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#85922
May 21, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
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Defiition of criminally stupid: being in a town that has a recent history of major tornados and building a school which does not have an underground safe room. The Nat'l Weather Service was warning yesterday that teh only safe place would be underground.
I don't care if it was financial , political, building code cronyism, whatever- there was no underground space to shelter in place in that school, and kids are dead.
If it is not technically criminal, someone made a decision not to dig a hole and that person's name and picture should be plastered all over whatever is left of Moore OK.
Especially when they are talking about the Siren going off for 16-20 minutes prior.....all you need it a secure underground shelter....not that expensive, especially knowing the history.....

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#85923
May 21, 2013
 
RACE wrote:
The building was 57 years old, how many generations of kids that became parents who sent their children went thru that school? Why didnt they complain?
Obviously one was not required, and nobody, and I mean NOBODY said anything to the contrary.
plenty of blame for everyone.
I am not trying to sound heartless, but I think its unfair to try and point a finger at one person or group.
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That's a fair way to look at it. And I bet their next school they build has a bunker.

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#85924
May 21, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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That's a fair way to look at it. And I bet their next school they build has a bunker.
Bet it doesn't....

Maybe if it was OKC, but from what Shawna tells me, the folks in Moore (average) aren't the sharpest pencils in the drawer.

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#85925
May 21, 2013
 
Toj wrote:
Interseting article about shelters in Oklahoma and the reason there isn't more:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive...
Indeed interesting.
Take away points: its expensive and very difficult to build a basement shelter under a house or school structure in Oklahoma given soil and bedrock qualities.

Public shelters are becoming more prevalent but are still rare ... and expensive.

What the article does not say is that digging a hole in the ground that is not underneath a structure sounds cheap, feasible and effective. Old fashioned root cellar anyone?
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May 21, 2013
 

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You have a reading comprehension problem that can be as bad as edog's. The article neither says nor implies any such thing.
PEllen wrote:
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What the article does not say is that digging a hole in the ground that is not underneath a structure sounds cheap, feasible and effective. Old fashioned root cellar anyone?

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#85927
May 21, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
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Indeed interesting.
Take away points: its expensive and very difficult to build a basement shelter under a house or school structure in Oklahoma given soil and bedrock qualities.
Public shelters are becoming more prevalent but are still rare ... and expensive.
What the article does not say is that digging a hole in the ground that is not underneath a structure sounds cheap, feasible and effective. Old fashioned root cellar anyone?
Seriously -- that's what I was thinking. Hole in the ground needing no electricity, water -- only air circulation and perhaps a box to hold emergency supplies like a weather radio, ready-to-eat yucky meals, water, etc.

It does sound like, though, to build any sound structure on clay isn't cheap.

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#85928
May 21, 2013
 
Frye wrote:
You have a reading comprehension problem that can be as bad as edog's. The article neither says nor implies any such thing.
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Huh? That's what she was saying -- the article DID NOT SAY. Am I misunderstanding you, are you purposely being abrasive or is your reading comprehension a problem?

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#85929
May 21, 2013
 
Frye wrote:
The article neither says nor implies any such thing.
Apparently your reading comprehension is just as bad. She SAID the article didn't say such a thing.

And PE, I don't know what's stuck in your craw. Now apparently all schools should be equipped with fallout shelters in the event of tornado, nuclear war, school shootings, zombie apocalypse.... What happens if they throw everyone in these underground shelters and an earthquake hits? Or a sinkhole opens? For fuksake, my point is, you can't really do much if a school is in the path of an F5 tornado. Maybe we should just build all schools underground and enforced with lead and steal?
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May 21, 2013
 
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#85931
May 21, 2013
 
Frye wrote:
You have a reading comprehension problem that can be as bad as edog's. The article neither says nor implies any such thing.
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Too many double negatives in my comment- it was easy to mis-construe.

My point is that there are simple, old fashioned, easily built remedies which had not been used and that therefore kids died.

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May 21, 2013
 

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your incorrect in your wording The proper word is "steel" not Steal.
Your a fine one to get on my case.
edogxxx wrote:
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A Maybe we should just build all schools underground and enforced with lead and steal?

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May 21, 2013
 

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May 22, 2013
 

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RACE wrote:
your incorrect in your wording The proper word is "steel" not Steal.
Your a fine one to get on my case.
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If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......

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#85936
May 22, 2013
 
I heard on the radio this morning that winds surpassed 200 mph, the tornado was over a mile wide, and the path of destruction was 17 miles long. Incredible.

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#85937
May 22, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
http://consumerist.com/2013/05 /17/makers-and-stars-of-porn-b eing-turned-away-by-some-banks /?utm_source=feedly
I think the banks are being stupid. It's not like someone who watches porn knows who the bank is for that business.

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May 22, 2013
 

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Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......
I understand wanting to say, but I think it'd be easier to start over and get going on my life if I left and started elsewhere.

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#85939
May 22, 2013
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......
I'm sure a lot of people will stay for the community of people that is there and not b/c of the location. Personally, if it was me I'd go, but then again I'd never move there to begin with. If you have kids, who have friends and your best friends live there I'm sure it would be very difficult to leave especially after you lose all tangible possessions.

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#85940
May 22, 2013
 
For year's i have watched every other day's weather forecast and they say chance of tornadoes for N. Texas and Oklahoma.....I would go, and likely far away.....Wonder if anyone knows of a location, in America...where no natural disasters ever happen........?

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Toj wrote:
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I'm sure a lot of people will stay for the community of people that is there and not b/c of the location. Personally, if it was me I'd go, but then again I'd never move there to begin with. If you have kids, who have friends and your best friends live there I'm sure it would be very difficult to leave especially after you lose all tangible possessions.
I understand that as well, but a long time after Katrina, there were people in NO still living in Fema housing, still expecting someone to drop a nice home/apartment in their laps, when they could have been working toward that themselves.

I'd rather move and just get my life back together as soon as possible, even if it's elsewhere.

However, I'm not married with kids, so I think those things would change how someone feels aboutmoving.

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