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Apr 5, 2013
 
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
<quoted text>He was interviewed on ESPN the day the video broke and he was adamant that this was a one-time thing, that they had taken it very seriously and handed down a very appropriate punishment and that he and the university had done all they should have.
Yup, even though the video was a compilation of practices from a 2 yer period.

This is having major repercussions for the school. Highpoint Solutions, which sponsors the football stadium, and another major donor are supposedly reconsidering whether they want to continue their support now that Pernetti is gone. He has a lot of support from people who actually knew him.

Sounds like he had no real authority over the department, though. If you know something is the right thing to do, you follow your instinct. When you are tasked with guiding and protecting student athletes, you do It to the best of your abilities. Either he wasn't a very effective AD or his priorities were out of whack.

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#83632
Apr 5, 2013
 
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
And I certainly agree with Angela and I think many people would.
You can believe anything you want. I disagree. "Many" would? I say most wouldn't. Most only care if their team wins or loses.
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If I was the Yankees and I didn't win I'd be embarrassed.
So you say, as a non Yankee fine, but I don't buy for a second that you would be embarrassed if the <whoever your team is> had the highest payroll and won the World Series.

When my teams win championships, the payroll is not a consideration in how much joy/pride I feel. I think this is most people's approach.

Worrying about the payroll is how losers justify not winning. "We would have won if we had more money to spend".
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Apr 5, 2013
 
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Apr 5, 2013
 
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#83635
Apr 5, 2013
 
Ain't no youth here.

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#83636
Apr 5, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Do you buy his story?

Jess in NJ wrote, "I just love how no one wants to speak out against what is obviously wrong to most of the country until they have already lost their jobs.
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Not defending him, but don't you think that's human nature? If you are informed that making a certain decision can put your job in jeopardy, but making different one would not, don't you think most people would, lean toward self preservation before worrying about others?

If him not firing Rice was due to the possible bad press of having these events exposed in public, then I can't cut him any slack. But when the lawyers are telling you not to do something, you need to pay attention. Not to say this was no big deal, but this was no Penn State. These were not little kids getting molested. These were grown ass men.
They are students and his first responsibility should be to protect them. If he disagreed with the lawyers whose main job is to look out for the university's money and avoid lawsuits, then he should have pushed harder with the Board of Governors.

Most people's instincts may be to worry about self preservation first, but most people don't choose jobs in education. If I entrust my child to your care, then you'd better damn well look out for him instead of covering your own ass.

These were not NBA players. They are college students.

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#83637
Apr 5, 2013
 
Hi Stool,
seems were both wrong, cant really count April since it only started, that means its only 49 months.

Difference is, I can admit I rushed and made a mistake (read i was wrong). You never will.
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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So in addition to your deficient logic and reasoning skills, your math ain't none too good neither.
Race's 28,213 posts in the 50 months since 2/09 = 564 posts/month.
Toj's 2,354 posts in the 9 months since 7/12 = 261 posts/month.
OOPS!!! I am sure that was just a convenient yet honest mistake on your part. 564 is fully double 261, so you're posting twice as often as her. Is that still "not a huge diff?" Dum dum.

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#83638
Apr 5, 2013
 
squishymama wrote:
Ain't no youth here.
:D No, we're all old farts.(At least we probably seem that way any "youths".)

“FD&S is no way to be.”

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#83639
Apr 5, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
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You can believe anything you want. I disagree. "Many" would? I say most wouldn't. Most only care if their team wins or loses.
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So you say, as a non Yankee fine, but I don't buy for a second that you would be embarrassed if the <whoever your team is> had the highest payroll and won the World Series.
When my teams win championships, the payroll is not a consideration in how much joy/pride I feel. I think this is most people's approach.
Worrying about the payroll is how losers justify not winning. "We would have won if we had more money to spend".
You don't have any more support for your "I think" than I do for mine, except I have common sense on my side. People routinely root for the underdog. Look at March Madness. People love the upsets. The entire country got wrapped up in a tiny school from Florida most had never heard of. As for my feelings about my team, you don't know squat. Who's my team? The Detroit Tigers. And two of my friends, Angie and Christina, talked about exactly this thing last year during the playoffs, about the Tigers going the way of the Yankees. They went out and signed big name free agents and now they're in the top 5 in payroll and it's not as satisfying. I'm actually rooting more for teams like Minnesota and Tampa Bay.

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Apr 5, 2013
 
Jess in NJ wrote:
They are students and his first responsibility should be to protect them. If he disagreed with the lawyers whose main job is to look out for the university's money and avoid lawsuits, then he should have pushed harder with the Board of Governors.
I think every employee's primary responsibility is to the person giving them a paycheck. As long as you are not being directed to break the law, your directives come from above. You're free to discuss issues with your boss when there is disagreement and try to sway him, but in the end, if your boss says do X, you do X.
Jess in NJ wrote:
Most people's instincts may be to worry about self preservation first, but most people don't choose jobs in education.
Do you really consider the job of athletic director to be "in education"? Sure he works for a school. but so does the janitor. He's overseeing the athletic department. Perhaps I don't know enough about the AD's day to day duties, but I would not consider him to be "in education".
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If I entrust my child to your care, then you'd better damn well look out for him instead of covering your own ass.
I don't consider college basketball players to be children. This statement would hold more water with me at lower levels of education.
Jess in NJ wrote:
These were not NBA players. They are college students.
You see that as a big difference. I don't.

Lebron James.
Kobe Bryant.
Kevin Garnett.
Dwight Howard.
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

High school, straight to the pros. Were they "children" when they joined the NBA?

And to be clear and so there are no mixed messages, I am not giving Mike Rice a pass. He deserves to be fired. He should never coach again unless Latrell Sprewell is on the team. Just saying that based on Pernetti's letter, I can see HIM having valid reasons not to fire Rice.

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#83641
Apr 5, 2013
 
RACE wrote:
Hi Stool,
seems were both wrong, cant really count April since it only started, that means its only 49 months.
Difference is, I can admit I rushed and made a mistake (read i was wrong). You never will.
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Nice try, dum dum. The fact is that April has started, and I counted it for both of you, so it's a difference without a distinction. Funny how you want to make a big deal out of whether or not one month is factored in, but when (even based on your incorrect calculations) the difference was 50%, you said it was not a big diff. Double standard much? and how convenient for you that you made your number much smaller than it actually was and her number bigger than it actually was. BOTH mistakes were made to the benefit of your erroneous position. What a coinkydink! Besides, there really is nothing to "admit." You might as well admit that water is wet.

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#83642
Apr 5, 2013
 
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
You don't have any more support for your "I think" than I do for mine
The end.

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#83643
Apr 5, 2013
 
I made a$20 bet with a friend that the Twins would not have a .500 season.

Go Twins! But they're gonna suck.

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Apr 5, 2013
 
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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You don't have any more support for your "I think" than I do for mine, except I have common sense on my side. People routinely root for the underdog. Look at March Madness. People love the upsets. The entire country got wrapped up in a tiny school from Florida most had never heard of. As for my feelings about my team, you don't know squat. Who's my team? The Detroit Tigers. And two of my friends, Angie and Christina, talked about exactly this thing last year during the playoffs, about the Tigers going the way of the Yankees. They went out and signed big name free agents and now they're in the top 5 in payroll and it's not as satisfying. I'm actually rooting more for teams like Minnesota and Tampa Bay.
No. Not the end. This is just too funny to leave un-addressed.

Do you really think you and your 2 friends Angie and Christina represent the typical sports fan? Do you really think the typical sports fan switches their allegiance so easily over something so trivial?

As for the underdog, people root for the underdog when they have no dog in the fight. Its a feel good story to keep them interested. Does not mean they would prefer their team to be the underdog. Most people want their team to be the 800 pound gorilla demolishing everything in sight.

Smell ya later. I'm outta here.

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#83645
Apr 5, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
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The end.
How convenient for you to ignore the proviso. No response to the underdog factor? Or do you deny that? No one roots for the underdog? No one appreciates a team doing more with less?

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#83646
Apr 5, 2013
 
What a long winded spew of stool. Oh, and you still cant admit your wrong, I dont care if you counted it for both or not, the month simply does not count at all. You were wrong, admit it and move on, I did.
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Nice try, dum dum. The fact is that April has started, and I counted it for both of you, so it's a difference without a distinction. Funny how you want to make a big deal out of whether or not one month is factored in, but when (even based on your incorrect calculations) the difference was 50%, you said it was not a big diff. Double standard much? and how convenient for you that you made your number much smaller than it actually was and her number bigger than it actually was. BOTH mistakes were made to the benefit of your erroneous position. What a coinkydink! Besides, there really is nothing to "admit." You might as well admit that water is wet.

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#83647
Apr 5, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
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<quoted text> I don't consider college basketball players to be children. This statement would hold more water with me at lower levels of education.
<quoted text> You see that as a big difference. I don't.
Lebron James.
Kobe Bryant.
Kevin Garnett.
Dwight Howard.
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
High school, straight to the pros. Were they "children" when they joined the NBA?
Really? No difference? Rutgers basketball players with zero NBA prospects as compared with athletes whose professinal-caliber potential was recognized when they were freshmen in high school, who had all kinds of people watching over them and watching out for them, who went into the NBA with advisors and agents and PR people, and you see no difference. Interesting. Do you really think that if any of them had gone to college, their coach would have even considered for one nanosecond kicking them or throwing a ball at their head or calling them a f'ing fa&&ot?

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#83648
Apr 5, 2013
 
RACE wrote:
What a long winded spew of stool. Oh, and you still cant admit your wrong, I dont care if you counted it for both or not, the month simply does not count at all. You were wrong, admit it and move on, I did.
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Don't tell me you were wrong, I already knew. And including April (it has started, ya know, and I don't know what date of the month you and Toj joined) makes ZERO difference in anything. Tell Toj you were wrong and apologize to her.

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#83649
Apr 5, 2013
 
for what?
Have a nice weekend stool.
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Don't tell me you were wrong, I already knew. And including April (it has started, ya know, and I don't know what date of the month you and Toj joined) makes ZERO difference in anything. Tell Toj you were wrong and apologize to her.

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#83650
Apr 5, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
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No. Not the end. This is just too funny to leave un-addressed.
Do you really think you and your 2 friends Angie and Christina represent the typical sports fan? Do you really think the typical sports fan switches their allegiance so easily over something so trivial?
As for the underdog, people root for the underdog when they have no dog in the fight. Its a feel good story to keep them interested. Does not mean they would prefer their team to be the underdog. Most people want their team to be the 800 pound gorilla demolishing everything in sight.
Smell ya later. I'm outta here.
Everyone loves the 800 lb. gorilla, eh? Then how come in poll after poll of the most hated teams, you see the same names: Yankees, Lakers, USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Cowboys.

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