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“FD&S is no way to be.”

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#83323
Apr 1, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
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Death penalty cases have lots of automatic appeals. Holmes sounds like he could bring a pretty strong insanity defense.
I wonder if anyone has don a cost comparison of the amount neded to keep a healthy 25 year old in jail fr life as compared to teh costs of trial, appeal and frying him.
It looks like it costs about $70,000/year to keep someone in maximum security. It also looks like it costs about $1-2.5MM to prosecute a death penalty case. This one would likely be toward the upper end due to the insanity defense issues. Say $2MM. Mr. Holmes is 25. If he lives to 54 (a real question mark given the nature of his crime and the likely willigness of another inmate to be the guy who offed the Colorado killer, plus Mr. Holmes does not seem to be the kind of person who would be able to play nice with the other prisners), then it's break even.

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#83324
Apr 1, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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Yes. It's actually cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to execute them.
Completely incomplete answer. It depends on the length of their incarceration.

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Apr 1, 2013
 

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Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. multiply that 18 by all their associated costs, and it is really cheaper to off the 1st murderer
edogxxx wrote:
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Yes. It's actually cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to execute them.

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Since: Sep 09

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#83326
Apr 1, 2013
 
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.

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Since: May 09

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#83327
Apr 1, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Cool for you!(sez teh one who has less than no interest in going there)

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Since: May 09

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#83328
Apr 1, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
•Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.
•The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year.
What level was studied- a state? the US? Just wondering...

I mostly want this case done for the families so that they aren't subjected to teh details at appeal after appeal.

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#83329
Apr 1, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?

That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?

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Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Very cool!

The most exciting place I'll ever get sent to for my work is our farm in Hanover Park.

So have fun for me too.
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#83331
Apr 1, 2013
 
RACE wrote:
Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. <quoted text>
Where did that come from? I am genuinely interested in reading up on that.

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#83332
Apr 1, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Awesome.

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Apr 1, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?
That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?
That's about as far as i've gotten... oh, wait, no... i went to Peoria and Normal. As nice as they are, wehn driving down with a complete neurotic head case, having some free time, dinner, then a client meeting the next morning and the drive back, when they decided taht tehre was no longer budget for me to tag along (not more than $150 in expenses for me), i wasn't taht sad to be left behind.

had i "known" mathilda at the time, my opinion of these road trips might have changed.

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#83334
Apr 1, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?
That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?
Yeah, on the weekends there will be chances for excursions. He's not super excited, I don't think. But my SIL will be around then, off and on (camp job again), so he'll only have to deal with one of us, heh.

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#83335
Apr 1, 2013
 
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Completely incomplete answer. It depends on the length of their incarceration.
I don't think so. The longer you keep someone in prison, the cost goes up, sure, but it still doesn't even compare to the cost of executing them.

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RACE wrote:
Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. multiply that 18 by all their associated costs, and it is really cheaper to off the 1st murderer
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I've never heard of such a thing.

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#83337
Apr 1, 2013
 
Aisle Sitter wrote:
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Cool for you!(sez teh one who has less than no interest in going there)
Same here. I have no interest in going to crowded, smelly India especially in the summer.

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#83338
Apr 1, 2013
 
Ha, tried to type "Yolo" and auto correct on my phone tried to correct it to "tool". Texting J about this:

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Apr 1, 2013
 
Aisle Sitter wrote:
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What level was studied- a state? the US? Just wondering...
I mostly want this case done for the families so that they aren't subjected to teh details at appeal after appeal.
Oh, sorry I didn't cite the source or give you more info! I was sorta in a rush to get outta work.

Those figures are based on the state of California only.

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Apr 1, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
VERY cool! Who else is going from your job? Does your husband get to join you for a mini trip?

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Apr 1, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
Ha, tried to type "Yolo" and auto correct on my phone tried to correct it to "tool". Texting J about this:
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2013/04/01/...
Sounds like he was with his uncle in the truck when they both died? Drug OD?

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Apr 1, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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I don't think so. The longer you keep someone in prison, the cost goes up, sure, but it still doesn't even compare to the cost of executing them.
I know you don't like to let things like information and facts get in the way of what you say, but look at post #83323 for some basic math.

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