“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#83320 Apr 1, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
He did it. I'm not in favor of spending money on him either. At the same time, I don't think any State should put to death anyone as that is legalized murder. I do think rotting in jail for the rest of your life is a tougher sentence than a humane death.
Bleeding heart. He wasn't too concerned about the humane treatment of his victims.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#83321 Apr 1, 2013
I think he's so mentally ill, all bets are off.

Meanwhile, I'm FB "Friends" with Caleb, the comedian who is still in the hospital and recovering (head wounds/brain injury). His wife was 8+ months pregnant when he was shot.

So I won't worry too much about the crazed shooter, because the innocent victims will suffer the rest of their lives.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#83322 Apr 1, 2013
•Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.

•The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#83323 Apr 1, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>
Death penalty cases have lots of automatic appeals. Holmes sounds like he could bring a pretty strong insanity defense.
I wonder if anyone has don a cost comparison of the amount neded to keep a healthy 25 year old in jail fr life as compared to teh costs of trial, appeal and frying him.
It looks like it costs about $70,000/year to keep someone in maximum security. It also looks like it costs about $1-2.5MM to prosecute a death penalty case. This one would likely be toward the upper end due to the insanity defense issues. Say $2MM. Mr. Holmes is 25. If he lives to 54 (a real question mark given the nature of his crime and the likely willigness of another inmate to be the guy who offed the Colorado killer, plus Mr. Holmes does not seem to be the kind of person who would be able to play nice with the other prisners), then it's break even.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#83324 Apr 1, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. It's actually cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to execute them.
Completely incomplete answer. It depends on the length of their incarceration.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#83325 Apr 1, 2013
Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. multiply that 18 by all their associated costs, and it is really cheaper to off the 1st murderer
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. It's actually cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to execute them.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#83326 Apr 1, 2013
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#83327 Apr 1, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Cool for you!(sez teh one who has less than no interest in going there)

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#83328 Apr 1, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
•Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.
•The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year.
What level was studied- a state? the US? Just wondering...

I mostly want this case done for the families so that they aren't subjected to teh details at appeal after appeal.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#83329 Apr 1, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?

That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#83330 Apr 1, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Very cool!

The most exciting place I'll ever get sent to for my work is our farm in Hanover Park.

So have fun for me too.
:D

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#83331 Apr 1, 2013
RACE wrote:
Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. <quoted text>
Where did that come from? I am genuinely interested in reading up on that.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#83332 Apr 1, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
OMG, OMG, OMG...It's been confirmed. I leave for Chennai, India on June 7. Excited would be an understatement.
Awesome.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#83333 Apr 1, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?
That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?
That's about as far as i've gotten... oh, wait, no... i went to Peoria and Normal. As nice as they are, wehn driving down with a complete neurotic head case, having some free time, dinner, then a client meeting the next morning and the drive back, when they decided taht tehre was no longer budget for me to tag along (not more than $150 in expenses for me), i wasn't taht sad to be left behind.

had i "known" mathilda at the time, my opinion of these road trips might have changed.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#83334 Apr 1, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Will you be able to tack on any perosnal tourist time while you ar there?
That sounds really neat. If I am lucky my job lets me go to Quincy. I am envious. What does J have to say?
Yeah, on the weekends there will be chances for excursions. He's not super excited, I don't think. But my SIL will be around then, off and on (camp job again), so he'll only have to deal with one of us, heh.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#83335 Apr 1, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Completely incomplete answer. It depends on the length of their incarceration.
I don't think so. The longer you keep someone in prison, the cost goes up, sure, but it still doesn't even compare to the cost of executing them.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#83336 Apr 1, 2013
RACE wrote:
Each person put to death on death row prevents another 18 murders from happening. multiply that 18 by all their associated costs, and it is really cheaper to off the 1st murderer
<quoted text>
I've never heard of such a thing.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#83337 Apr 1, 2013
Aisle Sitter wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool for you!(sez teh one who has less than no interest in going there)
Same here. I have no interest in going to crowded, smelly India especially in the summer.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#83338 Apr 1, 2013
Ha, tried to type "Yolo" and auto correct on my phone tried to correct it to "tool". Texting J about this:

http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2013/04/01/...

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#83339 Apr 1, 2013
Aisle Sitter wrote:
<quoted text>
What level was studied- a state? the US? Just wondering...
I mostly want this case done for the families so that they aren't subjected to teh details at appeal after appeal.
Oh, sorry I didn't cite the source or give you more info! I was sorta in a rush to get outta work.

Those figures are based on the state of California only.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Chicago Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 6 min RealDave 1,153,064
Obama pardons 2 Illinoisans, including former M... 27 min Le Duped 2
Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas decl... (Jan '09) 1 hr Yumpin Yimminy 68,876
Some Valid Points 2 hr Rest of the story 1
How to make a woman squirtting 2 hr GuGu 1
BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 3 hr Guru 181,710
im single black hndsome 3 hr ligolyser 1
Chicago Dating
Find my Match
More from around the web

Chicago People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Chicago News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Chicago

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]

NFL Latest News

Updated 5:07 pm PST

Bleacher Report 5:07PM
Lions vs. Bears: Breaking Down Detroit's Game Plan
Bleacher Report 5:55 PM
Indianapolis Colts vs. Dallas Cowboys Betting Odds, Analysis, NFL Pick
NBC Sports 6:29 PM
Reports: Bears benching Cutler - NBC Sports
Bleacher Report 7:26 PM
Trestman May Never Get 2nd Shot After Bears Meltdown
Bleacher Report 7:27 PM
What Are Experts Saying About Detroit?