Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

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#83652 Apr 5, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Don't tell me you were wrong, I already knew. And including April (it has started, ya know, and I don't know what date of the month you and Toj joined) makes ZERO difference in anything. Tell Toj you were wrong and apologize to her.
Thanks, Sam -- I appreciate the support but I am think I'll try hitting the "ignore" button on subject of who is posting how much, what type of job and the incessant childish insults.

They seem to me to be acting like little school boys vying for whatever attention they can get.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83653 Apr 5, 2013
I just asked if you had a job, your the one who created the drama about it. Simple yes or no would have ended the discussion yesterday, but noooo, you had to be flippant.
Toj wrote:
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Thanks, Sam -- I appreciate the support but I am think I'll try hitting the "ignore" button on subject of who is posting how much, what type of job and the incessant childish insults.
They seem to me to be acting like little school boys vying for whatever attention they can get.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83654 Apr 5, 2013
In that case you owe me about a thousand apologies.
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Just for being a dick in general.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83655 Apr 5, 2013
Wait, let me check my math.....
Yeah, a thousand is about right.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#83656 Apr 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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They are students and his first responsibility should be to protect them. If he disagreed with the lawyers whose main job is to look out for the university's money and avoid lawsuits, then he should have pushed harder with the Board of Governors.
Most people's instincts may be to worry about self preservation first, but most people don't choose jobs in education. If I entrust my child to your care, then you'd better damn well look out for him instead of covering your own ass.
These were not NBA players. They are college students.
That issue came up when I went to college in the late 60's. The obligation of the university to protect and discipline the students was called "in loco parentis", in place of the parents

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#83657 Apr 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I think every employee's primary responsibility is to the person giving them a paycheck. As long as you are not being directed to break the law, your directives come from above. You're free to discuss issues with your boss when there is disagreement and try to sway him, but in the end, if your boss says do X, you do X.

Jess in NJ wrote, " Most people's instincts may be to worry about self preservation first, but most people don't choose jobs in education."

Do you really consider the job of athletic director to be "in education"? Sure he works for a school. but so does the janitor. He's overseeing the athletic department. Perhaps I don't know enough about the AD's day to day duties, but I would not consider him to be "in education".

Jess in NJ wrote, " If I entrust my child to your care, then you'd better damn well look out for him instead of covering your own ass."

I don't consider college basketball players to be children. This statement would hold more water with me at lower levels of education.

Jess in NJ wrote, "These were not NBA players. They are college students."

You see that as a big difference. I don't.

Lebron James.
Kobe Bryant.
Kevin Garnett.
Dwight Howard.
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

High school, straight to the pros. Were they "children" when they joined the NBA?

And to be clear and so there are no mixed messages, I am not giving Mike Rice a pass. He deserves to be fired. He should never coach again unless Latrell Sprewell is on the team. Just saying that based on Pernetti's letter, I can see HIM having valid reasons not to fire Rice.
Yes, the Athletic Director at a University is in education. The athletes are not professionals, but student athletes. There is a reason that the NCAA has so many rules against boosters and non-University members getting too involved in influencing the student athletes (via gifts, etc). That's because these are still impressionable young men who are in a transitional stage in their lives. There are a few exceptions of people who have gone straight from high school to the NBA, but the ones with successful personal lives are the exceptions. The goal of the University should be to produce the most well-rounded students possible.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83658 Apr 5, 2013
Actually Stool, now that I think about it, you should probably apologize to everyone on the internet.

“Colorful Beyond Words”

Since: May 11

"Always On The Go "

#83659 Apr 5, 2013
Hey... Hatti here and .. I'm gonna weigh in on the time/post count because .. "I" have both you beat.:)

AND , I have a full time job ... AND I do paperwork for a side home job .. AND I chase after two Teenagers ... LOL !!

Have A great Weekend!!

“Colorful Beyond Words”

Since: May 11

"Always On The Go "

#83660 Apr 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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Yes, the Athletic Director at a University is in education. The athletes are not professionals, but student athletes. There is a reason that the NCAA has so many rules against boosters and non-University members getting too involved in influencing the student athletes (via gifts, etc). That's because these are still impressionable young men who are in a transitional stage in their lives. There are a few exceptions of people who have gone straight from high school to the NBA, but the ones with successful personal lives are the exceptions. The goal of the University should be to produce the most well-rounded students possible.
Agreed. Nice post!

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#83661 Apr 5, 2013
RACE wrote:
I just asked if you had a job, your the one who created the drama about it. Simple yes or no would have ended the discussion yesterday, but noooo, you had to be flippant.
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Asking if someone has a job sounds pugnacious and in your face. Asking if you are working has a differrnt connotation, more inquisitive and less aggressive.

Since: Jan 10

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#83662 Apr 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
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I think every employee's primary responsibility is to the person giving them a paycheck.
I think it depends. A teacher's primary responsibility is to hizzer students, not the principal/school board. A doctor's primary responsibility is to hizzer patients, not the hospital or clinic.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83663 Apr 5, 2013
You're right!
BUT! One question remains unanswered...
Are you Hot?
(hint, all inet women are hot)
Hatti_Hollerand wrote:
Hey... Hatti here and .. I'm gonna weigh in on the time/post count because .. "I" have both you beat.:)
AND , I have a full time job ... AND I do paperwork for a side home job .. AND I chase after two Teenagers ... LOL !!
Have A great Weekend!!

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83664 Apr 5, 2013
..pot meet kettle...
PEllen wrote:
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Asking if someone has a job sounds pugnacious and in your face. Asking if you are working has a differrnt connotation, more inquisitive and less aggressive.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#83665 Apr 5, 2013
Hatti_Hollerand wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed. Nice post!
Thanks! Always nice to have a new face around here :)

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#83666 Apr 5, 2013
RACE wrote:
..pot meet kettle...
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Nice to meet you, wanna spoon?

Pffft

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#83667 Apr 5, 2013
Oh sure. I go home sick from work and spend the entire afternoon sleeping, and THAT'S when you guys get interesting.
;)

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#83668 Apr 5, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Everyone loves the 800 lb. gorilla, eh? Then how come in poll after poll of the most hated teams, you see the same names: Yankees, Lakers, USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Cowboys.
Reading comprehension fail. Everyone wants THEIR team to be the 800 pound gorilla. No one hopes for their team to be the underdog. You think any fan of the Yankees, Lakers, USC, Cowboys, Duke has any envy for the Cubs, Clippers, Akron Zips, Detroit Lions, or FGCU?

How many fans of those teams would gladly trade fortunes with the Yankees, Lakers, USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Cowboys and become the 800 pound gorilla instead of being its meal or sitting hungry watching the gorilla devour another victim?

If a team wins without breaking the rules, any complaints about how they did it are sour grapes and jealousy.

Since: Jan 10

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#83669 Apr 5, 2013
I want my teams to win, but if they lose, I don't really care much. I mean, I don't get emotionally invested to the degree where five minutesa fter a big loss, I'm still upset about it.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#83670 Apr 5, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Really? No difference? Rutgers basketball players with zero NBA prospects as compared with athletes whose professinal-caliber potential was recognized when they were freshmen in high school, who had all kinds of people watching over them and watching out for them, who went into the NBA with advisors and agents and PR people, and you see no difference. Interesting. Do you really think that if any of them had gone to college, their coach would have even considered for one nanosecond kicking them or throwing a ball at their head or calling them a f'ing fa&&ot?
Sorry, did not know you were an NBA talent scout. She did not make any distinction based on talent. Just that they were not pros. Nowadays, by rule, they can't go straight to the NBA. So many of those players are one and done. But they now have to go to college. Based on Jess's statement, those players would be included in the group "college players". I stand by my statement.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#83671 Apr 5, 2013
Oh, just admit he's right, it doesnt have to be true, but is saves a lot on time that you could better spend doing something else than chatting with an idiot.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Reading comprehension fail. Everyone wants THEIR team to be the 800 pound gorilla. No one hopes for their team to be the underdog. You think any fan of the Yankees, Lakers, USC, Cowboys, Duke has any envy for the Cubs, Clippers, Akron Zips, Detroit Lions, or FGCU?
How many fans of those teams would gladly trade fortunes with the Yankees, Lakers, USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Cowboys and become the 800 pound gorilla instead of being its meal or sitting hungry watching the gorilla devour another victim?
If a team wins without breaking the rules, any complaints about how they did it are sour grapes and jealousy.

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