Since: Oct 12

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#85935 May 22, 2013
RACE wrote:
your incorrect in your wording The proper word is "steel" not Steal.
Your a fine one to get on my case.
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If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......

Since: Jan 10

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#85936 May 22, 2013
I heard on the radio this morning that winds surpassed 200 mph, the tornado was over a mile wide, and the path of destruction was 17 miles long. Incredible.

Since: Jan 10

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#85937 May 22, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
http://consumerist.com/2013/05 /17/makers-and-stars-of-porn-b eing-turned-away-by-some-banks /?utm_source=feedly
I think the banks are being stupid. It's not like someone who watches porn knows who the bank is for that business.

Since: Jan 10

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#85938 May 22, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......
I understand wanting to say, but I think it'd be easier to start over and get going on my life if I left and started elsewhere.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#85939 May 22, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......
I'm sure a lot of people will stay for the community of people that is there and not b/c of the location. Personally, if it was me I'd go, but then again I'd never move there to begin with. If you have kids, who have friends and your best friends live there I'm sure it would be very difficult to leave especially after you lose all tangible possessions.

Since: Oct 12

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#85940 May 22, 2013
For year's i have watched every other day's weather forecast and they say chance of tornadoes for N. Texas and Oklahoma.....I would go, and likely far away.....Wonder if anyone knows of a location, in America...where no natural disasters ever happen........?

Since: Jan 10

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#85941 May 22, 2013
Toj wrote:
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I'm sure a lot of people will stay for the community of people that is there and not b/c of the location. Personally, if it was me I'd go, but then again I'd never move there to begin with. If you have kids, who have friends and your best friends live there I'm sure it would be very difficult to leave especially after you lose all tangible possessions.
I understand that as well, but a long time after Katrina, there were people in NO still living in Fema housing, still expecting someone to drop a nice home/apartment in their laps, when they could have been working toward that themselves.

I'd rather move and just get my life back together as soon as possible, even if it's elsewhere.

However, I'm not married with kids, so I think those things would change how someone feels aboutmoving.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#85942 May 22, 2013
Apparently my outrage is shared in OK. Their Governor was on teh radio this mornng being fairly defensive about "older schools" and saying that new ones have safe rooms.

So, apparently it is insensitive to bring up that the OK Congressional delegation opposed Sandy relief so close to the tornado needs, hmmm.

Frigging hypocrites.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#85943 May 22, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I'd rather move and just get my life back together as soon as possible, even if it's elsewhere.
However, I'm not married with kids, so I think those things would change how someone feels aboutmoving.
I'd think you'd want to get kids back in to a 'normal' lifestyle as quickly as possible, too. But some people are tied to location for whatever reason.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#85944 May 22, 2013
Tough call. I had lived in the same area of NY until I was 30+ and it was kinda surreal moving to FL, but I did it.

However I know peeps who will live in that part of NY until the day they die. The thought of leaving is simply outside of their grasp. and I think that a lot of the peeps in OK are probably that way. They will stay because leaving is just not an option.
If they stay, I hope they rebuild with tornado's in mind.
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived in Moore, Oklahoma......Time to rebuild or leave?......

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#85945 May 22, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I understand that as well, but a long time after Katrina, there were people in NO still living in Fema housing, still expecting someone to drop a nice home/apartment in their laps, when they could have been working toward that themselves.
I'd rather move and just get my life back together as soon as possible, even if it's elsewhere.
However, I'm not married with kids, so I think those things would change how someone feels aboutmoving.
Yes, I agree. It's the people with families I think would have a difficult time. I can't imagine making important decisions like where you are going to live when you've went through such a disaster.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#85946 May 22, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Apparently my outrage is shared in OK. Their Governor was on teh radio this mornng being fairly defensive about "older schools" and saying that new ones have safe rooms.
So, apparently it is insensitive to bring up that the OK Congressional delegation opposed Sandy relief so close to the tornado needs, hmmm.
Frigging hypocrites.
I agree with you on the whole responsibility thing. I could even understand if they said -- look, we should have. We were looking at costs b/c of our economic situation but looking back that was not wise and we need to correct that. I don't think I'd hang 'em for not doing it but they need to recognize mistakes and correct them.

“Checks and Balances”

Since: Apr 13

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#85947 May 22, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Apparently my outrage is shared in OK. Their Governor was on teh radio this mornng being fairly defensive about "older schools" and saying that new ones have safe rooms.

So, apparently it is insensitive to bring up that the OK Congressional delegation opposed Sandy relief so close to the tornado needs, hmmm.

Frigging hypocrites.
I understand you being upset about any loss of life.

For the older schools, though, what programs should have been cut to build the safe rooms (and it wouldn't have just been building a room, since I'm sure other infrastructure would have to be updated)? How many teachers should have been fired to cover those costs? Do we want our children educated, I mean with a well-rounded education that will serve as a foundation for the future of this country, or do we just want them babysat?

There are limited funds in this country and the federal government can't subsidize everything because people don't want to pay taxes to support those subsidies. An EF5 tornado cut a path of destruction 17 miles long and 2 miles wide, destroying 2 schools in the process and only 7 school children died. I think it is unrealistic to think that there would be no loss of life in that situation.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#85948 May 22, 2013
What exactly is a safe room? How many does it hold?

In FL, homes are built with a safe room, usually the interior bathroom. Basically its a reinforced room (walls,ceiling) making it like a cage. Problem is, there aint no way its gonna withstand a tornado. NOTHING withstands a tornado except a concrete building with no windows.

So, if the safe rooms in OK are the same as what we have here, I strongly suggest that those parents start complaining that those things are useless in a tornado and demand that underground shelters be built. Hell, I would have one myself, but if you dig down 4ft on my property, you hit water.


PEllen wrote:
Apparently my outrage is shared in OK. Their Governor was on teh radio this mornng being fairly defensive about "older schools" and saying that new ones have safe rooms.
So, apparently it is insensitive to bring up that the OK Congressional delegation opposed Sandy relief so close to the tornado needs, hmmm.
Frigging hypocrites.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#85949 May 22, 2013
RACE wrote:
your incorrect in your wording The proper word is "steel" not Steal.
Your a fine one to get on my case.
<quoted text>
That the best you can do, son?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#85950 May 22, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Apparently my outrage is shared in OK. Their Governor was on teh radio this mornng being fairly defensive about "older schools" and saying that new ones have safe rooms.
So, apparently it is insensitive to bring up that the OK Congressional delegation opposed Sandy relief so close to the tornado needs, hmmm.
Frigging hypocrites.
And schools near nuclear plants should be lined with lead, schools in potential flood zones should have a bunch of snorkels sticking up out of the roof. Schools by....

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#85951 May 22, 2013
Rant unrelated to tornadoes, safe rooms, or the government:

Freaking IE automatically updated to 10, which totally messed up my morning. I had to ask IT to downgrade it back to 8 and then I had to remember what my custom security settings were for certain websites for work, THEN I had to uninstall and reinstall Java TWICE. I think I'm finally back to normal but what an annoying way to start the day.

Okay, that's better.

Since: Oct 12

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#85952 May 22, 2013
RACE wrote:
Tough call. I had lived in the same area of NY until I was 30+ and it was kinda surreal moving to FL, but I did it.
However I know peeps who will live in that part of NY until the day they die. The thought of leaving is simply outside of their grasp. and I think that a lot of the peeps in OK are probably that way. They will stay because leaving is just not an option.
If they stay, I hope they rebuild with tornado's in mind.
<quoted text>
If they rebuild, i would start with a full, deep basement or buried shelter...before i would even think about the rest of the structure.....and code out, mobile home parks....

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#85953 May 22, 2013
It was late, and I didnt have a lot to work with.
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
That the best you can do, son?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#85954 May 22, 2013
Here PEllen, start your outrage machine back up.

An EF-5 is as bad as it gets," said Joe D'Aleo, co-chief forecaster for WeatherBell Analytics. "It's equivalent to a Category 5 hurricane. It means winds were more than 200 miles per hour, and it means you have to be underground, because there will be nothing left above ground."

Safe rooms are a joke.

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