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“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#81102 Feb 25, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
Totally not trying to steer the conversation away from religion but...quick poll:
Those of you that went away to college and stayed in a dorm, how often did you come home?
J and I had a blowout last night after SIL and her fiance left--SIL has been home at least once a month since she left for school. Since November, she's had her fiance with her every time, which means there's somebody sleeping in my living room every morning. I'm tired of houseguests. J doesn't see how it's an inconvenience. They come home Friday evening--about an hour after I get home from work and leave right as I'm about to go to bed Sunday night. That's my entire weekend.
Blowup occurred after SIL saw an invite we got for a first birthday party for a friend's kid in three weeks. SIL's all "Oh, I'll have to come back for that!" J's all "Yeah!"
Granted, they go out and do stuff when they're here, and I have my own social life, but fuuuuuuck. I don't want this go on for the next 3.5 years. I'm TIRED, y'all. Am I being unreasonable?
They should be invited, not inviting themselves. You have certainly done more than your share for SIL. Why is J so willing to have her and the fiance around so often? I would have no problem planning a ladies night/weekend for the next time they are going to come visit, and if J enjoys having them around all weekend that much, he can have them all to himself.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#81103 Feb 25, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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I'm fully on Team Matilda. Granted, I have an higher-than-normal aversion to houseguests, but even accounting for that, I think coming home from college that often is... well, too often. She should be focusing on making a life for herself there. And to bring another person along every time is asking too much of you and J (theoretically... I guess in reality, it's just you since he's cool - but I'll bet it would get old to him too after awhile).
I don't think he'd ever get sick of it. It's just his personality.

I should also add that we believe they're isolating themselves at school, too. I think he gets along with his roommates okay, but she is odd woman out on her floor (shocker, I know). Everyone else, according to them, is "stupid". They're doing well academically, because they study together all the time, but I don't think they're doing any activities that would make them any new friends. Neither have jobs.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#81104 Feb 25, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Random vent: I'm never waiting until 3 weeks out from a trip to book a flight again. It's a work trip so the insane price isn't coming out of my pocket, but I'm stuck with middle seats. To Vegas, so 4 separate flights and not a short amount of travel time.
4 separate flights each way or two each way?

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#81105 Feb 25, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
I should add that we had at least 1 meal with them all three days, which was mostly fine. Like--eating around a table, quality time shiz. We did the Polar Plunge thing with them, which they were ill prepared for, prep wise--we had to help them decide what to bring, Fiance forgot a swimsuit so J let him borrow one (gross). My SIL was being a over-dramatic priss most of the weekend, and there was all the drama around Fiance losing his glasses.
So, me, every chance I get, I'm retreating to our bedroom, which J had a problem with. It was either that or drink.
The whole point of her going AWAY to college was for her to grow the hell up. Kids go away and then come home at Thanksgiving and/or Christmas (winter break) and in the summer. Most kids go elsewhere for spring break. You are right here. He is enabling her to remain dependent.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#81106 Feb 25, 2013
No, you are bashing and wrapping it in a nice little bow.
You think people who have faith are lemmings, you try to say that since they have not sampled all the religions, they are just mindless drones. And you say this only because you feel superior to them and you want to mock them and their faith.

Your contempt for them is so apparent, and you are kidding only yourself in thinking yourself clever.

Or perhaps you would like to tell me how much respect you have for people who have found a faith, no matter how they found it.
Bet you wont!
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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considered, and a selection was made based on certain criteria. Most people don't choose, they adopt. Your parents are Christian, you're Christian. You parents are Hindu, you're Hindu. That's not bashing, that's just acknowledging reality.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#81107 Feb 25, 2013
I believe I made sure to clarify I was not speaking about people such as yourself.
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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::raises hand::
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Not true for me.
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Agreed.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#81108 Feb 25, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
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4 separate flights each way or two each way?
Two each way. A friend of mine just told me to start checking with the airlines (there are two involved) about a week in advance. He said they'll start bumping platinum people, etc. to first class and that should free up some aisle or window seats. Fingers crossed!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#81109 Feb 25, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
Totally not trying to steer the conversation away from religion but...quick poll:
Those of you that went away to college and stayed in a dorm, how often did you come home?
J and I had a blowout last night after SIL and her fiance left--SIL has been home at least once a month since she left for school. Since November, she's had her fiance with her every time, which means there's somebody sleeping in my living room every morning. I'm tired of houseguests. J doesn't see how it's an inconvenience. They come home Friday evening--about an hour after I get home from work and leave right as I'm about to go to bed Sunday night. That's my entire weekend.
Blowup occurred after SIL saw an invite we got for a first birthday party for a friend's kid in three weeks. SIL's all "Oh, I'll have to come back for that!" J's all "Yeah!"
Granted, they go out and do stuff when they're here, and I have my own social life, but fuuuuuuck. I don't want this go on for the next 3.5 years. I'm TIRED, y'all. Am I being unreasonable?
No. You are not unreasonable. What it is -- you're probably an introvert and need your time and he's an extrovert and loves to have people all around him.

He doesn't understand you is all.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#81110 Feb 25, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
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I don't think he'd ever get sick of it. It's just his personality.
I should also add that we believe they're isolating themselves at school, too. I think he gets along with his roommates okay, but she is odd woman out on her floor (shocker, I know). Everyone else, according to them, is "stupid". They're doing well academically, because they study together all the time, but I don't think they're doing any activities that would make them any new friends. Neither have jobs.
Her lesson to learn, Matilda. Sit down and tell J that you need your house to yourself (meaning you and him). Explain how it makes you feel.

If it is any way like me, I feel like I do not have privacy, I cannot do what I want to do b/c I have guests. It takes up extra time AND money.

Maybe tell him you don't live in a group home b/c that's not your style and it's starting to wear on you.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

United States

#81111 Feb 25, 2013
I think you should chillax, Mattie. Coming home for a weekend once a month shouldn't drain you emotionally. I would come home once or twice every month. I was only three and a half hours away and I had friends back home anyway.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#81112 Feb 25, 2013
Toj wrote:
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No. You are not unreasonable. What it is -- you're probably an introvert and need your time and he's an extrovert and loves to have people all around him.
He doesn't understand you is all.
That's very much what it is.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#81113 Feb 25, 2013
RACE wrote:
Why?
Why cant I tell an atheist that they cant NOT believe until they have studied all religions and then reject them all. How many atheists even know what a church or religion is all about? They only see the surface. Of course I am talking about the atheists who were never members of a church, not the ones who left theirs.
And why must a person research different religions? If you experience one, and it "Feels" right then why bother? Why should picking a religion be equated with buying a car?
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MOst atheists most likely grew up with religion, then rejected religion later in their life, rather than were raised as atheists.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#81114 Feb 25, 2013
Toj wrote:
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Her lesson to learn, Matilda. Sit down and tell J that you need your house to yourself (meaning you and him). Explain how it makes you feel.
If it is any way like me, I feel like I do not have privacy, I cannot do what I want to do b/c I have guests. It takes up extra time AND money.
Maybe tell him you don't live in a group home b/c that's not your style and it's starting to wear on you.
Oh, I do like that last line especially.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#81115 Feb 25, 2013
I don't need to shop around for different religions to know i"m a nonbeliever. Idon't believe in a deity. finding a different religion with different rules and beliefs isn't going to change that. I was fine with Buddhism (ressearch it, etc.) until I found out they have mysticism in their religion as well. Done with that.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#81116 Feb 25, 2013
RACE wrote:
No, you are bashing and wrapping it in a nice little bow.
You think people who have faith are lemmings, you try to say that since they have not sampled all the religions, they are just mindless drones. And you say this only because you feel superior to them and you want to mock them and their faith.
Your contempt for them is so apparent, and you are kidding only yourself in thinking yourself clever.
Or perhaps you would like to tell me how much respect you have for people who have found a faith, no matter how they found it.
Bet you wont!
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I'm with Sam on this one. I don't read where she's bashing. Maybe it's hitting too close to home where you're questioning yourself that you jumped on board with how you were raised.

I'll clearly state I am/was Catholic b/c that's what my parents were and how they raised me. I question the faith thing all the time and even go back and forth about the god thing.

When my mother grew up they were taught to never question b/c then you will go to hells-bells b/c you're not a true believer. She was taught that the priest was an extension of god.(Kind of puts in perspective for me how pedophile priests got away with it so long.)

There's room for people to believe, not believe or be in between. To make an observation about something doesn't mean someone is saying YOUR actions were that.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#81117 Feb 25, 2013
Going home once a month is too often. Twice a month? Why even go away to college then?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#81118 Feb 25, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Random vent: I'm never waiting until 3 weeks out from a trip to book a flight again. It's a work trip so the insane price isn't coming out of my pocket, but I'm stuck with middle seats. To Vegas, so 4 separate flights and not a short amount of travel time.
Get your butt to the gate early when you flying and arrange to have your seat changed. It would help if you had status, but maybe you'll get a sympathetic person to help you out.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Knoxville, TN

#81119 Feb 25, 2013
RACE wrote:
No, you are bashing and wrapping it in a nice little bow.
You think people who have faith are lemmings, you try to say that since they have not sampled all the religions, they are just mindless drones. And you say this only because you feel superior to them and you want to mock them and their faith.
Your contempt for them is so apparent, and you are kidding only yourself in thinking yourself clever.
Or perhaps you would like to tell me how much respect you have for people who have found a faith, no matter how they found it.
Bet you wont!
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Once again, you villanize me to generate something else to argue against since you can't argue the point. And you're projecting. Once again your disdain for me personally precludes you from staying on point.

The point is not my regard or lack thereof for religion or religious people. The point is that most people of faith don't choose their religion, they adopt it. You made the statement about "hey if the first thing I experience works for me then what's wrong with that?" My response was and continues to be that that is not choosing. That is simply accepting what is laid out for you by someone else. That is the point. Contest that. We all know you want me to die in some horribile, painful manner. Quit beating that drum and actually address the substance of a position and not just your disdain for that position.

I don't have anything against people of faith, provided they have made a choice and have not simply accepted whatever was handed down to them. Taking whatever your parents handed you and running with it because it's what you know is not a choice. Address that point. Bet you won't!

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#81120 Feb 25, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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Two each way. A friend of mine just told me to start checking with the airlines (there are two involved) about a week in advance. He said they'll start bumping platinum people, etc. to first class and that should free up some aisle or window seats. Fingers crossed!
That's a long way to be stuck in the middle.

My friend R and I are flying to Dallas on Thursday for a girl's weekend (of course, a weekend that my SIL is *not* coming home...) and we get to fly right from here (Bloomington) to Dallas, nonstop, and the plane is one of those one seat on one side of the aisle and two on the other. Nothing but window and aisle seats, yeah!

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#81121 Feb 25, 2013
RACE wrote:
I believe I made sure to clarify I was not speaking about people such as yourself.
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I know. I read it. It's Monday. I'm bored. Trolling...

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