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“I Am Mine”

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#90109
Aug 23, 2013
 
Just discovered a Yahoo web tv serie, The Flip Side. Funny as hell.

http://screen.yahoo.com/flip-side-high-school...

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Aug 24, 2013
 
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Aug 24, 2013
 

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The rest of the world shouldn't have to worry about killing someone for doing normal things.
Perhaps the cafeteria should wipe tables down better.
This will be a lifelong challenge for this girl; best to teach skills rather than expect the world to accomodate you, as it won't.

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Aug 24, 2013
 

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cheluzal wrote:
The rest of the world shouldn't have to worry about killing someone for doing normal things.
Perhaps the cafeteria should wipe tables down better.
This will be a lifelong challenge for this girl; best to teach skills rather than expect the world to accomodate you, as it won't.
No. People are not responsible for themselves. Everyone must conform to the lowest common denominator. If even one kid can't eat a peanut, NO ONE should be allowed to.

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Aug 24, 2013
 

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Sub lingual desensitization, 2013 article.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/an-a...

Severe food allergy desensitization, March 2013 NY Times article

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/magazine/ca...

This on is more labor intensive than the sub-lingual drops.

The point is that for the people with truly severe food allergies there are strategies and treatments available.

I am sympathetic to Squishy's situation; my youngest has environmentally triggered (mild) asthma, but I tend to fall more on Cheluzal's side of things. The world shouldn't have to accommodate everyone's needs.

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#90114
Aug 24, 2013
 
Any history buffs( or older peeps) wanna help me out?

I read about a movie theater that won't play Oprah's new movie cause Jane Fonda is on it and they still hate her from back on the 60's. I understand she was outspoken against the vietnam war, but this pervasive grudge against her indicates she was more than just anti-war. What exactly did she do that sets her apart from any other celebrity of the day? I really have no idea.

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Since: Mar 09

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#90115
Aug 24, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
Any history buffs( or older peeps) wanna help me out?
I read about a movie theater that won't play Oprah's new movie cause Jane Fonda is on it and they still hate her from back on the 60's. I understand she was outspoken against the vietnam war, but this pervasive grudge against her indicates she was more than just anti-war. What exactly did she do that sets her apart from any other celebrity of the day? I really have no idea.
She traveled to Hanoi during the war. Sat on an anti-aircraft tank and used her celebrity for propaganda FOR the NVA and against US aggression. Vets HATE her.

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#90116
Aug 24, 2013
 
There's more. That's just the cliff notes.http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Jane_Fonda#.22Hanoi_Jane. 22_controversy

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#90117
Aug 24, 2013
 
Tonka, google Hanoi Jane...you will get more info than you will ever want to know.

I briefly flirted with using this as the subject for my research paper in that class I took about the war. My teacher, a Vietnam vet had VERY definite opinions and I figured I would be safer (my grade would) with a different topic so I went with My Lai. Even so he wasn't happy with my take on it (against the massacre...duh) but still gave me an A...not sure I would have passed if I'd done Jane Fonda.

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#90118
Aug 24, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
Any history buffs( or older peeps) wanna help me out?
I read about a movie theater that won't play Oprah's new movie cause Jane Fonda is on it and they still hate her from back on the 60's. I understand she was outspoken against the vietnam war, but this pervasive grudge against her indicates she was more than just anti-war. What exactly did she do that sets her apart from any other celebrity of the day? I really have no idea.
She stood with the Viet Kong and denounced America's actions. Much like the traitors Sean Penn and Dennis Rodman.

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#90119
Aug 24, 2013
 
Mimi Seattle wrote:
There's more. That's just the cliff notes.http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Jane_Fonda#.22Hanoi_Jane. 22_controversy
Thanks.

I'd love to have been a fly on he wall to see this.

In 2005, Michael A. Smith, a U.S. Navy veteran, was arrested for disorderly conduct in Kansas City, Missouri, after he spat chewing tobacco in Fonda's face during a book-signing event for her autobiography, My Life So Far. He told reporters that he "consider[ed] it a debt of honor" and further stated "she spit in our faces for 37 years. It was absolutely worth it. There are a lot of veterans who would love to do what I did.

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#90120
Aug 24, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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She stood with the Viet Kong and denounced America's actions. Much like the traitors Sean Penn and Dennis Rodman.
Sean Penn and Dennis Rodman are not vilified to the extent that Fonda is. Additionally, lots of people denounced our governments actions over the past decade and I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who inspires as much hatred as Jane Fonda.
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Aug 24, 2013
 

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PEllen wrote:
Sub lingual desensitization, 2013 article.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/an-a...
Severe food allergy desensitization, March 2013 NY Times article
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/magazine/ca...
This on is more labor intensive than the sub-lingual drops.
The point is that for the people with truly severe food allergies there are strategies and treatments available.
I am sympathetic to Squishy's situation; my youngest has environmentally triggered (mild) asthma, but I tend to fall more on Cheluzal's side of things. The world shouldn't have to accommodate everyone's needs.
There are 300 million people in this country. Three million kids have these allergies. If they die tomorrow they won't be missed. My kids don't have these problems- maybe you guessed that? Not MY problem that other peoples kids do.

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#90122
Aug 24, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Sean Penn and Dennis Rodman are not vilified to the extent that Fonda is. Additionally, lots of people denounced our governments actions over the past decade and I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who inspires as much hatred as Jane Fonda.
Definitely. I think that her traveling to Hanoi was what did it.

LOTS and LOTS of people (especially by '72) were against what had been happening. The thing is, most people don't seem to get the fact that Hanoi was using her and she was too young, niece, and idealistic to realize that she was their (willing) dupe.

I think she really believed that she was doing a noble thing, but being an actress, not a poli sci/history major, she had no freaking clue about the US history with Vietnam (it started in '45) or politics, or governments, or anything else. She was a show business, Beverly Hills/Swiss boarding schools educated, kid that came of age at that time and became part of the movement that was happening for people in her age cohort. FTR the US *supported* Ho Chi Minh in the beginning.

It wasn't until France gave in (after Dien Bien Phu) and the area was so destabilized that the powers that be felt we needed to step in to keep the USSR at bay. It was most definitely a proxy war because of the geopolitical end economic value of Indochina.

Oh hell...looks like I was paying attention to that class after all. <sigh>

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Aug 24, 2013
 
*niece=naive

dam you autocorrect!!!

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#90124
Aug 24, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
Any history buffs( or older peeps) wanna help me out?
I read about a movie theater that won't play Oprah's new movie cause Jane Fonda is on it and they still hate her from back on the 60's. I understand she was outspoken against the vietnam war, but this pervasive grudge against her indicates she was more than just anti-war. What exactly did she do that sets her apart from any other celebrity of the day? I really have no idea.
She actively supported the North Vietnamese. She was called Hanoi Jane as I recall.

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#90125
Aug 24, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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She stood with the Viet Kong and denounced America's actions. Much like the traitors Sean Penn and Dennis Rodman.
Dennis Rodman?

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#90126
Aug 24, 2013
 
I should have read Mimi's posts first.

The enmity left from Vietnam still lingers in things like this.

It is my opinion that Bill Clinton's problems stemmed in part because he was seen as a hippie draft dodger who got out of serving using 4S ( student deferments)

JFK has a lot to answer for. He got us in there.

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PEllen wrote:
It is my opinion that Bill Clinton's problems stemmed in part because he was seen as a hippie draft dodger who got out of serving using 4S ( student deferments)
The Right would have simply found some othr reason to attack him if they didn't have that. If he was a Republican, the right would not have said a word about that.

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#90128
Aug 24, 2013
 
I recall that time of the Vietnam War, pretty well...as one of you know's, i currently have a stepbrother sentenced to a wheelchair, due to Agent Orange exposure, during the war....another that served, took his own life....I lost many friends, including friends i knew, from 3rd grade to highschool.....Jane Fonda, no doubt handled her feelings about the war horribly...But, to many others that served and to those lost...it was truly an avoidable apocalypse....I knew many very good Americans, veterans included...that hated that war and that should never be confused with, not supporting our troops.......

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