel the same.

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#90582 Aug 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Sub too long didn't read. I figure you'll just be a dismissive dick again.
You don't need to tell me what you read or didn't read. While you figure I'm just being a dismissive d1ck, by doing so you confirm you are an ignorant b1tch.

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