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#90406 Aug 27, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
Whoever is judging cat negatively, should stop. She's a sweetie. I can vouch for that.
Thank you Sublime, I appreciate that. I didn't even notice the judgeits. I rarely look at them :)

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Since: Mar 09

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#90407 Aug 27, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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This is a general question. Was Jesus literate?In what language?
Let's say we agree that there was in fact an historical Jesus (the one from the bible that Christians call the son of god...there were lots of people with that name and to forestall the mutt I want to be clear to whom I refer) because there is some debate and not much archaeological evidence.

The bible (NT to be clear) says that he was educated in the Torah. It says that he read the Hebrew texts in the bible. He is said to have sat in the temple in Jerusalem debating the Torah with the priests. If all of this is true, then yes he would have been literate otherwise he could not have read the Torah or bible.

Which language is another issue. If he read Hebrew texts then he would have been literate in Hebrew which was lashon ha-kodesh (sacred language of the Torah), but Judea was a cosmopolitan place and Aramaic was a main language, ergo one would think he would be at least conversant in Aramaic, probably fluent.

Also, Latin and Greek were very well represented in the region along with a number of less famous dialects. It's highly unlikely that a person of that time would have been literate in even one language much less many of them so if I had to choose, my best hypothesis would be Hebrew.

Of course if he was "god-in-human-form". ..he would be literate in all languages, so there's that.

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#90408 Aug 27, 2013
-CatCiao- wrote:
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For me, my religious and faith experiences are deeply personal, and I don't need anyone to understand them, nor do I feel the need to make others believe what I believe. I rarely talk about it to be honest.
Nice to meet you! I am really worn out lately by people trying to push a (any) religiou agenda on me so it's really nice to meet someone who simply believes and keeps it personal. That's the thing about it for me; faith/lack of faith is personal and I so wish people on all sides would keep it that way. Unfortunately, they usually don't and they are always trying to "save" me which is why I usually keep things private too unless there's some reason to tell.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#90409 Aug 28, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
like the mutt, you try to force someone else to believe because you say so... Mutt would try to force it on me because
When and how have I ever "forced" you to believe because I said so?

Never.

You're pulling sht out of your @zz. Again.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#90410 Aug 28, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
It's the same flawed logic, asking me to prove the nonexistence of the absurd and submitting that since I can't go back in time and unproven something that is absurd it is reasonable to conclude that the absurd exists. It would be like you submitting than men 2000 years ago knew how to construct Kevlar armor or build the space shuttle, and then when I can't go back in time and prove this, submitting that it's logical to conclude that they actually did know how to construct Kevlar armor and build the space shuttle, even though there is not one iota of proof to support such a ridiculous contention.

You obviously don't understand the point of Russell's teapot, then. The point is, if someone is going to suggest something absurd exists, like an invisible omnipresent being who controls everything that happens on the earth, the burden should be on them to show at the very least a modicum of proof that it exists. To adopt a logic that is contrary to this results in the the situation I proposed, where it suddenly becomes logical to believe there is a unicorn/dragon hybrid in the center of the earth, because after all, you can't prove that there is not!
There's that irony again.

“reign in blood”

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Braidwood, IL

#90411 Aug 28, 2013

Since: Jan 10

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#90412 Aug 28, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah....Newsroom is the best new show in years, this season should be even better, since we know who everyone is now....lol...If you get HBO, checkout, Boardwalk Empire....it's kinda unique, fascinating about bootlegging in the 20's....Steve Buscemi is a great actor, i think....
If Buscemi were a good-looking guy, I think his career would have been bigger. But I think he might have been less memorable. I love him as a character actor. He was great in "Fargo."

Since: Jan 10

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#90413 Aug 28, 2013
What day is it? What DAY is IT? Happy Hump Day!(I admit, I like the camel commercial.)

Tonight: Clean out my car and trunk (during summer softball season, it just becomes a huge dumping ground). We're taking it to the cabin with the boys tomorrow night.(My car's trunk is crazy huge.)

Thursday: Pretend to work all day, then go home and head to Nick's, then to the cabin. For Four days with 11 people I"m not related to.

Last night, our ump asked me to sign up to be an ump for Minneapolis parks and rec!

Since: Oct 12

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#90414 Aug 28, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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If Buscemi were a good-looking guy, I think his career would have been bigger. But I think he might have been less memorable. I love him as a character actor. He was great in "Fargo."
I'm a huge fan of great character actors....i was telling my wife about Henry Morgan, Colonel Potter from MASH....He was in so many movies, from the late 30's on....Imagine the great stories, he must have had.....Years ago, the late David Niven wrote two fantastic books on all the Hollywood history he was around....

“I looked, and behold,”

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#90415 Aug 28, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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There's that irony again.
There's you not understanding the definition of irony again.

Since: Jan 10

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#90416 Aug 28, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a huge fan of great character actors....i was telling my wife about Henry Morgan, Colonel Potter from MASH....He was in so many movies, from the late 30's on....Imagine the great stories, he must have had.....Years ago, the late David Niven wrote two fantastic books on all the Hollywood history he was around....
Do you remember Henry Morgan's first appearance on Mash? It wasn't as Col. Potter, it was as a visiting officer who was crazy and danced around the may pole.

Since: Oct 12

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#90417 Aug 28, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Do you remember Henry Morgan's first appearance on Mash? It wasn't as Col. Potter, it was as a visiting officer who was crazy and danced around the may pole.
Yeah, i loved that show....my dad's cousin Arden, fought in the original battle of, Pork Chop Hill....in Korea....BTW, Henry Morgan was on television's Dragnet for years.....

Since: Jan 10

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#90418 Aug 28, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah, i loved that show....my dad's cousin Arden, fought in the original battle of, Pork Chop Hill....in Korea....BTW, Henry Morgan was on television's Dragnet for years.....
I grew up on a steady diet of MASH -- Mondays were the best, b/c it was on at 6:30 and 10:30 with reruns, and the new episodes were on at 8. Three times in one night!

I saw Dragnet later as a young adult with TV Land on cable.

Since: Oct 12

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#90419 Aug 28, 2013
Maybe some might remember back when Thursday nite was huge....Mash, Barney Miller and Mary Tyler Moore shows.....also Bob Newhart, i think....a great nite....

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#90420 Aug 28, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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Let's say we agree that there was in fact an historical Jesus (the one from the bible that Christians call the son of god...there were lots of people with that name and to forestall the mutt I want to be clear to whom I refer) because there is some debate and not much archaeological evidence.
The bible (NT to be clear) says that he was educated in the Torah. It says that he read the Hebrew texts in the bible. He is said to have sat in the temple in Jerusalem debating the Torah with the priests. If all of this is true, then yes he would have been literate otherwise he could not have read the Torah or bible.

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I know that at one point he is called Reb( rabbi, meaning teacher) but it is not clear to me if he was schooled in the oral tradition or if he could actually read the scrolls. His first 30 years did not sound like the life of a scholar.

Have you read Reza Aslan's book

Since: Jan 10

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#90421 Aug 28, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Maybe some might remember back when Thursday nite was huge....Mash, Barney Miller and Mary Tyler Moore shows.....also Bob Newhart, i think....a great nite....
I watched Barney Miller, but I was too young to "get" the humor, but I knew I should like it, so I watched it.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Melrose Park, IL

#90422 Aug 28, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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There's you not understanding the definition of irony again.
Try again, buddy. On second thought, don't bother. Really.

Toj

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Since: Jul 12

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#90423 Aug 28, 2013
Youtube had a year in review for 1975 with the old TV shows, some clips and lists, songs, what was in the news, prices, etc. for 1975. I'm sure there's stuff for other years as well.

If you're ever bored, you can go looking on youtube.

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#90424 Aug 28, 2013
Toj wrote:
Youtube had a year in review for 1975 with the old TV shows, some clips and lists, songs, what was in the news, prices, etc. for 1975. I'm sure there's stuff for other years as well.
If you're ever bored, you can go looking on youtube.
1. That would make me feel old!:)
2. I think it would become a HUGE time suck, because I was *raised* on television!!

Toj

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#90425 Aug 28, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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1. That would make me feel old!:)
2. I think it would become a HUGE time suck, because I was *raised* on television!!
Yes, it probably would. I clicked off of it before I became too curious.

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